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[Sotos]

PRESIDENT Tassos Papadopoulos said yesterday that during his working visit to Russia he would seek to confirm the good bilateral relations and develop them further.

Speaking before his departure for Moscow, Papadopoulos said that there would be a briefing on the question of Cyprus and discussion on the issue, and expressed the hope that Nicosia and Moscow would reaffirm the “steady and unwavering position of Russia in achieving a just and viable solution to the Cyprus problem”.

He said that in any new effort to solve the problem, all five permanent members of the UN Security Council must have a more active role, unlike what has happened in the latest UN-led attempt when only two members were actively involved.

The President described his visit as “very important”, noting it will help further strengthen and develop relations between the two countries.

He talked about the traditionally good bilateral relations and “the firm support which Russia gives Cyprus in all forums”.

Asked if he would ask Russian President Vladimir Putin to undertake an initiative on Cyprus, President Papadopoulos said the government’s position is that “the Cyprus problem is under the UN auspices and instructions for the UN Secretary-General’s efforts are given only by the Security Council”.

Russia, he added, “is a permanent member of the Security Council and in all discussions so far we have found firm support”. “In every new effort we want all members of the Security Council to be involved and have a more active role'', adding that he does not want a repetition of what has happened during the latest effort, when there was selective engagement by the Security Council and only two permanent members were involved.

Is Russia our good ally? Traditionally they supported us. But they also have a lot of trade with Turkey, pipelines from Turkey etc.

[Piratis]

Russia is a good ally. They do have an economic relationship with Turkey, but they know that the Turks can never be reliable partners since they could stab them in the back at any time if it suits them.

[bg_turk]

Russia is a good ally for Piratis, becaue that state blindly supports the policies of their greek orthodox brothers, it is a good ally because of the incredible laundaring opportunities that cyprus provides for the russian mafia.

For Piratis any state that supports his political views, regardless of its horrendous human rights record, would be a good ally. Serbia and Russia are the best allies of the Greeks, they all have a great record of being muslim haters.

[Piratis]

A Turk like you should be the last one complaining about human rights violations in other countries. Turkey has one of the worst human rights records in the whole world.

We are not "Muslim haters" at all. We have very good relationship with many Muslim countries, in many cases better relationship than Turkey has with them. Turkey has alliance with Israel and the Americans who are the true Muslim haters.

[bg_turk]

A Turk like you should be the last one complaining about human rights violations in other countries. Turkey has one of the worst human rights records in the whole world.

It is a Greek like you who should be the last complaining about human rights violations. Greece violates the human rights of slavcs and turks on a daily basis, denies them the right to call themselves as they wish, does everything possible to block mother tongue educatoin, Greece has illegally disenfrenchised turks from their homeland, land no which they have lived for hundreds of years, Greece has consistently supported the Serbian policies of ethnic cleansing of Bosnian muslims, Kosovo Alabanians and was the ONLY European country which backed the name changing campaign in Bulgaria. Greece, the cradle of democracy, the all worhty EU member, backed a regime which denied me the right to choose my name and to speak my own language!
While you as a Greek would blindly back any greek policies, find justification to our human rights violations, I as a Turk at least have the decency to support your right to return to your home and your human rights.

We are not "Muslim haters" at all. We have very good relationship with many Muslim countries, in many cases better relationship than Turkey has with them. Turkey has alliance with Israel and the Americans who are the true Muslim haters.

You like muslims only when they are far away. In my eyes and the rest of the muslims in the Balkans Greece has a proven anti-muslim record. America on the other hand has always been a friend of the muslims in the Balkans as shown through its Kosovo campaign.

[Piratis]

It is a Greek like you who should be the last complaining about human rights violations.

This is why you people will never become civilized. It is a fact that Turkey has one of the worst human rights records in the world yet you are trying to find excuses in order not to improve yourselves. And then when EU tells you that you have to become more civilized in order to be accepted you get pissed off.

You like muslims only when they are far away. In my eyes and the rest of the muslims in the Balkans Greece has a proven anti-muslim record. America on the other hand has always been a friend of the muslims in the Balkans as shown through its Kosovo campaign.

Americans the Muslim lovers? OK bg_turk, whatever you say

[bg_turk]

It is a Greek like you who should be the last complaining about human rights violations.

This is why you people will never become civilized. It is a fact that Turkey has one of the worst human rights records in the world yet you are trying to find excuses in order not to improve yourselves. And then when EU tells you that you have to become more civilized in order to be accepted you get pissed off.

Have you not realized that you will not be able to hide the ugly face of your motherland, Greece, behind the human rights violation of Turkey. It will be exposed!

[Piratis]

Greece is not perfect. It is an average EU democratic country and it can improve.

On the other hand, Turkey has one of the worst human rights in the world and it doesn't improve either. Her jails are full with political prisoners, whole Kurdish villages have been bombed and distracted, and it illegally occupies part of the sovereign Republic of Cyprus.

[bg_turk]

Turkey is on a steady course towards improving her human rights record, and has made enormous steps in this direction, and will continue to make them. What Turkey will not allow to happen is for some people whose obsession with human rights is not because they genuinely care about the well being of the citizens of the Turkish Republic, but abuse the issue to extract political concessions.

[Piratis]

Turkey is on a steady course towards improving her human rights record, and has made enormous steps in this direction

Enormous steps like what? According to the reports steps have been made only on paper but in practice very little has changed.

They have to be forced to make any changes and still those changes are only on paper. If their EU accession process ends, they will even revoke the changes the made on paper.