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[miltiades]

You have made it crystal clear that you do not like Cyprus, I have also made it abundantly clear that I love Cyprus hence we can never see eye to eye. Utopia exists nowhere , No nation can satisfy all of the people all of the time, personal circumstances influence one's feelings about a country. Money , in most cases, dictates ones views on a country. I too lost a substantial sum but Im lucky that my philosophy is that money does not constitute the main ingredient of happiness, indeed it does contribute but it is not the be all and and all. I have also met a number of " English Cypriots" who returned to Cyprus and are by no means entirely happy, reason ? MONEY the underlying cause. My younger brother brother returned some 27 years ago after receiving a lucrative offer to teach in Limassol at the American Academy. He made his life here in Cyprus and he is very contended. I have been here for almost 2 years now, the happiest and most full fulfilling years of my life, my roots are right here, numerous relatives, and so much to do and see. I understand that if I was starting a family and having to buy a house I might have felt differently. Cyprus has been in my blood all my life, never once did I " betray" my roots and here Im now enjoying my last 25 or 30 years of life !!!
By the way Cyprus attracts 4 times as much of its population in tourists where as Australia attracts around a third, about 8.5 million. I have nothing against Australia other than its too bloody isolated from the rest of the world.

[cyprusgrump]

Aussy, you are driving members away, no doubt about this. How many other members take 5 out 7 or even 6 out of 7 on the main board. You are just as boring as you were with your Syrian war nonsense.
Best you concentrate on the Australian ....diversity and leave us alone.

Am I? I think its the opposite.

Aussies generally attract members and other people.

Do you honestly believe that anybody looking for information on Cyprus will glance at page after page of your tedious monologues about how wonderful Australia is and think this site can be of any benefit to them...?

Seriously?

[miltiades]

I do sincerely hope that this pretentious fucking idiot who refers to Cyprus as a " shit hole" doesn't bore us any more with the crap he usually posts. This is a Cyprus forum, if Cyprus is a " shit hole" then fuck off and dont come back. A trumbed up fucking airline steward who thinks he flies aircraft. Stay in Australia and away from Cyprus you pittiful little arsehole.

[Cap]

Don't knock Paphitis.
He's from the 1960's -1970's mentality.
You know the type, they genuinely believe that CY is somehow 'inferior' to the Mama Balkan Republic, and that Cypriots have to be 'subservient' to it.
You know who you are, that's how you were brought up, and that's what you were taught to believe.

[Paphitis]

You have made it crystal clear that you do not like Cyprus, I have also made it abundantly clear that I love Cyprus hence we can never see eye to eye. Utopia exists nowhere , No nation can satisfy all of the people all of the time, personal circumstances influence one's feelings about a country. Money , in most cases, dictates ones views on a country. I too lost a substantial sum but Im lucky that my philosophy is that money does not constitute the main ingredient of happiness, indeed it does contribute but it is not the be all and and all. I have also met a number of " English Cypriots" who returned to Cyprus and are by no means entirely happy, reason ? MONEY the underlying cause. My younger brother brother returned some 27 years ago after receiving a lucrative offer to teach in Limassol at the American Academy. He made his life here in Cyprus and he is very contended. I have been here for almost 2 years now, the happiest and most full fulfilling years of my life, my roots are right here, numerous relatives, and so much to do and see. I understand that if I was starting a family and having to buy a house I might have felt differently. Cyprus has been in my blood all my life, never once did I " betray" my roots and here Im now enjoying my last 25 or 30 years of life !!!
By the way Cyprus attracts 4 times as much of its population in tourists where as Australia attracts around a third, about 8.5 million. I have nothing against Australia other than its too bloody isolated from the rest of the world.

I wouldn't say I hate it.

Like Pavlov's Dog, I associate the place with bad experiences and 2 million Euros isn't a small amount of money.

The problem is, in another country, there are protections from the things that resulted in our family losing a lot of property to third world because some old fart like you couldn't keep his dick in his pants. For instance, in Australia there are laws against slave labor. Only rich people can bring in "maids" from poor third world countries like Russia, Philippines, or Sri Lanka. That's because you have to pay them the same wage as an Aussie, and pay for all their medical expenses and boarding. The unions will never allow anyone to bring in labor and pay them peanuts. It can only maybe happen on the black market but if you get caught, then you are going to jail.

Likewise, if the Banking collapse that happened in Cyprus occurred in the USA or Australia, there would be inquests going on for decades and people and politicians would be in jail. There is no way there would be no blood let. In the USA, they are trying to impeach a POTUS. They have impeached one before in their history (Nixon). Can this happen in Cyprus? No it can't. It will never happen in Cyprus.

In Cyprus, little people get done over time and time again. No one cares. The elites have a Golden Parachute and will always escape. There is no transparency, and no one important will be held as accountable.

I respond to your over praising. Now I don't hate the place. I don't hate the Cypriot people. I just don't think of the place as some kind of paradise. It isn't a paradise. It's not even close to being a paradise or a utopia. In fact, it's very close to other tin pots like Zimbabwe, because a lot of people have worked all their lives and went to Cyprus and they got done over. They lost everything. There is no justice in Cyprus and you won't find it if you tried. Now imagine something like this occurring in Australia or USA. Lot's of new arseholes would be ripped.

And, it offers absolutely ZERO to someone growing up in Australia. In fact, you would have to be a first class Malaka to leave Australia for Cyprus. It's third world in comparison, and no you do not have the same quality of life or lifestyle. Australia is positively a very brilliant country that is hard to top. Cyprus has no chance of getting close. But there are some other countries that can get close. New Zealand for instance. Maybe Canada too, or Switzerland. That's pretty much it. Cyprus isn't on the radar. nd never will be either.

I wouldn't say I hate Cyprus. I don't hate it. And I don't hate the people either. You poor bastards are victims of total ineptness and absolute total bullshit on a grand scale. I feel sorry for you all. But I do get angry when I am in Cyprus and have very low tolerance for the stupidity. I can never live there. I know this because I will end up in trouble.

Cyprus does not appeal to me. Greece does, and many other European countries do. Cyprus isn't impressive at all.

[Paphitis]

Don't knock Paphitis.
He's from the 1960's -1970's mentality.
You know the type, they genuinely believe that CY is somehow 'inferior' to the Mama Balkan Republic, and that Cypriots have to be 'subservient' to it.
You know who you are, that's how you were brought up, and that's what you were taught to believe.

Kids straight out of university are putting their applications in to migrate to places like Australia.

I think you ask them because countries like Australia are getting hundreds of applicants from Cyprus every year.

What is very bad for Cyprus is that a lot of these people are highly qualified. They have Doctors Degrees, are Engineers, or some other profession. You end up with the brain drain. They end up with 6 figure salaries. The money entices them. the taxi industry and waiting on tables at Agia Napa does not compare.

And I will tell you why it won't changed. Because Cyprus has always managed to inflict total pain and despair on its people. It isn't your fault. I suggest you look at the imbeciles you vote in as "leaders" and make an honest comparison with other countries.

[Paphitis]

And as for Banks.

I told many people on this forum, that I would never Bank with Cypriot Banks even before the crisis.

I would Bank with other European banks yes - British banks, French Banks, German banks, even Maltese banks but I wouldn't touch a Cypriot run Bank with a foot pole.

I would Bank with American Banks, Kiwi banks, Chinese Banks, and Australian Banks. Even Arabic Banks. Cypriot banks I wouldn't touch.

Anyway, I wouldn't say anymore. There isn't any need. A lot of people suffered, and all of it was self inflicted too and could have been AVOIDED!

In the end, all this stuff degrades Cyprus to tinpot status. Sure, you are an EU country, but you are not really in that league.

If only Cyprus had a Donald Trump! That' is EXACTLY what you guys need. Someone to sort all the shit out! You can only dream of a Trump. In your dreams you would have someone like this this!

[miltiades]

You do talk a load of shit don't you.
Is Trump the guy you called an idiot?
You told us that even before the crisis you would not touch Cuprus banks. How come you are now telling us you lost 2 million euros ??
In reality if you could afford to live in Cyprus you would, but the pay for airline stewards isn't that high. !!
Cypriots emigrate for financial reasons ONLY. Those who get by comfortably do not emigrate.Those of us, lucky enough to return to Paradise Island, wouldn't change it for the world.

[Paphitis]

You do talk a load of shit don't you.
Is Trump the guy you called an idiot?
You told us that even before the crisis you would not touch Cuprus banks. How come you are now telling us you lost 2 million euros ??
In reality if you could afford to live in Cyprus you would, but the pay for airline stewards isn't that high. !!
Cypriots emigrate for financial reasons ONLY. Those who get by comfortably do not emigrate.Those of us, lucky enough to return to Paradise Island, wouldn't change it for the world.

Yes I called him an idiot. I also respect the wishes of the American people. He won. Americans wanted non-establishment and that is what they got and voted for. Hillary, was for more of the same.

I still do not like his character. But I do respect what he has done and achieved, and I also acknowledge the fact that he has accomplished a lot of things for the USA and the people of the USA who voted for him. And if I was eligible to vote in the States, I would vote for him. Why? because he has been the best POTUS in decades. He has already done more than Obama has.

I did not lose 2 million from the Banks. We lost from immovable property that belonged to our family, some of it for many generations. We lost the lot. Roots for an entire family and all. All because someone lost the plot. Grand children unsurped forever. How do you explain that to them?

Cypriots migrate for many reasons. The other thing, you migrate to Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, you are not going back to Limassol. The reasons are many. And they won't be going back because Cyprus is Paradise or Cyprus has better lifestyle because that isn't the case. You are way behind in terms of sun, beaches, nature and lifestyle. Australia and the US offer so much more for migrants. Things Cyprus can never offer. Things like A Grade medical attention, education, parks, careers, and diversity.

And here is the kicker. Australians are very cultural people. We enjoy the arts, and the theater. Our cuisine, and our wine is up there with France and Italy. Australians are light years ahead in terms of culture.

[B25]

.... if the Banking collapse that happened in Cyprus occurred in the USA or Australia, there would be inquests going on for decades and people and politicians would be in jail. There is no way there would be no blood let. In the USA, they are trying to impeach a POTUS. They have impeached one before in their history (Nixon). Can this happen in Cyprus? No it can't. It will never happen in Cyprus. Abosolutely Correct.

In Cyprus, little people get done over time and time again. No one cares. The elites have a Golden Parachute and will always escape. There is no transparency, and no one important will be held as accountable.

... it's very close to other tin pots like Zimbabwe, because a lot of people have worked all their lives and went to Cyprus and they got done over. They lost everything. There is no justice in Cyprus and you won't find it if you tried. Now imagine something like this occurring in Australia or USA. Lot's of new arseholes would be ripped. Absolutely Correct.


I wouldn't say I hate Cyprus. I don't hate it. And I don't hate the people either. You poor bastards are victims of total ineptness and absolute total bullshit on a grand scale. I feel sorry for you all. But I do get angry when I am in Cyprus and have very low tolerance for the stupidity. I can never live there. I know this because I will end up in trouble. Absolutely Correct.

I don't often agree with Paphitis, but he has a very good point, this is a Banana Republic, there is no justice, the elite always win at the expense of the poorer people and basically the peasant mentality is everywhere, from driving, attitudes in government offices, schools and elsewhere.

Tell us please those that think they are in 'Paradise' who has even been punished for all the scandals this country has endured over the years, starting from the Stock Exchange, to the banking crisis, Mari, Co-op Collapse, Cyprus Airways etc etc etc. Basically, if you have the necessary meson and connections you're ok, otherwise you are f*cked.

In short this Banana Republic is run by 5 major law firms, 10 Sympetherous and 20 Koumbarous. If you are not in it, you can't win it!

Oh and what could be even more obvious that a Supreme court judge sitting on the bench when his kids law firm is acting for the crooked bankers (who actually get away with it!!!) say it all.

Anyway, we love the place, not the system, but since the system controls much of our lives, we can't help feeling let down big time. Anyone who thinks that Cyprus comes even close to the larger nations such as Aussie land, US and other advanced developed countries is completed deluded.

Should we even make mention of the traitors we have amongst us?? You c*nts know who you are!