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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:43 am

Maximus wrote:It’s not like that at all,

now there is more information and people can make a better informed decision,

A) leave with this deal
B) leave with no deal
C) remain.

Two out of three of those choices are to leave.

1st, The referendum is not legally binding.
2nd, people are entitled to change their mind after being more educated on the subject.

This whole brexit saga has become a joke.

It needs a conclusion.


Sorry but democracy doesn’t work that way.

Can’t just keep cancelling the democratic process because you don’t like the outcome.

This makes a mockery of all institutions and Britain would have capitulated to foreign interests.
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:45 am

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Hard exit is the best outcome for the UK and will send the EU in a spin.


It won’t,

This is just overestimating the uk’s importance and a tad sensationalist.

Nearly half of the uk’s exports go to the eu market, and she won’t be getting the same preferential treatment post brexit like she is getting now as a full member.

Britain has a huge market on her doorstep that would get more expensive to access. The eu has a smaller one to access in Britain on hers.

Britain also will be left out of any decision making on the continent.

Seriously, Who do you think needs who more?


The EU can not go without the British market to sell expensive German cars whilst the British market can almost be absorbed with Free Trade deals with the USA alone.

Buckle up boys. Britain is leaving. Time to accept it.

You are all in bed with the enemy and Turkey’s biggest appeaser. Shame on you all!
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby miltiades » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:46 am

You have consistently been wrong on every issue, so you will be wrong on this one too.
Great news :lol: :D :lol:
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby cyprusgrump » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:56 am

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Hard exit is the best outcome for the UK and will send the EU in a spin.


It won’t,

This is just overestimating the uk’s importance and a tad sensationalist.

Nearly half of the uk’s exports go to the eu market, and she won’t be getting the same preferential treatment post brexit like she is getting now as a full member.

Britain has a huge market on her doorstep that would get more expensive to access. The eu has a smaller one to access in Britain on hers.

Britain also will be left out of any decision making on the continent.

Seriously, Who do you think needs who more?


Any tariffs that the EU imposes on UK goods can be more than compensated for by the removal of the membership fee that the UK pays to the EU every year.

And talking of that membership fee, the UK is one of the largest contributors to the EU budget. The other 27 are going to have to pay much, much more in (or get much, much less out) when the UK leaves.

I think you’ll find that the effect on the EU is significant.
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Kikapu » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:05 am

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:It’s not like that at all,

now there is more information and people can make a better informed decision,

A) leave with this deal
B) leave with no deal
C) remain.

Two out of three of those choices are to leave.

1st, The referendum is not legally binding.
2nd, people are entitled to change their mind after being more educated on the subject.

This whole brexit saga has become a joke.

It needs a conclusion.



Sorry but democracy doesn’t work that way.

Can’t just keep cancelling the democratic process because you don’t like the outcome.

This makes a mockery of all institutions and Britain would have capitulated to foreign interests.

I agree, which is why the UK must leave the EU in one form or the other to uphold the democratic vote already taken three years ago to leave. However, once that has been accomplished and the UK wants to re enter the EU, another referendum would be peoples democratic right to have one, just like Scotland will push for another referendum to leave the UK if there is a Brexit.
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby miltiades » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:18 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Hard exit is the best outcome for the UK and will send the EU in a spin.


It won’t,

This is just overestimating the uk’s importance and a tad sensationalist.

Nearly half of the uk’s exports go to the eu market, and she won’t be getting the same preferential treatment post brexit like she is getting now as a full member.

Britain has a huge market on her doorstep that would get more expensive to access. The eu has a smaller one to access in Britain on hers.

Britain also will be left out of any decision making on the continent.

Seriously, Who do you think needs who more?


Any tariffs that the EU imposes on UK goods can be more than compensated for by the removal of the membership fee that the UK pays to the EU every year.

And talking of that membership fee, the UK is one of the largest contributors to the EU budget. The other 27 are going to have to pay much, much more in (or get much, much less out) when the UK leaves.

I think you’ll find that the effect on the EU is significant.

So , we are going to be ....rich !! What a shame the Pound does not reflect this :lol:
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby cyprusgrump » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:32 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:It’s not like that at all,

now there is more information and people can make a better informed decision,

A) leave with this deal
B) leave with no deal
C) remain.

Two out of three of those choices are to leave.

1st, The referendum is not legally binding.
2nd, people are entitled to change their mind after being more educated on the subject.

This whole brexit saga has become a joke.

It needs a conclusion.



Sorry but democracy doesn’t work that way.

Can’t just keep cancelling the democratic process because you don’t like the outcome.

This makes a mockery of all institutions and Britain would have capitulated to foreign interests.

I agree, which is why the UK must leave the EU in one form or the other to uphold the democratic vote already taken three years ago to leave. However, once that has been accomplished and the UK wants to re enter the EU, another referendum would be peoples democratic right to have one, just like Scotland will push for another referendum to leave the UK if there is a Brexit.


Agree 100%
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby Jerry » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:18 am

British people had many reasons to vote the way they did but I have little doubt that the outcome was determined by a small number of racists who want foreigners out. I hope the leavers posting here feel comfortable with having their wishes determined by racists; I'm not suggesting for one moment that posters here share their views.

There were many reports of foreigners being abused after the referendum. My son's firm employs quite a few European workers, about a week after the referendum the management had to call a mass meeting and threatened instant dismissal to anyone discriminating or abusing a fellow employee; for example the day after the vote one Polish engineer was found a note on her desk offering a lift to the airport, others were asked if they had started packing their suitcases.

Farage's creations, UKIP and Brexit Party, rely on the racist vote for much of their support, if Leavers here are happy to ride on their coat-tails to justify their position then so be it.
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby cyprusgrump » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:22 am

Jerry wrote:British people had many reasons to vote the way they did but I have little doubt that the outcome was determined by a small number of racists who want foreigners out. I hope the leavers posting here feel comfortable with having their wishes determined by racists; I'm not suggesting for one moment that posters here share their views.

There were many reports of foreigners being abused after the referendum. My son's firm employs quite a few European workers, about a week after the referendum the management had to call a mass meeting and threatened instant dismissal to anyone discriminating or abusing a fellow employee; for example the day after the vote one Polish engineer was found a note on her desk offering a lift to the airport, others were asked if they had started packing their suitcases.

Farage's creations, UKIP and Brexit Party, rely on the racist vote for much of their support, if Leavers here are happy to ride on their coat-tails to justify their position then so be it.


Racist no longer has any meaning... :roll:

It used to be a heinous insult but you Remainers have thrown it around so often it is now meaningless... Essentially, anybody that thinks Brexit is a good idea is now a racist, all 17 million of us!

Water off a duck's back... :lol:
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Re: Will a Clown enter no.10 ??

Postby erolz66 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:13 am

cyprusgrump wrote: Racist no longer has any meaning... :roll:

It used to be a heinous insult but you Remainers have thrown it around so often it is now meaningless... Essentially, anybody that thinks Brexit is a good idea is now a racist, all 17 million of us!

Water off a duck's back... :lol:



Yet racism still exits. So what do you call someone who IS racist if the word 'racist' has no meaning as you claim ?
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