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[miltiades]

Pahitis wrote:
If Boris keeps this up, he is the next Winston and will be PM for 10 years"
I shall make sure I remind you of this very very soon.
He, The Clown , will not see this year out as the PM.

[Paphitis]

Said the idiot who thinks begging for a deal with the EU is sensible. Or is it a tactic to scupper the will of the people?

Already Boris has destroyed you all in the brains department and sent a stern message

[Kikapu]

Boris Johnson has finally added some logical thinking and is acting from a position of strength.

Past policy and actions from the traitorous Teresa May and British Parliament have placed Britain in an awkward position of weakness by ruling out no deal BREXIT.

Today, Boris Johnson said that Britain will ‘turbocharge’ towards a no deal BREXIT and invited the EU to the negotiating table.

Even if the EU do not, Britain is now talking the talk and walking the walk and the EU need to be a bit more considerate or face some consequences as well. It’s a double edged sword here if the motivator is capitalism and money.

Bravo Boris. Bravo!

If Boris keeps this up, he is the next Winston and will be PM for 10 years.

The EU said they will look at any new proposal BJ will offer. The EU also said they will not re negotiate the deal they have struck with May. So far the EU has maintained their position 100% since the agreement, so the ball is in BJ‘s court, especially when the British parliament does not support a no deal Brexit. BJ can declare anything all he wants in his first speech as a PM, but as the old famous UK tv commercial in the 70’s use to say, “where is the beef“?

[miltiades]

Said the idiot who thinks begging for a deal with the EU is sensible. Or is it a tactic to scupper the will of the people?

Already Boris has destroyed you all in the brains department and sent a stern message

I must admitt Im rather pleased that tou have said what you said, since everything that you said over the years has been disastrously wrong.
By the way, on another subject, do you still have your ...Tesla shares? Watch the market today. !!!

[cyprusgrump]

Said the idiot who thinks begging for a deal with the EU is sensible. Or is it a tactic to scupper the will of the people?

Already Boris has destroyed you all in the brains department and sent a stern message

I must admitt Im rather pleased that tou have said what you said, since everything that you said over the years has been disastrously wrong.
By the way, on another subject, do you still have your ...Tesla shares? Watch the market today. !!!

And talking of being disastrously wrong...

I'm still convinced that Boris will not win and Hunt will be the new PM.

[miltiades]

Said the idiot who thinks begging for a deal with the EU is sensible. Or is it a tactic to scupper the will of the people?

Already Boris has destroyed you all in the brains department and sent a stern message

I must admitt Im rather pleased that tou have said what you said, since everything that you said over the years has been disastrously wrong.
By the way, on another subject, do you still have your ...Tesla shares? Watch the market today. !!!

And talking of being disastrously wrong...

I'm still convinced that Boris will not win and Hunt will be the new PM.

The odds were heavily in favour of the Clown. My comments were more of a hope than of reality. As Im convinced that his tenure at no 10 will be short lived Im prepared to make a prediction here and now. In contrast to the newly appointed Chancellor , Javid, who actually said that following Brexit there will be HUGE economic advantages for the UK, I will say that inflation, prices rising sharply, unemployment, the Pound losing more and more, investments in the UK stagnating, the British public, not all but the little Englanders will be calling for a .....war against the thriving EU. The country, the UK, will be in for a very tough time, after the Clown departs Fuckrage and his Brexit party could be in power, this will most certainly be the last nail on the coffin of the UK, or rather of England as the UK will soon seize to exist in its present format. The Scots are unlikely to reject independence if presented with a referendum.
Good luck you small minded little englanders Plonkers who can not see further than your snotty noses.
Rule Brittania blah blah blah !!!

[Londonrake]

The EU said they will look at any new proposal BJ will offer. The EU also said they will not re negotiate the deal they have struck with May. So far the EU has maintained their position 100% since the agreement, so the ball is in BJ‘s court, especially when the British parliament does not support a no deal Brexit. BJ can declare anything all he wants in his first speech as a PM, but as the old famous UK tv commercial in the 70’s use to say, “where is the beef“?

AFAIUI, May wasn't "forced" by parliament to ask for an Article 50 time extension. She could have ignored it. She didn't because she didn't want to.

IMHO, it has always been the case that you will get no meaningful concession from the EU until it went to the wire. German manufacturing industry is teetering on the edge of recession and expecting a large increase in tariff rates from Trump. The UK is Germany's largest export market for cars (790,000 last year) increased tariffs from the UK at the same time would push both the car and manufacturing industries over the top. You are talking about hundreds of thousands of jobs. Macron has had problems with the gilets jaunes movement. At one point he had 5000 troops on the streets. This would pale into insignificance to what he could expect when the French fishing industry finds itself locked out of UK territorial waters and his farmers lose tariff free access to one of their biggest export markets. Likewise, Italian farmers, already buckling from EU imposed austerity measures, would be up in arms at the loss of UK markets. Ireland would lose an estimated 80,000 jobs and 5% of GDP, virtually overnight.

A no deal is never going to survive beyond the first implementation because Merkel, Macron, Matterella and Varadkar are not going to throw themselves off a cliff in the "principled" cause of Brussel's death cult centralists. It would simply be far too disastrous - for both sides. It ain't gonna happen. Ever.

Just my opinion.

[Kikapu]

The EU said they will look at any new proposal BJ will offer. The EU also said they will not re negotiate the deal they have struck with May. So far the EU has maintained their position 100% since the agreement, so the ball is in BJ‘s court, especially when the British parliament does not support a no deal Brexit. BJ can declare anything all he wants in his first speech as a PM, but as the old famous UK tv commercial in the 70’s use to say, “where is the beef“?

AFAIUI, May wasn't "forced" by parliament to ask for an Article 50 time extension. She could have ignored it. She didn't because she didn't want to.

IMHO, it has always been the case that you will get no meaningful concession from the EU until it went to the wire. German manufacturing industry is teetering on the edge of recession and expecting a large increase in tariff rates from Trump. The UK is Germany's largest export market for cars (790,000 last year) increased tariffs from the UK at the same time would push both the car and manufacturing industries over the top. You are talking about hundreds of thousands of jobs. Macron has had problems with the gilets jaunes movement. At one point he had 5000 troops on the streets. This would pale into insignificance to what he could expect when the French fishing industry finds itself locked out of UK territorial waters and his farmers lose tariff free access to one of their biggest export markets. Likewise, Italian farmers, already buckling from EU imposed austerity measures, would be up in arms at the loss of UK markets. Ireland would lose an estimated 80,000 jobs and 5% of GDP, virtually overnight.

A no deal is never going to survive beyond the first implementation because Merkel, Macron, Matterella and Varadkar are not going to throw themselves off a cliff in the "principled" cause of Brussel's death cult centralists. It would simply be far too disastrous - for both sides. It ain't gonna happen. Ever.

Just my opinion.

People in the UK who can afford to buy German cars now, will go on buying German cars in the future, Brexit deal or no deal, don't you think?

[cyprusgrump]

The EU said they will look at any new proposal BJ will offer. The EU also said they will not re negotiate the deal they have struck with May. So far the EU has maintained their position 100% since the agreement, so the ball is in BJ‘s court, especially when the British parliament does not support a no deal Brexit. BJ can declare anything all he wants in his first speech as a PM, but as the old famous UK tv commercial in the 70’s use to say, “where is the beef“?

AFAIUI, May wasn't "forced" by parliament to ask for an Article 50 time extension. She could have ignored it. She didn't because she didn't want to.

IMHO, it has always been the case that you will get no meaningful concession from the EU until it went to the wire. German manufacturing industry is teetering on the edge of recession and expecting a large increase in tariff rates from Trump. The UK is Germany's largest export market for cars (790,000 last year) increased tariffs from the UK at the same time would push both the car and manufacturing industries over the top. You are talking about hundreds of thousands of jobs. Macron has had problems with the gilets jaunes movement. At one point he had 5000 troops on the streets. This would pale into insignificance to what he could expect when the French fishing industry finds itself locked out of UK territorial waters and his farmers lose tariff free access to one of their biggest export markets. Likewise, Italian farmers, already buckling from EU imposed austerity measures, would be up in arms at the loss of UK markets. Ireland would lose an estimated 80,000 jobs and 5% of GDP, virtually overnight.

A no deal is never going to survive beyond the first implementation because Merkel, Macron, Matterella and Varadkar are not going to throw themselves off a cliff in the "principled" cause of Brussel's death cult centralists. It would simply be far too disastrous - for both sides. It ain't gonna happen. Ever.

Just my opinion.

People in the UK who can afford to buy German cars now, will go on buying German cars in the future, Brexit deal or no deal, don't you think?

Which is precisely what Brexiteers have been saying for the past three years!

[Lordo]

just a few myths from the brexiteers.
1. ghe germans will not allow the eu to interfere with their exports. wrong. each country or corporation cannot make such decision the whole of the eu has to. it just goes to show they have no logic. if germans could do such a deal by themselves we would not need to leave to be able make such deal with countries outside the eu.
2. the back stop can be removed if the eu wished. wrooooooong. back stop is to do with the good friday agreement. it is not just a matter of where to check the good, there cannot be checks so northern ireland has to be under the umbrella of the eu. hence if there is no deal the default is backstop in place. and of course if the border is open how ae they going to stop the europeans from coming into the uk. you just cannot make it up.

the dup knows this and the eu will not and cannot remove it and hence it will not go though parliament. since when has one country been able to pull out of an international agreement. of course there are fools here who claimed that the guarante cannot apply as terggy has negated the agreement by her actions in 1974. and yet anastasiades is asking for it to be removed.

so getting back to the back stop, if removed uk will find herself in court but as the courts take such a long time, there are worse consequences, ira is looking for an excuse to start bombing. and good luck to you with that one.