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[repulsewarrior]

https://www.inquisitr.com/5420063/youtu ... dead-body/

...more info, which includes a youtube, that is another eerie coincidence in this case.

[Kikapu]

:lol: Full of shit. Bad dog, you're a bad dog At least Bafidi is a GC and feels an obligation to defend his beloved place of birth and will post any shit. You are just a dirty Turk for fuck's sake. It is you that needs to get real ffs

I now go back to Iceman‘s signature.

Kicks, I really don't have anything personal against you. I told you before we probably might even enjoy a drink or 2 together if ever an opportunity presented itself. You post some good stuff and I read your posts about the 737 MAX with interest.

Seriously though, why do feel compelled to stick your nose into every single fucking topic that has the slightest criticism of the RoC? Why? Her hiyara tuz oluyrsun be dustum!! WHY????????

I can ask you the same question, MR, no matter how rhetorical the question may be, like, that is what people do in forums, no? It has nothing to do with the RoC or politics. It is a tragedy in the loss of human lives and it should not be politicized for point scoring. At some point our humanity should stand for something so to unite us, instead of dividing us. That‘s the least respect we can pay to the victims.

[MR-from-NG]

...indeed, i too imagine that there are those who feel their "Greekness" or their "Turkishness" entitles them to think of themselves as superior. And "it" may have lead to this criminal's behaviour; his motives are more complex politically, it seems: yet none were "TC", or from the "TRNC".

All the more reason, in Cyprus, to banish this sense that while we are uniquely different, we are not the same. That some are less, by exclusion. That as Persons, Individuals can be ranked for their exploitation. All the more important for us to look at ourselves, and how we see those living around us, our own ''Greekness'' or ''Turkishness'', if you will.

All the more reason for Cypriots to take up this cause; what as Cypriots, Cypriots can do better.

...indeed, it is as is said, a watershed moment, a loss of innocence, where the Police in Cyprus can look at themselves. What they do now is a matter of their conviction to improve their capacities, and their vision. So too, the Cypriot People, who may now realise that they can do more to defend women from becoming victims of horrible crimes. It would not surprise me to see Legislation written in these victims' names.

...indeed, "This" must stop.

@MR-from-NG, i ask, what is it that makes you to be ashamed of Kiks, a Cypriot, a Turk, but no "Turk"?

I'm not ashamed of him. I'm just sick and tired of him sticking his Turkish nose into every topic that has even the slightest criticism of the RoC
He feels he owes it to the GC's and he really doesn't owe anyone anything. He can be a lot more likeable member by just being reasonable. He is intelligent and articulate and a positive contributor on many subjects. He just needs to stop posting crap just to be seen as a good Cypriot

[MR-from-NG]

:lol: Full of shit. Bad dog, you're a bad dog At least Bafidi is a GC and feels an obligation to defend his beloved place of birth and will post any shit. You are just a dirty Turk for fuck's sake. It is you that needs to get real ffs

I now go back to Iceman‘s signature.

Kicks, I really don't have anything personal against you. I told you before we probably might even enjoy a drink or 2 together if ever an opportunity presented itself. You post some good stuff and I read your posts about the 737 MAX with interest.

Seriously though, why do feel compelled to stick your nose into every single fucking topic that has the slightest criticism of the RoC? Why? Her hiyara tuz oluyrsun be dustum!! WHY????????

I can ask you the same question, MR, no matter how rhetorical the question may be, like, that is what people do in forums, no? It has nothing to do with the RoC or politics. It is a tragedy in the loss of human lives and it should not be politicized for point scoring. At some point our humanity should stand for something so to unite us, instead of dividing us. That‘s the least respect we can pay to the victims.

Fair comment Kicks. May they all rest in peace and let's pray this is the first and last serial or any killing in Cyprus.

[Paphitis]

https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/05/03/president-dismisses-police-chief-over-serial-killer-fiasco/

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They need to explain this in more detail, otherwise the Chief of Police is just a political scapegoat.

President Nicos Anastasiades on Friday dismissed the chief of police over the force’s perceived failures to properly investigate the cases of missing women in the past three years who eventually turned out to be victims of a serial killer.

I will explain....

They are mentioning percieved (what does that mean) failures of the police to properly investigate the cases of missing women.

Perceived = does this mean its not real? It sure sounds like it.

I have a question!

How many illegal immigrants are at large in Cyprus?

50000

100000

or 150,000?

And do these illegals actually want to be found. I bet they don't! Which makes policing very difficult indeed.

You can put in a missing person's report in Australia. The police will take down the details. They will put photos up on their missing person's website, ask around and generally they will try and find the missing person.

But what are the chances if the person doesn't want to be found or is in some mine shaft 500m underground in Cooper Pedy?

Now, let's say you went to CyPoL and put in a missing person's report in. They will do what they can, but let's say the person is in a suitcase at the bottom of a murky lake somewhere in Cyprus. How the fuck was CyPOL suppose to know that? What if it was an alien worker and they skipped the country through the occupied? I have heard that many of these foreign workers go to the occupied to work there once their VISA is out.I have also heard that many of these foreign workers also work at night as call girls. Lordo even bragged about it.

So there is that. Saying that the Commissioner didn't investigate because they were foreigners seems to be fake news to me and actually quite slanderous.

Was it because they were foreigners or because there isn't much they could do? Because I don't really see Australian Police looking every day for any one of the 45,000 missing people in Australia either, probably because they know it is futile or a bit like pissing against the wind.

Sure, they will go out if a Toddler was lost by its parents at the Mall, but would they expend the same energy if an adult mysteriously disappeared from their home for a week? Probably not.

There are many things CyPol would have presumed as far more likely to be the case with missing foreign workers, such as:

1) they are working in the RoC illegally as illegal immigrants,
2) they now work in the occupied areas where they are safe from deportation.
3) they are working as call girls.

There was no reason to suspect a Serial Killer. Especially in a country that has had no Serial killer in its history.

But of course Cyprus Mail will never mention anything like that. Much better to accuse CyPOL as not caring or bothering because the missing were foreigners! That they would put more effort in if the missing were Cypriots.

you and kikoboullo are both such assholes

it is the job of the border police to control immigration. the police in the street has the job to protect all people no matter what. so if a woman is raped of course she will not report the rapists becasue the first question the police is going to ask is to see if she is legal. since when has it been the policy of any country to only protect the legal residents of any country you yutter moron

go fuck yourselves you racist bastards both you and kickoboullos

Don't be a bloomin idiot all your life.

In Cyprus it is also the job of police to check the papers of these foreign workers and arrest them then hand them over to immigration for deportation.

So, foreign workers in Cyprus quite often go under the radar, living on the fringes and also by your admission use the Occupied to avoid capture and continue working illegally in Cyprus. This happens a lot.

nd this makes policing very difficult. Imagine going to the police to do a missing persons report anywhere let alone Cyprus. Let's say you do it in America or Australia. Sure its the police duty to solve this but what are the real chances of that if this person is an illegal immigrant, or doesn't want to be found, or is laying dead in cement boots down the bottom of a lake. the chances are fuck all is the correct answer to that question. It's not as if they won't do their job. They will do what they can but let's be realistic. They will make equiries and ask around to people they think last saw the person and follow other leads but after all that dries up there is stuff all they can do.

That is why there are 45,000 missing people in Australia. Missing for varying reasons I am sure and probably some due to murder as well. Plus they got all the forensics and CSI techniques which they invest heavily in and also very well trained specialists who are paid very well, but that doesn't mean they can find all these missing people because that is clearly NOT the case.

Don't be a moron all your life.

[Paphitis]

https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/05/03/president-dismisses-police-chief-over-serial-killer-fiasco/

.

They need to explain this in more detail, otherwise the Chief of Police is just a political scapegoat.

President Nicos Anastasiades on Friday dismissed the chief of police over the force’s perceived failures to properly investigate the cases of missing women in the past three years who eventually turned out to be victims of a serial killer.

I will explain....

They are mentioning percieved (what does that mean) failures of the police to properly investigate the cases of missing women.

Perceived = does this mean its not real? It sure sounds like it.

I have a question!

How many illegal immigrants are at large in Cyprus?

50000

100000

or 150,000?

And do these illegals actually want to be found. I bet they don't! Which makes policing very difficult indeed.

You can put in a missing person's report in Australia. The police will take down the details. They will put photos up on their missing person's website, ask around and generally they will try and find the missing person.

But what are the chances if the person doesn't want to be found or is in some mine shaft 500m underground in Cooper Pedy?

Now, let's say you went to CyPoL and put in a missing person's report in. They will do what they can, but let's say the person is in a suitcase at the bottom of a murky lake somewhere in Cyprus. How the fuck was CyPOL suppose to know that? What if it was an alien worker and they skipped the country through the occupied? I have heard that many of these foreign workers go to the occupied to work there once their VISA is out.I have also heard that many of these foreign workers also work at night as call girls. Lordo even bragged about it.

So there is that. Saying that the Commissioner didn't investigate because they were foreigners seems to be fake news to me and actually quite slanderous.

Was it because they were foreigners or because there isn't much they could do? Because I don't really see Australian Police looking every day for any one of the 45,000 missing people in Australia either, probably because they know it is futile or a bit like pissing against the wind.

Sure, they will go out if a Toddler was lost by its parents at the Mall, but would they expend the same energy if an adult mysteriously disappeared from their home for a week? Probably not.

There are many things CyPol would have presumed as far more likely to be the case with missing foreign workers, such as:

1) they are working in the RoC illegally as illegal immigrants,
2) they now work in the occupied areas where they are safe from deportation.
3) they are working as call girls.

There was no reason to suspect a Serial Killer. Especially in a country that has had no Serial killer in its history.

But of course Cyprus Mail will never mention anything like that. Much better to accuse CyPOL as not caring or bothering because the missing were foreigners! That they would put more effort in if the missing were Cypriots.

Point proven. You just can't handle criticism. Even your own president has accepted the failure of the police but forum members wont.

Really Frogman?

Well if CyPOL is a failure, then they should also point the finger to Scotland Yard (who many say are the best in the world), the FBI, US Law enforcement, Australian Federal Police and State Police because they are 1000 times bigger failures than cyPOL because they have Billions worth of resources each year and are unable to solve crimes like this or track the whereabouts of missing persons.

[repulsewarrior]

...indeed, "you" can feel safe, thinking that there is no potential for this to happen, being "Turks". And that the police in the so called TRNC, are better organised and trained to prevent a serial killer from realising his fantasies, but i don't think so. I would not feel safer, as a University student, a foreigner female and living alone, with such delusion i would be even more aware, because it invites such malice, to ignore the need to adapt and to better oneself, with such tragic events, accordingly.

...what is the population of the occupied territories? No one knows, never mind illegal immigration. Think about that.

...a new page is turned for the Republic, one hopes that these innocent victims will not die in vain. As the People must look within themselves, that such a man could live among them, so it is for the Judiciary and the Police, that his crimes escaped their attention many times before. For those who are "Greek" (or "Turkish"), those who think there are "others", that "they"/they are superior, perhaps they are more aware of the harm this thinking may bring, as well. For the rest of us we may remember that as a system it is not perfect, yet there is no system better if we seek to improve.

[Kikapu]

...indeed, i too imagine that there are those who feel their "Greekness" or their "Turkishness" entitles them to think of themselves as superior. And "it" may have lead to this criminal's behaviour; his motives are more complex politically, it seems: yet none were "TC", or from the "TRNC".

All the more reason, in Cyprus, to banish this sense that while we are uniquely different, we are not the same. That some are less, by exclusion. That as Persons, Individuals can be ranked for their exploitation. All the more important for us to look at ourselves, and how we see those living around us, our own ''Greekness'' or ''Turkishness'', if you will.

All the more reason for Cypriots to take up this cause; what as Cypriots, Cypriots can do better.

...indeed, it is as is said, a watershed moment, a loss of innocence, where the Police in Cyprus can look at themselves. What they do now is a matter of their conviction to improve their capacities, and their vision. So too, the Cypriot People, who may now realise that they can do more to defend women from becoming victims of horrible crimes. It would not surprise me to see Legislation written in these victims' names.

...indeed, "This" must stop.

@MR-from-NG, i ask, what is it that makes you to be ashamed of Kiks, a Cypriot, a Turk, but no "Turk"?

I'm not ashamed of him. I'm just sick and tired of him sticking his Turkish nose into every topic that has even the slightest criticism of the RoC
He feels he owes it to the GC's and he really doesn't owe anyone anything. He can be a lot more likeable member by just being reasonable. He is intelligent and articulate and a positive contributor on many subjects. He just needs to stop posting crap just to be seen as a good Cypriot

MR, just for the record, I am not here to be liked or disliked by anyone. I made this point many years ago here on CF. I am not participating in a popularity contest. I air my views as I see them, just like anyone else here. You can agree with my views or disagree with them, it is entirely up to you. Just because you may disagree with some of my views, it is no point in trying to politicize it with unfounded accusations.

[B25]

.... and verbal abuse!

[miltiades]

I have met both of these gentlemen, MR and Kikapou, I liked both and would happily socialize with both. I consider both as my friends, each has its own views, so do I, more so when it comes to ...blondes!!!
When either of you is coming to our beautiful island, dont forget the old boy will be more than happy to meet you.
Keep well guys, and stay ...young like ....me !!!