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by **Get Real!** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:44 am

Paphitis wrote:One of my friends told me that the Russian Navy is pretty much the only one that has tug boats in toe because of the high possibility of mechanical failure.

I doubt a tug boat has large enough fuel tanks to traverse the oceans or even survive the waves Paphitis, so it’s most likely another stupid story made up in the west.

I think more than anything this thread exposes (for the umpteenth time :roll:

) how behind the news you are, how confused you are, and why you can never be taken seriously in debates.

by **Londonrake** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:01 am

For many years in the Soviet era a Russian tug was permanently on station near the Shetland islands. On its side, in large bright letters, was “Spaseniye” (Cyrillic of course) - Rescue. It sat there as a contingency for naval mishaps. Primarily submarine, as they regularly traversed the area into the Atlantic (and to off Faslane of course). We waved at each other many times

by **Get Real!** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:09 am

Londonrake wrote:For many years in the Soviet era a Russian tug was permanently on station near the Shetland islands. On its side, in large bright letters, was “Spaseniye” (Cyrillic of course) - Rescue. It sat there as a contingency for naval mishaps. Primarily submarine, as they regularly traversed the area into the Atlantic (and to off Faslane of course). We waved at each other many times

Well that sounds more reasonable but I can’t imagine a little tug boat following an aircraft carrier around wherever it goes... :lol:

by **Paphitis** » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:13 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:One of my friends told me that the Russian Navy is pretty much the only one that has tug boats in toe because of the high possibility of mechanical failure.

I doubt a tug boat has large enough fuel tanks to traverse the oceans or even survive the waves Paphitis, so it’s most likely another stupid story made up in the west.

I think more than anything this thread exposes (for the umpteenth time ) how behind the news you are, how confused you are, and why you can never be taken seriously in debates.

There are tug boats that can pull an Aircraft Carrier if need be. The are pretty powerful.

You can see them piloting USN Aircraft Carriers and massive Fuel Tankers through Sydney Harbour.

Look, I can’t help the fact that you are upset. But for me, this is comedy. The Russian Navy just isn’t up to scratch, and if they want to play with the big boys, they are giving g to be exposed as the joke they are. We are continuously told about Russia’s Super Weapons, but their Navy doesn’t have an Aircraft Carrier and their submarines are Death Traps. It’s like WW2 Japanese zero fighters that were mass produced without Aircraft Instruments and were mere flying shells. Walk on board Russian aircraft and you will see wires coming out from anywhere. :lol:

by **Paphitis** » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:15 am

Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:For many years in the Soviet era a Russian tug was permanently on station near the Shetland islands. On its side, in large bright letters, was “Spaseniye” (Cyrillic of course) - Rescue. It sat there as a contingency for naval mishaps. Primarily submarine, as they regularly traversed the area into the Atlantic (and to off Faslane of course). We waved at each other many times

Well that sounds more reasonable but I can’t imagine a little tug boat following an aircraft carrier around wherever it goes...

Except for the Kuznetsoff! :lol:

Oh and one of there accidents they had in Syria. :lol:

by **Get Real!** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:11 am

I wonder if anyone followed today’s financial news…

Chinese nationalism has finally kicked in as a result of Trumpanomics making an enemy out of Chinese citizens for the past year, which has resulted in i-phone sales plummeting fast.

The last straw was the stupid Canadian move to arrest Huawei's CFO and now America is going to reap the rewards of the reckless Trumpanomics starting with Apple Inc’s demise that went from a $1.1 trillion market cap in September down to $687 billion today, and this is only the beginning…

And the moral of this story is… never bite the hand that feeds you!

Apple Inc. became the only $1+ trillion market cap company thanks to the massive Chinese market that embraced Apple phones and paraphernalia, so when you start threatening and treating them like shit prepare to eat shit yourself!

Today they're concentrating on Apple Inc for obvious reasons, but by the end of the month it'll also be about GM, Ford and Chrysler.

The two billion strong multi-faceted Chinese bitch slap is gonna hurt… :lol:

by **Paphitis** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:17 am

No one cares. Apple is Apple. They will survive.

As to the CFO of Hawaii or whatever their name is (I thought it was the 49th State of USA), well they will need to answer to some alleged criminal behaviour related to American IP and Patents.

China has been pushing these frontiers for a long time, now the chickens are coming home to roost. It is a good thing they are not out of our reach to answer to any wrongdoings!

Apple isn’t above the law either.

TESLA had a big hit too because they failed to meet their targets, but all will be good in the end.

by **Londonrake** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:31 pm

Isn't it a chicken/egg thing? The Chinese economy's taking a dive. Apple (not the only US conglomerate affected) sells less products. Apple takes a dive, as does the Dow/Nasdaq.

Ultimately, I suspect an all out trade war would be a pox on everybody's house. Talks are being mooted. Seems like a good idea to me.