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[Paphitis]

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/s1102/text

Arms embargo lifted
Financial military financing for Greece and Cyprus
Greece, Israel Cyprus US alliance formalized
Sanctions on turkey

It’s a Xmas list. Feels like something shifted in the region.

Very good news.

Get on the Trump band wagon.

I’m really sorry but I’m calling it right now. Trump is the best leader we have had since post WW2.

[Kikapu]

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/s1102/text

Arms embargo lifted
Financial military financing for Greece and Cyprus
Greece, Israel Cyprus US alliance formalized
Sanctions on turkey

It’s a Xmas list. Feels like something shifted in the region.

Very good news.
..
Get on the Trump band wagon.

I’m really sorry but I’m calling it right now. Trump is the best leader we have had since post WW2.

As far as Cyprus is concerned, I agree with you, that so far Trump has played a positive roll. Maybe because Turkey has fucked up so much in their desire to believe they are a super power in challenging the USA almost on everything, going as far as threatening they will give the USA an “Ottoman slap” should the US stand in their way in taking Manbij. Let’s hope Turkey continues their FU with the USA for a long time to come. The other thing that gets the Americans attention is the hydrocarbons, especially when it benefits their American oil companies and their allies. Don’t fuck with the USA when it comes to hydrocarbons as Turkey is finding out with this bill passing the senate.

[Paphitis]

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/s1102/text

Arms embargo lifted
Financial military financing for Greece and Cyprus
Greece, Israel Cyprus US alliance formalized
Sanctions on turkey

It’s a Xmas list. Feels like something shifted in the region.

Very good news.
..
Get on the Trump band wagon.

I’m really sorry but I’m calling it right now. Trump is the best leader we have had since post WW2.

As far as Cyprus is concerned, I agree with you, that so far Trump has played a positive roll. Maybe because Turkey has fucked up so much in their desire to believe they are a super power in challenging the USA almost on everything, going as far as threatening they will give the USA an “Ottoman slap” should the US stand in their way in taking Manbij. Let’s hope Turkey continues their FU with the USA for a long time to come. The other thing that gets the Americans attention is the hydrocarbons, especially when it benefits their American oil companies and their allies. Don’t fuck with the USA when it comes to hydrocarbons as Turkey is finding out with this bill passing the senate.

Not just with regard to Cyprus.

I am literally struggling to find anything Trump has done wrong. He is ticking all the right boxes for me Kikapu.

Not only is he doing a great job, but I think he is probably deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize hands down.

The only gripe I have with trump is that he repealed Obamacare. I know he promised to do that and maybe he wanted to tear it down because Obama bought it in and maybe it was too expensive, but the US should be striving for universal health care at some point. This is the biggest downfall of the US.

It is rich enough and a good health system accessible to all Americans is something the US should strive for. The US establishment should be embarrassed that they don't have this.

If they fucking come over to Australia and look at the Medicare model and take a few pointers back home, then the US is set.

Trump has delivered a great deal to the US other than that. He is obviously bringing in the X factor. At this point, I am finding his administration to be a huge success.

[Maximus]

Apparently, it is now down,

The amendment passed by the Senate uses identical language to the East-Med Act bill that was approved by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday, requiring Cyprus to continue reforms on anti-money laundering regulations and continue efforts to deny access to its ports to Russian military vessels. But it allows the President of the United Stated to waive this requirement for one economic year, if it’s to the interest of the United States to do so.

[Kikapu]

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/s1102/text

Arms embargo lifted
Financial military financing for Greece and Cyprus
Greece, Israel Cyprus US alliance formalized
Sanctions on turkey

It’s a Xmas list. Feels like something shifted in the region.

Very good news.
..
Get on the Trump band wagon.

I’m really sorry but I’m calling it right now. Trump is the best leader we have had since post WW2.

As far as Cyprus is concerned, I agree with you, that so far Trump has played a positive roll. Maybe because Turkey has fucked up so much in their desire to believe they are a super power in challenging the USA almost on everything, going as far as threatening they will give the USA an “Ottoman slap” should the US stand in their way in taking Manbij. Let’s hope Turkey continues their FU with the USA for a long time to come. The other thing that gets the Americans attention is the hydrocarbons, especially when it benefits their American oil companies and their allies. Don’t fuck with the USA when it comes to hydrocarbons as Turkey is finding out with this bill passing the senate.

Not just with regard to Cyprus.

I am literally struggling to find anything Trump has done wrong. He is ticking all the right boxes for me Kikapu.

Not only is he doing a great job, but I think he is probably deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize hands down.

The only gripe I have with trump is that he repealed Obamacare. I know he promised to do that and maybe he wanted to tear it down because Obama bought it in and maybe it was too expensive, but the US should be striving for universal health care at some point. This is the biggest downfall of the US.

It is rich enough and a good health system accessible to all Americans is something the US should strive for. The US establishment should be embarrassed that they don't have this.

If they fucking come over to Australia and look at the Medicare model and take a few pointers back home, then the US is set.

Trump has delivered a great deal to the US other than that. He is obviously bringing in the X factor. At this point, I am finding his administration to be a huge success.

Look, I was against Trump in the beginning for being too dumb to be a President and was shocked when he won. I was actually in Sydney at the time watching the election results coming in and as he passed the 270 electorate vote count, I had to leave my hotel room in the rain to get some air, but since then, he has surprised me also in some of his policies in a positive way.

I don't think there ever be a Universal Health Care system in the USA, and it is not because the country can't afford it, it has all to do with the Capitalist mentality, primarily by the Republicans. They want to keep taxes as low as possible, unlike high taxes in most European cities, Canada and Australia which does have UHC. Large majority of Americans and their families get their group health care as their job benefit from their employer, which the employer pays most of the cost and the employee pays the rest. 15 years ago, it was 80-20 ratio. It may have changed some now, so most Americans do have Health Insurance. The problem arises when someone does not have a job, then they are not covered unless they pay for the whole cost themselves, which isn't affordable at that point. However, it does not mean they are refused medical coverage for emergencies since they can go to any General City hospital to be seen. The problem is, you can wait there for hours. Serious health problems without Health Insurance can send people into huge debts. The US government does not want to play a "nanny" role and want people to be responsible for their own needs. On the one hand one can agree with this, and on the other hand, one cannot since not everyone has the same financial living standards.

In Switzerland, we too do not have Universal Health Care, but every single person who is legally in Switzerland has (MUST have) a basic private Health Insurance paid by themselves. Average cost is about CHF 4,000 Swiss Francs per person per year, but in return, the income taxes are very low in comparison to countries where they do have UHC. Income tax is about 10% (not including the social benefit deductions) for someone earning CHF100,000 Swiss Francs a year, which is about the average income for someone working full time. It is a private Insurance with Universal coverage should it be needed when traveling abroad and you get the very best health care service with that. I must say, I do very much like the system here as you can choose which services and from which company you want your Health Care needs. This does not cover dentist or injuries, just illness. Accident injuries usually have a separate coverage provided by the employer, or you must buy it separately if not working, but it is not so expensive.

I really never looked into the Obamacare how it functioned so I really do not know if it was good or not. I do know that there were still millions of people who were without health insurance because they couldn't afford to pay for it if they were not employed. Also after age 65, one is eligible for Government Health Care if they have worked at least 40 quarters in their lives in the US called "Medicare". One also need to have worked 40 quarters to be eligible for government pension also.

[Jerry]

Will Erdo now throw his toys out of his pram, will he kick the Americans out of Incirlik? The little creep was standing next to Trump in one of the photo calls, Trump appeared to ignore him.

[Lordo]

Will Erdo now throw his toys out of his pram, will he kick the Americans out of Incirlik? The little creep was standing next to Trump in one of the photo calls, Trump appeared to ignore him.

lets face it trump is shitting brick he is buying russian weapons. if they stop selling him f35 perhaps he buy some russian planes. they can shove their arms up their big ass

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2019/04/19/russia-would-be-turkeys-first-best-choice-for-fighter-jets-if-its-f-35-plan-flops/

[Kikapu]

Will Erdo now throw his toys out of his pram, will he kick the Americans out of Incirlik? The little creep was standing next to Trump in one of the photo calls, Trump appeared to ignore him.

lets face it trump is shitting brick he is buying russian weapons. if they stop selling him f35 perhaps he buy some russian planes. they can shove their arms up their big ass

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2019/04/19/russia-would-be-turkeys-first-best-choice-for-fighter-jets-if-its-f-35-plan-flops/

Let Turkey buy the Russian planes. USA is not going to risk their $400 Billion F-35 program to untrustworthy Turkey just because they had invested $1.2 Billion into the program. I'm sure they have recovered that money and more by manufacturing parts for the F-35 before it was taken away from Turkey. This is all going to plan to get Turkey to leave the NATO so that it loses it's "All for one and one for all" guarantees. After that, Turkey will be at the mercy of the west from being partitioned. So far the plan has gone well to get Turkey out of the F-35 program, BIG thanks to Erdogan.

As for the toy plane model Turkey brought to the Paris Air show which is meant to be a 5th generation fighter jet, but now it only operates with an elastic band to launch it into the air, Britain’s BAE Systems is not coming through with the engines for it, because Turks want to have the property rights to such designs, so at the moment, the Turks do not have anything for the so called 5th generation fighter jet, but the at least the model was 100% home produced.....maybe!

[Maximus]

Will Erdo now throw his toys out of his pram, will he kick the Americans out of Incirlik? The little creep was standing next to Trump in one of the photo calls, Trump appeared to ignore him.

lets face it trump is shitting brick he is buying russian weapons. if they stop selling him f35 perhaps he buy some russian planes. they can shove their arms up their big ass

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2019/04/19/russia-would-be-turkeys-first-best-choice-for-fighter-jets-if-its-f-35-plan-flops/

Why would he be shitting bricks? He could give the order for sanctions, and Turkey will crumble.

It doesn't make sense to be in NATO but buying Russian or Chinese weapons or co-producing their weapons. Like Erdogan wants to.

It just doesn't make sense.

[Paphitis]

Apparently, it is now down,

The amendment passed by the Senate uses identical language to the East-Med Act bill that was approved by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday, requiring Cyprus to continue reforms on anti-money laundering regulations and continue efforts to deny access to its ports to Russian military vessels. But it allows the President of the United Stated to waive this requirement for one economic year, if it’s to the interest of the United States to do so.

The requirement for denying ccess to Russian military ships is a good one.

I think we should do whatever we can to comply with this for a number of reasons.

Firstly, Greece is a NATO country. Also, Russia has a number of other options and should respect the fact that our geopolitical interests are at stake here (of course they will not because they do not care).

Russia is also becoming increasingly provocative. Recently, one of their Naval Frigates nearly rammed a US Warship in the open seas. the American Ship was conducting evasive turns to get away from the Russian Frigate in order to maintain a safe distance between them but the Russian Ship kept following. We can clearly see who is being provocative. The US warship appeared to be uninterested in the Russian Ship and just wanted to get away and maintain a safe distance, whilst the Russian Ship kept breaking all safety protocols and kept harassing the US warship.

Russian warships can use their own ports own Syria.

Cyprus now has an alliance with Israel, Egypt and Greece. As such, we need to understand the fact that US Military assets will be in Cyprus more and more, and that the US will also lift the arms embargo. Letting Russian Ships into Cyprus sends mixed signals to both the US, and Israel.

No offense to the Russians, but I think its time to move on. Of course it would not be sensible for Cyprus not to maintain a useful relationship with Russia. Cyprus can still do that and it should because Russia is on the security council. If Czar Pootin respects Cyprus (he doesn't), then he will understand what is at stake.

Turkey is drilling in the Cyprus EEZ.Russia is forming an alliance with Turkey and supporting Turkey. They are becoming close allies. The Americans and Israelis are prepared to assist Cyprus on this issue because it's in their interests to do so.

In addition, many countries don't let Russian Warships to use their ports.

I think the time is right for Anastasiades to meet Trump for high level meetings.