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[Maximus]

I am not really following British politics as much as I used to.

But

if Britain wants to leave the eu, why doesn’t she just leave?

Why is she still there?

They are afraid what might happen to the UK economically if it left without a deal that would favour the UK.

Well, I think it’s unrealistic to expect a deal that would favor the uk at the expense of other eu member states.

Wasn’t the whole point of the argument for brexit to take control of the uk’s borders, laws and save money that Britain contributes to it?

It sounds like leaving has a higher cost than remaining in the eu.

If Britain really wanted to leave, she could.

Doesn’t sound or look like she does or can afford to leave.

It’s all a charade.

[Kikapu]

I am not really following British politics as much as I used to.

But

if Britain wants to leave the eu, why doesn’t she just leave?

Why is she still there?

They are afraid what might happen to the UK economically if it left without a deal that would favour the UK.

Well, I think it’s unrealistic to expect a deal that would favor the uk at the expense of other eu member states.

Wasn’t the whole point of the argument for brexit to take control of the uk’s borders, laws and save money that Britain contributes to it?

It sounds like leaving has a higher cost than remaining in the eu.

If Britain really wanted to leave, she could.

Doesn’t sound or look like she does or can afford to leave.

It’s all a charade.

That is the arrogance of the UK thinking their shit does not stink, therefore, they wanted to cherrypick what they wanted and leave the rest behind, and the UK thought that the EU would accept it, just to be grateful to have the UK in the EU. Well, the EU said, you want to leave, then leave, either leave on our terms or with nothing at all, take it or leave it. The UK is having a hard time accepting the two option that she has got herself into. Be careful what you wish for (vote for), because you might just get it, but don’t like it.

[Maximus]

What I would do is hold a second referendum,

Clearly explaining the deal that is on the table, what it’s benefits are and the potential risks.

It’s either leave with that deal or leave with nothing or remain in the eu.

And be done with it.

[Paphitis]

I am not really following British politics as much as I used to.

But

if Britain wants to leave the eu, why doesn’t she just leave?

Why is she still there?

They are afraid what might happen to the UK economically if it left without a deal that would favour the UK.

Well, I think it’s unrealistic to expect a deal that would favor the uk at the expense of other eu member states.

Wasn’t the whole point of the argument for brexit to take control of the uk’s borders, laws and save money that Britain contributes to it?

It sounds like leaving has a higher cost than remaining in the eu.

If Britain really wanted to leave, she could.

Doesn’t sound or look like she does or can afford to leave.

It’s all a charade.

That is the arrogance of the UK thinking their shit does not stink, therefore, they wanted to cherrypick what they wanted and leave the rest behind, and the UK thought that the EU would accept it, just to be grateful to have the UK in the EU. Well, the EU said, you want to leave, then leave, either leave on our terms or with nothing at all, take it or leave it. The UK is having a hard time accepting the two option that she has got herself into. Be careful what you wish for (vote for), because you might just get it, but don’t like it.

The Brexiteers are actually very happy with a Hard Exit.

It's the remainers like the previous PM, and the Parliament who are being obtrusive to delay, complicate and sabotage the Exit. And the EU will not give the Brits a deal because they know it will stop them from leaving, until they actually get someone (Boris) who is willing to bite the bullet.

Hard exit is the best outcome for the UK and will send the EU in a spin.

[Paphitis]

I am not really following British politics as much as I used to.

But

if Britain wants to leave the eu, why doesn’t she just leave?

Why is she still there?

Because of the remoaners holding the country to ransom and not respecting the democratic wishes of the people.

Hard Brexit is actually a very valid tactic for Britain which would be more devastating for the EU than Britain. It's time to call the bluff,

[Lordo]

you guys are talkinf crap again, you are just cluless.

the root of the referendum goes back to 2010. when the tories won power they wanted 3 things from the eu. and if they are not given it they will call a referendum was the blackmail to merkel.
now the three things were:
1. they wanted out of the eu human rights laws
2. they wanted to be excluded from the working time directive which stopped people working more than 48 hours a week. before that junior doctors could work 90 hours a week
3. they wanted the city to be excluded from the new rules about preventing fraud in the financial sector which is now being implemented.

he backed himself in the corner by blackmailing the eu and they gave them the two finger salute and low and behold may did the sme thing with the backstop saying if they do not remove it they will leave with no deal. in fact right from the start she was saying no deal is better than a bad deal.

that is the top and bottom of it.

and here for once i agree with what maximoboullo said. what exactly is wrong with getting a deal and asking people to vote for either the deal, brexit or remain. give people first and second preferences. there is of course the problem that nrexiters declare everything bad about brexit as being project fear. and of course the government has done studies about the consequences of brexit and they first said they were doing about 60 different studies and then they announced they have not done any. how can we possibly leave without such a study.

in anycase this parliament will not brexit any time. it looks like brois is abou to do a may and call for an election as sooon as he wins, and that will be that. the tory party will not come to power for another 10 years.

there was a documentary about it called inside europe 10 years of episode 1. it goers into it in detail.

[Paphitis]

you guys are talkinf crap again, you are just cluless.

the root of the referendum goes back to 2010. when the tories won power they wanted 3 things from the eu. and if they are not given it they will call a referendum was the blackmail to merkel.
now the three things were:
1. they wanted out of the eu human rights laws
2. they wanted to be excluded from the working time directive which stopped people working more than 48 hours a week. before that junior doctors could work 90 hours a week
3. they wanted the city to be excluded from the new rules about preventing fraud in the financial sector which is now being implemented.

he backed himself in the corner by blackmailing the eu and they gave them the two finger salute and low and behold may did the sme thing with the backstop saying if they do not remove it they will leave with no deal. in fact right from the start she was saying no deal is better than a bad deal.

that is the top and bottom of it.

and here for once i agree with what maximoboullo said. what exactly is wrong with getting a deal and asking people to vote for either the deal, brexit or remain. give people first and second preferences. there is of course the problem that nrexiters declare everything bad about brexit as being project fear. and of course the government has done studies about the consequences of brexit and they first said they were doing about 60 different studies and then they announced they have not done any. how can we possibly leave without such a study.

in anycase this parliament will not brexit any time. it looks like brois is abou to do a may and call for an election as sooon as he wins, and that will be that. the tory party will not come to power for another 10 years.

there was a documentary about it called inside europe 10 years of episode 1. it goers into it in detail.

Bottom line is, the Government gave the people a vote saying that it would be up to the people.

The people have had their say now. You can't just give the people a vote and say oh wait a minute, it doesn't count anymore (because some people don't like the outcome)

[Maximus]

It’s not like that at all,

now there is more information and people can make a better informed decision,

A) leave with this deal
B) leave with no deal
C) remain.

Two out of three of those choices are to leave.

1st, The referendum is not legally binding.
2nd, people are entitled to change their mind after being more educated on the subject.

This whole brexit saga has become a joke.

It needs a conclusion.

[Maximus]

Hard exit is the best outcome for the UK and will send the EU in a spin.

It won’t,

This is just overestimating the uk’s importance and a tad sensationalist.

Nearly half of the uk’s exports go to the eu market, and she won’t be getting the same preferential treatment post brexit like she is getting now as a full member.

Britain has a huge market on her doorstep that would get more expensive to access. The eu has a smaller one to access in Britain on hers.

Britain also will be left out of any decision making on the continent.

Seriously, Who do you think needs who more?

[miltiades]

Hard exit is the best outcome for the UK and will send the EU in a spin.

It won’t,

This is just overestimating the uk’s importance and a tad sensationalist.

Nearly half of the uk’s exports go to the eu market, and she won’t be getting the same preferential treatment post brexit like she is getting now as a full member.

Britain has a huge market on her doorstep that would get more expensive to access. The eu has a smaller one to access in Britain on hers.

Britain also will be left out of any decision making on the continent.

Seriously, Who do you think needs who more?

Good post Max !!