Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis:
More information about JORN that basically explains how it works. See! Bounces from the ionosphere.
Blah, blah, blah ..... all very impressive ...... but it is all based on the basic laws of physics, not a spectacular discovery by your hero's!
Just as I explained! Look at the footprint ..... area alert only ......direct line-of-sight RADAR needed to locate a specific target within the RADAR foot print. It does not identify a fishing boat ..... it sees an '
anomaly' within a fairly large area, an anomaly that could be anywhere in the footprint, for reasons (
other natural phenomena) I have already explained to you!
Robin Hood, I am telling you from experience having seen and been exposed to Jorn for hundreds of hours and even being involved in some way by testing it.
Secondly, it isn't the same thing as a conventional radar. I am no expert and really don't know how it works but JORN and Primary Radar are 2 different things even though they call JORN a radar it is not entirely a correct description.
They are using some different type of wavelength, probably similar to shortwave (although I am not sure) which does bounce off the ionosphere in a similar fashion as Shortwave radio waves do.
Hence they get a phenomenal range and detect objects right down to the earth's surface and behind terrain.
We were unable to not be detected from it even at altitudes of 100FT thousands of kilometers away and closer to Jakarta than Australia.
It isn't the only method used either. We have Wedgetails, and Dash 8 airborne radar platforms (with Raytheon Systems Primary radar) which interoperate with JORN, as well as Surface Naval Ships, Drones for surveillance and identification, plus P8 Poseidon aircraft. Also some Satellites. Even the Dash 8 platforms can detect surface targets from an elevated height and because of that had massive range but could not see blow the horizon due to the earth's curvature or behind terrain but JORN could.
The infrastructure is very impressive. JORN "radar" and Primary radar such as the one on S400 and also like the Primary radar installations Australia also uses are not the same thing. JORN can actually pick up drug smugglers, gun runners, illegal fishing vessels, illegal immigrants with a phenomenal success rate. Australian Agencies boast that they can see everything. I believe that is the case as well. It's too multilayered and even if there are weaknesses all the other platforms fill in the gaps.
They have tried testing it with F-35 and F-22 and even these stealth aircraft are getting picked up at very low altitudes.
The links I provided you are official Government links with information the Australian Government has released. I am sure they are not being completely honest, because the actual building in Adelaide is one of the most secure buildings in Australia aside from the facilities they have at Harold E Holt, and Pine Gap.
Around harold E Holt, there have been a number of incidents with Commercial Aviation as well.
Now, the official sources I gave you from the Australian Government have indicated that JORN can detect waves on the ocean which is phenomenal as far as I am concerned. Why would they say this.
The DASH 8s are highly secretive too, but not like the Poseidons, or Wedgetails. Certainly not like JORN either although you can get a lot more information about JORN than you can about Harold E Holt and Pine Gap.
When you go to Alice Springs you ask people what they do and there seems to be a very high proportion of Cooks and Gardeners there. Truth is, they work for ASIO, Defence Sygnals, CIA or NSA. A lot of the Cooks and gardeners had American accents too, so these American "Cooks" and "Gardeners" moved to the middle of Australia for work.
Pine Gap is also connected to the British SBA Agios Nikolaos in Cyprus as well as other facilities in North America, Europe, and Asia.
Australia today probably has one of the most advanced surveillance networks on the planet and they are determined to prevent every illegal activity from drug running to immigration.
there are people who have been in detention centres for almost 10 years. i think the last remaining ones are about to be deported and the detention facilities will be closed in due cause because the detection rate is 100% and the prosecuting laws draconian. So Asylum seekers have finally given up and will be taken to Canada and the USA instead whilst others are deported to their country of origin.
Our biggest weakness for drug importation and drugs are believe it or not, airports, and ports. Running the gauntlet from Asia to Australia in a boat or aircraft is virtually impossible.
there is a zero tolerance. Australia's resolve on this matter is unmistakable.
We have always been suspicious and scared of our Northern Neighbors like Indonesia. We have had a war with them too not that long ago which I am sure they haven't forgotten. It's our Mexico but our saving grace is we do not share a border but Australia remains vigilant and some say paranoid hence its very close alliance with the USA and the investment of Billions up Billions on cutting edge technologies.