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[Piratis]

The territorial integrity and soveregnity of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus is inviolable

The pseudo state doesn't have a territory, soveregnity or anything. It exists as part of the illegal Turkish occupation of the Republic Cyprus. this is a FACT. Beyond that you can keep imagining whatever you want. The pseudo state will cease to exist when Republic of Cyprus will be liberated from the barbarian invaders.

[bg_turk]

When GCs are repatriated and repropriated in full accordance with their human rights as outlined in the UN charter, what exactly will you be lierating them from?

[Alexis]

The reason why it will not be agreed is not because it will cause suffering, the reason why it will not agreed is because in direct conflict to the hellenic aspiration of greek nationalists.

To expect TCs become a minority in the RoC while GCs would never agree to be a minority in the TRNC is a double standard to say the least, and I hope you realize that by the same reasoning TCs can never be expected to become a minority in a greek dominated state.

I'm sorry but what you say is simply not fair. Yes, you are correct that Greek nationalists would treat TCs as a minority had they unified with Greece. However, no one in Cyprus who wants Cyprus as an independent single country would ever question that Turkish should be an official language. Similarly no one would attempt to incorporate 'Hellenic' or 'Greek' into the name of the country either. As for political rights, many would agree to TCs having 50% of a senate to control the country's strategic direction as long as a chamber existed that is elected proportionally at a different level.

PS: I do not know how you got the 55% ownerhip figure for GCs. They will own around 42%=1368/3224 according to the table, which is close to their 37% share of the populaton.

If you read my post carefully you will see that:

In addition, according to your figures 1/3 of the population would therefore own around 1368/2481 = 55% of the privately owned land.

Where the 2481 is the total of privately owned land. In your figure of 3224 you have included the 734 of state owned land in your figures. Hope that explains it. Put another way, the TC majority by your reckoning would own 1113/3224 = 35% of the land when they are 63% of the population.
What I am hoping you will realise is that however unfair it may seem there are more GCs on this island, and that whilst GCs are obligated to gain TCs trust (something admittedly they have been poor at), TCs are equally obligated to make some kind of effort with regards living together given the circumstances. If partition is the only way forward then it should at least be a fair one since it is (and always has been) detrimental to one communities interests.

[bg_turk]

sorry, my wrong. I did not notice the word privately.
In any case some of the state owned land can be used to reduce the imbalance.

[Alexis]

Yes, your right, probably to around 50%-50%. Anyways, I do see the point you've been trying to make. Would the GCs need not do the same in place of the TCs, probably, which goes to show how similar we really all are.

[Perastikos]

The turkish spirit is still strong and alive in TCs, and they will decisively confront any encroachment on their state, like their forefathers confronted the greek invadors of the turkish heartland.

I dislike this nationalistic stupidities and my ideal is to live this stuff behind.

I’ve to say what this seems impossible because of the religious stupidity.

We simply can’t realize what there is no a realistic line between as.

TC and GC only difference is the religion and the language because of the religions.

The ideals of human rights and democracy can never be stupid.

The human rights can only confirmed from the specific court.

I can say what is my human right to go in the center of town naked and sing “my number one”.

I can fight for the right to do that but only if the community rights and interest allow it.

Human rights is to TC to have there own community and keep there culture.

We can speak about human rights for both sites, the question is to find a main solution.

If you stuck in your own rights you looking the justice about your own self.

Because there isn’t an absolute justice, this think is just a stupid myth.

If people gave up on them because they were hard to be realized such ideals would not exist in the first place.

If the people realize the common good and stop looking only there own interest the stupidity of nationalism will vanish.

Such things never come easy. Stupid are those that accept to be slaves and they give up on what is fair and just.

You can say farts based in your own stupid mind but you will never been able to support it.

What is slave and how you can define it?

Maybe you have to look back to Agent Greece and bring to me them definition.

[fideld]

I agree with Piratis that our country is violated and occupied for 31 years. These meetings do not help as actually the people that go there do not decide about the future of Cyprus. Others do. Like the English.
I fully disagree with the tyres and bomb threat, but the anger is felt by most of us GC. Most of them are not sending posts here, but the anger is there, as the occupation exists. The meetings are political tricks of Disy, that suddenly remembered the TC...Hello? we have elections?

[Perastikos]

I will agree with you about DISY.
And about the main illness of our political life except the pure madness of DIKO and the pure stupidity of AKEL, they have all the same problem to sit on the chairs.

I’m not voting any this time.

If I vote I’ll vote Papadopoulos because like our grandfathers says TETHKIA KKELE TEHKIO KSIOURAFI THELEI.

And why our tragedy stupid people doesn’t feel agree about their stupidity first?

Their stupidity causes all this problems.

First the hounta of Makarios and after the hounta of Greece why we are not putting bomb in our yards to save Cyprus?

Is the only solution.

[Svetlana]

Hi Perastokis

Do you believe that the bomb and bullet will bring the RoC one iota of justice?


Lana

[Perastikos]

I hope there in Russia (hope I’m not wrong ) you know what humor is?

I can only be sarcastic with such issues.