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[Maximus]

No I mean the state of Israel and the state of Palestine cutting across each other.

If you look at the 1947 partition plan each state is somewhat disconnected from other parts of the state.

[Paphitis]

No I mean the state of Israel and the state of Palestine cutting across each other.

If you look at the 1947 partition plan each state is somewhat disconnected from other parts of the state.

West bank wasn't disconnected to Jordan.

[Maximus]

No I mean the state of Israel and the state of Palestine cutting across each other.

If you look at the 1947 partition plan each state is somewhat disconnected from other parts of the state.

West bank wasn't disconnected to Jordan.

What has Jordan got to do with this?

Parts of Israel were disconnected from other parts of Israel and parts of the Palestinian state where disconnected from other parts of the Palestinian state.

[Robin Hood]

Maximus:

it sounds reasonable but then there will be those against a global government and order.

If all the States on the Planet had equal voting rights in the UNGA ..... if you like,1 State, 1 vote, then by setting the % required to carry the motion according to the seriousness of the situation, it would be carried (or not) by an agreed majority.

Then what if any of those major powers disagree with the votes of the general assembly?

IMO: I would say ‘TOUGH’, we work on an agreed voting majority and the UNGA has spoken for all member countries of the UN. No single State would have the power to use a veto to overturn the will of the majority. That objecting State could raise their own motion for a vote that changes the content but it could not overturn the UNGA result, but again the agreed majority vote would decide to accept the modification/addition or not.

How would you feel if you went to Court to face the decision of a Jury and out of the twelve 11 voted to find you not guilty ..... but one had the power of veto to overturn the majority decision and thought otherwise? It would certainly not be democratic. Although it happens when the Judge directs the Jury that it must be a unanimous result one way or the other. If one disagrees with the majority, then it goes for retrial.

[Paphitis]

No I mean the state of Israel and the state of Palestine cutting across each other.

If you look at the 1947 partition plan each state is somewhat disconnected from other parts of the state.

West bank wasn't disconnected to Jordan.

What has Jordan got to do with this?

Parts of Israel were disconnected from other parts of Israel and parts of the Palestinian state where disconnected from other parts of the Palestinian state.

The Palestinians are connected to the rest of the Middle east , whilst the Israeli's are pretty much on their own.

[Paphitis]

Maximus:

it sounds reasonable but then there will be those against a global government and order.

If all the States on the Planet had equal voting rights in the UNGA ..... if you like,1 State, 1 vote, then by setting the % required to carry the motion according to the seriousness of the situation, it would be carried (or not) by an agreed majority.

Then what if any of those major powers disagree with the votes of the general assembly?

IMO: I would say ‘TOUGH’, we work on an agreed voting majority and the UNGA has spoken for all member countries of the UN. No single State would have the power to use a veto to overturn the will of the majority. That objecting State could raise their own motion for a vote that changes the content but it could not overturn the UNGA result, but again the agreed majority vote would decide to accept the modification/addition or not.

How would you feel if you went to Court to face the decision of a Jury and out of the twelve 11 voted to find you not guilty ..... but one had the power of veto to overturn the majority decision and thought otherwise? It would certainly not be democratic. Although it happens when the Judge directs the Jury that it must be a unanimous result one way or the other. If one disagrees with the majority, then it goes for retrial.

Then we would have a brothel and not a UNGA.

The answer then is to withdraw and let the UN sink into oblivion and even more irrelevance!

What makes you think that some states deserve the same say?

When we have a resolution to Ukraine.

[Maximus]

No I mean the state of Israel and the state of Palestine cutting across each other.

If you look at the 1947 partition plan each state is somewhat disconnected from other parts of the state.

West bank wasn't disconnected to Jordan.

What has Jordan got to do with this?

Parts of Israel were disconnected from other parts of Israel and parts of the Palestinian state where disconnected from other parts of the Palestinian state.

The Palestinians are connected to the rest of the Middle east , whilst the Israeli's are pretty much on their own.

You just don’t get it.

Image China splitting Australia in two parts, east and west and establishing a separate state that cuts right across the middle. I suppose, according to you, it would not be a problem because the east and western parts of Australia would be connected to the rest of the world by the sea.

[Paphitis]

No I mean the state of Israel and the state of Palestine cutting across each other.

If you look at the 1947 partition plan each state is somewhat disconnected from other parts of the state.

West bank wasn't disconnected to Jordan.

What has Jordan got to do with this?

Parts of Israel were disconnected from other parts of Israel and parts of the Palestinian state where disconnected from other parts of the Palestinian state.

The Palestinians are connected to the rest of the Middle east , whilst the Israeli's are pretty much on their own.

You just don’t get it.

Image China splitting Australia in two parts, east and west and establishing a separate state that cuts right across the middle. I suppose, according to you, it would not be a problem because the east and western parts of Australia would be connected to the rest of the world by the sea.

I get it.

The Palestinians have a contiguous zone with Jordan, and also Egypt.

The Israelis closest ally in the region is Cyprus. They are surrounded and now have Hezbollah on their border too.

You can argue this as well.

[Maximus]

The point I am trying to make is that when one state cuts across and disconnects another, it would be a source of conflict.

Jordan and Egypt are separate states.

What are you arguing about? What is the point you are trying to make?

[Paphitis]

The point I am trying to make is that when one state cuts across and disconnects another, it would be a source of conflict.

Jordan and Egypt are separate states.

It;\'s got to do with land ownership and Israeli Settlement.

Point I am making is that Israel can feel just as much isolated and surrounded by hostile neighbors although things have improved with Egypt quite clearly.