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[miltiades]

Paphitis, when will you grow up yoi fucking stupid man. The Cypriot media is saying what I have posted. Stop sucking your prick and grow up or better still fuck off the Cyprus forum you fucking moron.

[Paphitis]

Bullshit! All they said was that the Police Commissioner got sacked.

They didn’t say that CyPOL would have solved the crime anytime sooner and they didn’t draw a ling bow by saying that the CyPOL didn’t investigate.

What are they going to investigate anyway? Some missing illegals? They could be anywhere including in the occupied.

What do you propose they do?

Why don’t you imbecileslook at the US and Australian missing persons list? 45000 missing people in Australia and the police don’t go out of their way and they are not racist - just realistic!

What is the first thing they will tell you? They will even tell you that a missing person does not constitute a crime. I’m not joking? That’s what you will be told in Australia and those guys are no mugs either.

You people are stupid!

[miltiades]

You are full of shit.ofcourse they said so. The people are saying so. The tv and all media. Now fuck off you moron.

[Paphitis]

You are full of shit.ofcourse they said so. The people are saying so. The tv and all media. Now fuck off you moron.

Am I really Einstein?

Let me explain a few things to you. What makes you think the President is qualified to sack the police commissioner? What gives him the right to do this? Is it written in the constitution somewhere? Is there a law that allows the power to do this?

These things occur in totalitarian societies. It can happen in the USA because the POTUS has authority to appoint judges, and Police Commissioners of the FBI and so forth. A Mayor can appoint a Commissioner of their local police department. It makes these positions very much political appointments.

I'm sure it can happen in places like Russia too which is very totalitarian, unlike the US which is not so but the anomaly with the US is that these positions are political which is not a good thing either.

If that happened in Australia, there would be all hell breaking loose. Imagine the Prime Minister sacking a police commissioner. The people will be up in arms. It would never happen here because you are not allowed to politicize these appointments, or interfere with the Police or Courts. We are not a South American tinpot, or a totalitarian regime like Russia or have the kind of power the POTUS has.

I really want to know what this commissioner did, and how he was investigated and by whom.

Is it legit or did Anastasiades see an opportunity to sack a Commissioner that was probably appointed by AKEL, so he can put in his own puppet? These things are the questions I would be asking.

In Australia, a Prime Minister was pulled over by a police officer and fined for not wearing a seat belt FFS. Prime Minister couldn't sack them or interfere and they paid the fine because the media was watching for a scandal.

You made some very big claims. The only media I have seen make stupid claims which you seem to give credence to, is Cyprus Mail. No other reputable source is saying the kinds of things you are saying other than the cyPOL head being sacked because of the Serial Murder cases.

In Australia, and US we have had so many serial killers but we do not behave like Cypriot politicians do. Government does not interfere with the Judicial System or the Police. We have good police, flush with resources but there are so many crimes like this that remain unsolved. What friggin chance does CyPOL have? We have 45000 people missing in Australia, many are missing for many years. How the friggin heck can a PM come along and sack a Commissioner?

Mate, if the PM sacked any police officer in Australia, then you better explain why and I have not seen a very good explanation with any factual information or evidence whatsoever!

[MR-from-NG]

You two are a couple of idiots feeding of each other. If they were gc the police would’ve prevented this serial killer. I’m gonna keep it short. The murderer met his victims through social media. I repeat you dickbrains, social fucking media. If the victims were Greek the police would’ve at least checked their phone and pc or fucking laptops for clues. There would’ve been one fucking common denominator in their contacts and that would have been game over for the killer. You are so fucking stupid, the fucking pair of you. The victims are dead because they were poor fucking foreigners.

Social fucking media the killer used for fucks sake. In which developed country can you see a murderer getting away with 7 fucking murders using social media to pick his victims?

Social media, now there’s a place where everyone can be/is anonymous.

I am asking because I don’t know.
1. Did these victims and the killer use their real names in the social media?
2. How long were the victims reported missing before they were found dead?
3. Were these victims illegal in the RoC or were they legal and registered?
4. If they were legal and registered, did their social media names matched their registered names?

Yes of course, if a GC person who was missing in the RoC, someone who has a family, friends, job, and all the contacts we all have in general as someone living freely in the community, the missing will have far greater impact as well as there would be more leads for the police to go on, which would have made their work much easier.

According to Milti’s post, the police did investigate the missing woman and her child, so the missing in at least one case was not ignored. The fact that they were already dead elsewhere didn’t help the police with too much lead. But in the end, the discovery of the first 2 dead bodies did help to apprehend the guilty, because the police had evidence and leads to follow, and they did. In this case this serial killer has been caught where there are others in the world who are not.

Kicks,
Anonymous or not, phones, tablets, and PC's leave huge footprints. IP addresses, locations of masts mobiles are connected to. First GC girl that went missing would've had family and friends screaming at police to find their loved one. I'd like to think the missing girl would've had a cousin or 2 working in the police force so you know what happens then. The second missing girl would have had the GC's up in arms demeaning full alert by the police force and both of the GC girls would have been presumed dead/murdered.

The 3rd missing girl would have resulted in resignations and sackings. Now, however you look at this it is either Negligence or total incompetence. I'm going for the former.

[MR-from-NG]

You are full of shit.ofcourse they said so. The people are saying so. The tv and all media. Now fuck off you moron.

Am I really Einstein?

Let me explain a few things to you. What makes you think the President is qualified to sack the police commissioner? What gives him the right to do this? Is it written in the constitution somewhere? Is there a law that allows the power to do this?

These things occur in totalitarian societies. It can happen in the USA because the POTUS has authority to appoint judges, and Police Commissioners of the FBI and so forth. A Mayor can appoint a Commissioner of their local police department. It makes these positions very much political appointments.

I'm sure it can happen in places like Russia too which is very totalitarian, unlike the US which is so but the anomaly with the US is that these positions are political which is not a good thing.

If that happened in Australia, there would be all hell breaking loose. Imagine the Prime Minister sacking a police commissioner. The people will be up in arms. It would never happen here because you are not allowed to politicize these appointments, or interfere with the Police or Courts. We are not a South American tinpot, or a totalitarian regime like Russia or have the kind of power the POTUS has.

I really want to know what this commissioner did, and how he was investigated and by whom.

Is it legit or did Anastasiades see an opportunity to sack a Commissioner that was probably appointed by AKEL, so he can put in his own puppet? These things are the questions I would be asking.

In Australia, a Prime Minister was pulled over by a police officer and fined for not wearing a seat belt FFS. Prime Minister couldn't sack them or interfere and they paid the fine because the media was watching for a scandal.

You made some very big claims. The only media I have seen make stupid claims which you seem to give credence to, is Cyprus Mail. No other reputable source is saying the kinds of things you are saying other than the cyPOL head being sacked because of the Serial Murder cases.

In Australia, and US we have had so many serial killers but we do not behave like Cypriot politicians do. Government does not interfere with the Judicial System or the Police. We have good police, flush with resources but there are so many crimes like this that remain unsolved. What friggin chance does CyPOL have? We have 45000 people missing in Australia, many are missing for many years. How the friggin heck can a PM come along and sack a Commissioner?

Mate, if the PM sacked any police officer in Australia, then you better explain why and I have not seen a very good explanation with any factual information or evidence whatsoever!

Bafidi, stop comparing Cyprus to all these other countries. We are talking about Cyprus and it's police force. Cyprus has nothing in common with the countries you are trying to compare it to.

[Paphitis]

You are full of shit.ofcourse they said so. The people are saying so. The tv and all media. Now fuck off you moron.

Am I really Einstein?

Let me explain a few things to you. What makes you think the President is qualified to sack the police commissioner? What gives him the right to do this? Is it written in the constitution somewhere? Is there a law that allows the power to do this?

These things occur in totalitarian societies. It can happen in the USA because the POTUS has authority to appoint judges, and Police Commissioners of the FBI and so forth. A Mayor can appoint a Commissioner of their local police department. It makes these positions very much political appointments.

I'm sure it can happen in places like Russia too which is very totalitarian, unlike the US which is so but the anomaly with the US is that these positions are political which is not a good thing.

If that happened in Australia, there would be all hell breaking loose. Imagine the Prime Minister sacking a police commissioner. The people will be up in arms. It would never happen here because you are not allowed to politicize these appointments, or interfere with the Police or Courts. We are not a South American tinpot, or a totalitarian regime like Russia or have the kind of power the POTUS has.

I really want to know what this commissioner did, and how he was investigated and by whom.

Is it legit or did Anastasiades see an opportunity to sack a Commissioner that was probably appointed by AKEL, so he can put in his own puppet? These things are the questions I would be asking.

In Australia, a Prime Minister was pulled over by a police officer and fined for not wearing a seat belt FFS. Prime Minister couldn't sack them or interfere and they paid the fine because the media was watching for a scandal.

You made some very big claims. The only media I have seen make stupid claims which you seem to give credence to, is Cyprus Mail. No other reputable source is saying the kinds of things you are saying other than the cyPOL head being sacked because of the Serial Murder cases.

In Australia, and US we have had so many serial killers but we do not behave like Cypriot politicians do. Government does not interfere with the Judicial System or the Police. We have good police, flush with resources but there are so many crimes like this that remain unsolved. What friggin chance does CyPOL have? We have 45000 people missing in Australia, many are missing for many years. How the friggin heck can a PM come along and sack a Commissioner?

Mate, if the PM sacked any police officer in Australia, then you better explain why and I have not seen a very good explanation with any factual information or evidence whatsoever!

Bafidi, stop comparing Cyprus to all these other countries. We are talking about Cyprus and it's police force. Cyprus has nothing in common with the countries you are trying to compare it to.

Why wouldn't I compare!

Cyprus has had its very first serial killer. Unprecedented for Cyprus.

And everyone is behaving like CyPOL has greater capabilities the the Feds in Australia and USA. There are 45000 missing people in Australia mate.

45000! Let that sink in for just a second.

yet Cyprus has a few missing persons reports and everyone is saying they would have solved it after the second murder if it were not for their racism.

I mean Pffft!

[MR-from-NG]

...indeed, i too imagine that there are those who feel their "Greekness" or their "Turkishness" entitles them to think of themselves as superior. And "it" may have lead to this criminal's behaviour; his motives are more complex politically, it seems: yet none were "TC", or from the "TRNC".

All the more reason, in Cyprus, to banish this sense that while we are uniquely different, we are not the same. That some are less, by exclusion. That as Persons, Individuals can be ranked for their exploitation. All the more important for us to look at ourselves, and how we see those living around us, our own ''Greekness'' or ''Turkishness'', if you will.

All the more reason for Cypriots to take up this cause; what as Cypriots, Cypriots can do better.

...indeed, it is as is said, a watershed moment, a loss of innocence, where the Police in Cyprus can look at themselves. What they do now is a matter of their conviction to improve their capacities, and their vision. So too, the Cypriot People, who may now realise that they can do more to defend women from becoming victims of horrible crimes. It would not surprise me to see Legislation written in these victims' names.

...indeed, "This" must stop.

@MR-from-NG, i ask, what is it that makes you to be ashamed of Kiks, a Cypriot, a Turk, but no "Turk"?

I'm not ashamed of him. I'm just sick and tired of him sticking his Turkish nose into every topic that has even the slightest criticism of the RoC
He feels he owes it to the GC's and he really doesn't owe anyone anything. He can be a lot more likeable member by just being reasonable. He is intelligent and articulate and a positive contributor on many subjects. He just needs to stop posting crap just to be seen as a good Cypriot

MR, just for the record, I am not here to be liked or disliked by anyone. I made this point many years ago here on CF. I am not participating in a popularity contest. I air my views as I see them, just like anyone else here. You can agree with my views or disagree with them, it is entirely up to you. Just because you may disagree with some of my views, it is no point in trying to politicize it with unfounded accusations.

We're going to have to agree to disagree here Kicks. Your views are extremely biased, to the point that most newcomers to the forum had to be told that you were in fact a Turk.

Anyway, putting all aside I feel I owe you an apology for the names I called you. I behaved out of character and lost my cool with you. I will refrain from doing this again.

Apology accepted, MR (until the next time ).

We’ll have a drink one of these years, I’m sure. Actually, flew into London last night, but no time on this trip as I will return back to Zurich after a very short stay.

Nice one Kicks, I would've been happy to meet and entertain you. I hope you contact me on your next visit Kicks. Looking forward to it already.

[Maximus]

You are full of shit.ofcourse they said so. The people are saying so. The tv and all media. Now fuck off you moron.

Am I really Einstein?

Let me explain a few things to you. What makes you think the President is qualified to sack the police commissioner? What gives him the right to do this? Is it written in the constitution somewhere? Is there a law that allows the power to do this?

These things occur in totalitarian societies. It can happen in the USA because the POTUS has authority to appoint judges, and Police Commissioners of the FBI and so forth. A Mayor can appoint a Commissioner of their local police department. It makes these positions very much political appointments.

I'm sure it can happen in places like Russia too which is very totalitarian, unlike the US which is so but the anomaly with the US is that these positions are political which is not a good thing.

If that happened in Australia, there would be all hell breaking loose. Imagine the Prime Minister sacking a police commissioner. The people will be up in arms. It would never happen here because you are not allowed to politicize these appointments, or interfere with the Police or Courts. We are not a South American tinpot, or a totalitarian regime like Russia or have the kind of power the POTUS has.

I really want to know what this commissioner did, and how he was investigated and by whom.

Is it legit or did Anastasiades see an opportunity to sack a Commissioner that was probably appointed by AKEL, so he can put in his own puppet? These things are the questions I would be asking.

In Australia, a Prime Minister was pulled over by a police officer and fined for not wearing a seat belt FFS. Prime Minister couldn't sack them or interfere and they paid the fine because the media was watching for a scandal.

You made some very big claims. The only media I have seen make stupid claims which you seem to give credence to, is Cyprus Mail. No other reputable source is saying the kinds of things you are saying other than the cyPOL head being sacked because of the Serial Murder cases.

In Australia, and US we have had so many serial killers but we do not behave like Cypriot politicians do. Government does not interfere with the Judicial System or the Police. We have good police, flush with resources but there are so many crimes like this that remain unsolved. What friggin chance does CyPOL have? We have 45000 people missing in Australia, many are missing for many years. How the friggin heck can a PM come along and sack a Commissioner?

Mate, if the PM sacked any police officer in Australia, then you better explain why and I have not seen a very good explanation with any factual information or evidence whatsoever!

Bafidi, stop comparing Cyprus to all these other countries. We are talking about Cyprus and it's police force. Cyprus has nothing in common with the countries you are trying to compare it to.

Why wouldn't I compare!

Cyprus has had its very first serial killer. Unprecedented for Cyprus.

And everyone is behaving like CyPOL has greater capabilities the the Feds in Australia and USA. There are 45000 missing people in Australia mate.

45000! Let that sink in for just a second.

yet Cyprus has a few missing persons reports and everyone is saying they would have solved it after the second murder if it were not for their racism.

I mean Pffft!

You have a point Paphitis.

I have just been observing this thread unfold and elsewhere.

Those that say Cyprus cant be compared with other countries, then go on to proclaim that the Police in Cy could have prevented these serial murders after the 1st or second one simply have their comparisons backwards.

You would hear from the same crowd of like minded people on other threads criticize how Cyprus is backwards. These kinds of people like isolating cases in Cyprus so they can further their argument and criticism's in a vacuum. Which are usually flawed arguments from group think.

So, how is a backwards police force going to compare with a so called advanced one in another country that has thousands of people on a missing list?

Anyway, a thorough investigation needs to be conducted if a any police negligence.

proclaiming racism is a misguided reaction.

[Cap]

Dunno what you folks are arguing about.

We can't handle the situation on our own.
The RoC brought over Scotland Yard. 5 man team.
They brought over specialized sonar and camera equipment. (from the video I watched, a Spaniard is in charge of the operation)
This has made local news headlines for nearly a month.
Scores of protests across the island
People are pissed off.

Homicide rate in England hits a 10 year high and nobody bats an eyelid.