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[Paphitis]

Great ! If you are predicting a hard Brexit then there will be NO Brexit !!

I am predicting a hard BREXIT at this stage, but there is a distinct possibility that when the EU realize that Britain is going down the NO Deal Brexit road, they could themselves cave in and negotiate multiple Free Trade Deals before the point of no return and salvage what they can.

So Hard Brexit could end up culminate in Free Trade.

Also remember, that Britain has Free Trade Deals pending with USA, Australia and Canada. So they won't be in a terrible pickle either if it comes to worst case scenario.

[miltiades]

Great ! If you are predicting a hard Brexit then there will be NO Brexit !!

I am predicting a hard BREXIT at this stage, but there is a distinct possibility that when the EU realize that Britain is going down the NO Deal Brexit road, they could themselves cave in and negotiate multiple Free Trade Deals before the point of no return and salvage what they can.

So Hard Brexit could end up culminate in Free Trade.

Do you think Brexit will definitely happen on October 31st ? I do not .

[Paphitis]

Great ! If you are predicting a hard Brexit then there will be NO Brexit !!

I am predicting a hard BREXIT at this stage, but there is a distinct possibility that when the EU realize that Britain is going down the NO Deal Brexit road, they could themselves cave in and negotiate multiple Free Trade Deals before the point of no return and salvage what they can.

So Hard Brexit could end up culminate in Free Trade.

Do you think Brexit will definitely happen on October 31st ? I do not .

No I do not think it will definitely happen by 31st October but it is a big possibility with Boris. He is the leader who is most likely to just get on with it and even if this means No Deal BREXIT.

Britain atm is shooting itself in the foot by going back to the EU and pleading for a BREXIT deal and the EU are playing hardball. Britain is trying to negotiate a deal and their Parliament is placing their negotiators in a position of weakness.

They should stop being such cucks and give the EU an ultimatum that Brexit WILL occur by .....(insert date), deal or no deal. Then watch all the corrupt idiots in Brussels na gourevounte

Soind the tables entirely and watch the EU backplip instantly. But even if they do not, Britain should press ahead with the No Deal scenario. And don't look back.

Once Britain is out, Boris should go to the polls immediately. He will always be remembered as the PM that took Britain out of the EU and as such he should validate his mandate in history. Otherwise, it's a poisonous chalice.

[miltiades]

So Boris , you say, will be the next PM
!! He is odds on favourite, but he could drop a clanger or two, he is a clown after all, before conservative members vote.
Empires come and go, but a sad way to go. A nation devided, London the crime capital of the world, a nation obsessed with which Royal fucked and made someone pregnant
Farage the arsehole threatening civic unrest, boy I'm glad I'm out. More so since a ...Woolf whistle is now a ....criminal offence !!!

[erolz66]

I think once Britain leaves that's it. No point going back. Just negotiate Free Trade Deals with individual EU States, and other non EU States. Britain in the end has more control.

The UK can not negotiate free trade deals with individual EU states. No country can do this. You can only agree trade deals with the whole EU or none of it. If I had not been on this forum for a decade plus I would say your desire to publicly parade your own ignorance is quite stunning but given that I have it does not really surprise me.

I am predicting a hard BREXIT at this stage, but there is a distinct possibility that when the EU realize that Britain is going down the NO Deal Brexit road, they could themselves cave in and negotiate multiple Free Trade Deals before the point of no return and salvage what they can.

None of the issues involved in negotiating an agreed exit with the EU disappear if the UK leaves without a deal. After a no deal exit the EU will still want agreement on things like the 'divorce bill', the NI border situation and countless other things. The idea that after a no deal exit they will just forget these things and say ok let's do a trade deal between the UK and the EU is puerile nonsense.

So Hard Brexit could end up culminate in Free Trade.

Even if and when, after a no deal exit, the UK and the EU do agree a free trade deal, this will still require customs checks on the flow of goods between the UK and the EU that will have an impact and increased cost on trade between the UK and the EU. You can agree zero import tariffs on categories of goods but without the regulatory alignment of a customs union there still has to be customs checks of some kind.

Also remember, that Britain has Free Trade Deals pending with USA, Australia and Canada. So they won't be in a terrible pickle either if it comes to worst case scenario.

The UK does not have deals in place with these countries ready to go from the day we leave. Negotiating such deals will take time and be very difficult. In the case of the US for example it is clear that one of the primary 'wants' on the side of the US will be access for US companies to the health care market in the UK which would undermine the NHS in countless ways. The there is chlorinated chicken and hormone fed beef, neither of which can currently be exported from the US to the UK and neither of which the UK population want. There are countless other issues that will be involved. All of which even if they can be agreed will impact negotiations between the UK and EU on any trade deal we might agree with them (after we have agreed the divorce bill, NI issue etc etc). This idea then that on Monday we leave the EU without a deal and on Tuesday we sign a trade deal with the US is again just puerile nonsense.

and the EU are playing hardball

The EU is seeking to look after it's own interests as any sane entity would do in a negotiation, brought about not by themselves but by the UK. The UK is negotiating whilst being hemmed in and dominated by the ideology and demagoguery of the minority of extreme leave camp.

They should stop being such cucks and give the EU an ultimatum that Brexit WILL occur by .....(insert date), deal or no deal. Soind the tables entirely and watch the EU backplip instantly

This is exactly what we tried to do right up till 14 days before we were due to leave on the 29 March and the EU did 'cave'. So your 'plan' is to try again something we already tried and failed in the hope that we get a different result. Pretty much Einstein's definition of insanity.

A no deal exit does not just have impacts on trade (not just with the EU but with the 100 plus other countries and trading blocks we currently trade with via EU wide deals) , disastrous as the impacts on trade will be of such an exit. It will impact almost every international relationship the UK currently has, from issues to do with the transport of radioactive materials, agreements for access to airspace for UK airlines, certification and distribution of medicens to a thousand other things. All these things that currently governed by agreements will end on the day we leave without a deal and we will then have to scramble around to try and replace these agreements all at the same time and from a position of inherent weakness. This is why a majority of MP's from all parties (as well as almost certainly a majority of the UK population) do not, can not and will not accept such an exit - it would represent the the biggest act of self harm perpetrated by a democratically elected government on it's own people in the history of man kind.

[Paphitis]

So Boris , you say, will be the next PM
!! He is odds on favourite, but he could drop a clanger or two, he is a clown after all, before conservative members vote.
Empires come and go, but a sad way to go. A nation devided, London the crime capital of the world, a nation obsessed with which Royal fucked and made someone pregnant
Farage the arsehole threatening civic unrest, boy I'm glad I'm out. More so since a ...Woolf whistle is now a ....criminal offence !!!

Maybe.

I don't know who the next PM will be. All I can say is that he would be the logical person for BREXIT.

Boris is no fool like you pretend or would like to portray. The public actually love the odd clanger or 2 as long as the politician comes across as genuine and passes the pub test. Boris has more chance of passing the pub test than any alternatives because he looks to be quite the knock about guy.

All of Western Europe is becoming a cesspool of crime. And the reason for that - you work it out. It's the EU and globalisation that is to blame.

Civil unrest is a possible scenario because the democratic wishes of the people are being undermined. When this happens, you are basically telling the people that their will is irrelevant. That undermines Britain's entire democratic institution to the core, and that would be a very big shame for arguably the most stable political system on the planet.

In the end, the referendum has occurred and people went to the polls with a choice of either staying or leaving the EU. They opted to leave. I think its now time to deliver on the promises and get it over with. Even if the economy takes a hit, it is better to do this now and build on from there. I am not a doomsdayer. Britain can easily pen out Free Trade deals with the US, Australia and Canada and that will soften the landing considerably. In my opinion, I think a Free Trade deal with the EU will also occur despite the hardball rhetoric. It's not in the EU's interest to exclude the British economy so Britain should fare ok.

The British Parliament is actually making the entire situation very bad for Britain and at the end of the day, they should just proceed with the all bets are off scenario and make known their intentions to proceed with a no deal BREXIT.

Do not go back to the EU arseholes like beggars. Cyprus and Greece did that and look what happened. They fucked them like little bitches because what is what you are when you go to these arseholes with your hand out.

[miltiades]

You are really so so naive ! Ypu know next to nothing about the EU, the UK or indeed anything else. You are talking rubbish. Please so not post more crap.

[Paphitis]

You are really so so naive ! Ypu know next to nothing about the EU, the UK or indeed anything else. You are talking rubbish. Please so not post more crap.

Naive about what? The BREXIT vote?

The horse has bolted. Time to leave!

In years to come, Britain will be remembered for this when the EU ship sinks. In the past, I use to think the EU was a good thing too, but since 2009 I have learned exactly what the EU is and stands for. Only cucks go back for more.

I will even go as far as saying that the EU is largely responsible for the Greek and Cypriot Banking collapse.

[miltiades]

More rubbish!! Did you say you fly planes??
The EU is the most succesful union of nations in history. It will expand and go from strength to strength. Also ...Satan will remain the dictator of Syria !!

[erolz66]

Naive about what?

I do not know about naive but to say after a no deal exit the UK should then "Just negotiate Free Trade Deals with individual EU States" shows a fundamental and profound ignorance about one of the most fundamental aspects involved in Brexit.