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Postby Oracle » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:13 am

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Viewpoint wrote: ... I agree 100%, its this shit Cyprus is Greek or we want to gift Cyprus to Greece which bring out the worst in us at your loss. Time more GCs realized this island is not Greek nor Turkish.


Will the Turk-TCs ever realise this island is not Turkish?

I think the man made himself perfectly CLEAR with his post above so what are you shit stirring for?


Read it again ... he implied it was only the GCs who need to realise this! Considering the island is now half Turkish thanks to the TCs, I think that is a bit rich. And have a look above, he is the one who wrote Cyprus is Turkish ... not just here, but all over the forum !
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:18 am

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: ... I agree 100%, its this shit Cyprus is Greek or we want to gift Cyprus to Greece which bring out the worst in us at your loss. Time more GCs realized this island is not Greek nor Turkish.


Will the Turk-TCs ever realise this island is not Turkish?

I think the man made himself perfectly CLEAR with his post above so what are you shit stirring for?


Read it again ... he implied it was only the GCs who need to realise this! Considering the island is now half Turkish thanks to the TCs, I think that is a bit rich. And have a look above, he is the one who wrote Cyprus is Turkish ... not just here, but all over the forum !

I got more Cypriot patriotism from VP with a single post than you could ever manage with your Greek nationalistic tossings in a whole year Oracle, so bugger off!
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:20 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: ... I agree 100%, its this shit Cyprus is Greek or we want to gift Cyprus to Greece which bring out the worst in us at your loss. Time more GCs realized this island is not Greek nor Turkish.


Will the Turk-TCs ever realise this island is not Turkish?

I think the man made himself perfectly CLEAR with his post above so what are you shit stirring for?


Read it again ... he implied it was only the GCs who need to realise this! Considering the island is now half Turkish thanks to the TCs, I think that is a bit rich. And have a look above, he is the one who wrote Cyprus is Turkish ... not just here, but all over the forum !

I got more Cypriot patriotism from VP with a single post than you could ever manage with your Greek nationalistic tossings in a whole year Oracle, so bugger off!


Get Real I have never heard TCs say that the island is Turkish because Gcs also have rights to this island as their home but GCs always claim thisis island Greek and that we should leave thats why we feel we have to come back with a response just like I did with Christine. Theres a big difference here enosis the whole island taksim only part of the island.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:27 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: ... I agree 100%, its this shit Cyprus is Greek or we want to gift Cyprus to Greece which bring out the worst in us at your loss. Time more GCs realized this island is not Greek nor Turkish.


Will the Turk-TCs ever realise this island is not Turkish?

I think the man made himself perfectly CLEAR with his post above so what are you shit stirring for?


Read it again ... he implied it was only the GCs who need to realise this! Considering the island is now half Turkish thanks to the TCs, I think that is a bit rich. And have a look above, he is the one who wrote Cyprus is Turkish ... not just here, but all over the forum !

I got more Cypriot patriotism from VP with a single post than you could ever manage with your Greek nationalistic tossings in a whole year Oracle, so bugger off!


Get Real I have never heard TCs say that the island is Turkish because Gcs also have rights to this island as their home but GCs always claim thisis island Greek and that we should leave thats why we feel we have to come back with a response just like I did with Christine. Theres a big difference here enosis the whole island taksim only part of the island.

The more time I spend in here the more I see it, so I’ve made it my business to fight it. Oh, I see the Cyprus problem alright…
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Postby Piratis » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:28 am

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Piratis wrote:Cyprus is whatever the Cypriot people want it to be, and can belong wherever the Cypriot people want it to belong.

E.g., most Cypriots believe that Cyprus is European. We apply for EU, we get accepted, and we are part of EU. Do you see any problem in this democratic process? Maybe we should ask the Turks to tell us if Cyprus is European or not, and if we can be part of EU or not? Do the Turks take permission from the Greeks (or the Greek minority in Turkey) to decide anything about what Turkey is and where Turkey should belong?


Now you are playing stupid entering the EU with no risks is one thing becoming a Greek country is totally different and full of dangers discriminaiton and hardship ask the Turks of Thrace or Crete.


All the risks are due to the Turkish aggression.

Since the wars between Greece and Turkey ended, your minority in Greece has been increasing and on average the standards of living of your minority in mainland Greece is higher than the standards of living of the average Turkish citizen. It is the Greek minority in Turkey which has greatly suffered and their numbers reduced dramatically.

Taking it a step further, union with EU means union with Greece as well. So Cyprus is currently united with Greece already. This union not only didn't harm the TCs, but on the contrary it was very beneficial for them.

So in the end of the day, the only excuse that you have against the democratic process I described above, is imaginary scenarios and nothing more.

So as I said above, Cyprus is whatever the Cypriot people want it to be, and can belong wherever the Cypriot people want it to belong, and the Turks should start respecting this.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:33 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: ... I agree 100%, its this shit Cyprus is Greek or we want to gift Cyprus to Greece which bring out the worst in us at your loss. Time more GCs realized this island is not Greek nor Turkish.


Will the Turk-TCs ever realise this island is not Turkish?

I think the man made himself perfectly CLEAR with his post above so what are you shit stirring for?


Read it again ... he implied it was only the GCs who need to realise this! Considering the island is now half Turkish thanks to the TCs, I think that is a bit rich. And have a look above, he is the one who wrote Cyprus is Turkish ... not just here, but all over the forum !

I got more Cypriot patriotism from VP with a single post than you could ever manage with your Greek nationalistic tossings in a whole year Oracle, so bugger off!


I think it's his finger you got stuck somewhere ... Your judgement has been off for some time now GR! Maybe VP thinks he's in with a chance ...
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Postby Piratis » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:38 am

Theres a big difference here enosis the whole island taksim only part of the island.


The difference is that Enosis would make an island where the vast majority of the population is Greek, part of the Greek Republic. What more natural than that? It is the same like joining the EU. Most Cypriots are and feel European, so we join the EU. Does it mean that because a small minority of Cypriots are not or don't feel European that Cyprus is not European and it can not join the EU?

Taksim on the other hand would make Turkish a territory where the vast majority of the population is Greek, by means of murder and ethnic cleansing. How can you call "Turkish" a territory where 5 out of every 6 inhabitants are actually Greek, and have been so for 1000s of years?

A territory where 5 out of 6 inhabitants are Greek (and have been so for 1000s of years), is obviously Greek. And this is the case for the whole Cyprus. Otherwise Asia Minor, which is made by less than 80% Turks, can not be Turkish, and it shouldn't have been called Turkey.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:58 am

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: ... I agree 100%, its this shit Cyprus is Greek or we want to gift Cyprus to Greece which bring out the worst in us at your loss. Time more GCs realized this island is not Greek nor Turkish.


Will the Turk-TCs ever realise this island is not Turkish?

I think the man made himself perfectly CLEAR with his post above so what are you shit stirring for?

Read it again ... he implied it was only the GCs who need to realise this! Considering the island is now half Turkish thanks to the TCs, I think that is a bit rich. And have a look above, he is the one who wrote Cyprus is Turkish ... not just here, but all over the forum !

I got more Cypriot patriotism from VP with a single post than you could ever manage with your Greek nationalistic tossings in a whole year Oracle, so bugger off!

I think it's his finger you got stuck somewhere ... Your judgement has been off for some time now GR! Maybe VP thinks he's in with a chance ...

Oracle, all I’m going to say is that I’m starting to get really sick of the likes of you, Yialousa, Epsilon, and some other pieces of Greek shit who are a constant nuisance to Cyprus!

God help me, I’m just not going let you ruin my country anymore… :evil:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:40 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: ... I agree 100%, its this shit Cyprus is Greek or we want to gift Cyprus to Greece which bring out the worst in us at your loss. Time more GCs realized this island is not Greek nor Turkish.


Will the Turk-TCs ever realise this island is not Turkish?

I think the man made himself perfectly CLEAR with his post above so what are you shit stirring for?

Read it again ... he implied it was only the GCs who need to realise this! Considering the island is now half Turkish thanks to the TCs, I think that is a bit rich. And have a look above, he is the one who wrote Cyprus is Turkish ... not just here, but all over the forum !

I got more Cypriot patriotism from VP with a single post than you could ever manage with your Greek nationalistic tossings in a whole year Oracle, so bugger off!

I think it's his finger you got stuck somewhere ... Your judgement has been off for some time now GR! Maybe VP thinks he's in with a chance ...

Oracle, all I’m going to say is that I’m starting to get really sick of the likes of you, Yialousa, Epsilon, and some other pieces of Greek shit who are a constant nuisance to Cyprus!

God help me, I’m just not going let you ruin my country anymore… :evil:


You're wasting your breath with me. I don't give a monkey's for your delusional self-importance. Go and impress some newcomer with your fire and brimstone parody of Miltiades. Just like him you are incapable of seeing the real enemy, so you invent scenarios ...

Stick to discussing debates and open your eyes to your Turkish neighbours, who are the only ones ruining Cyprus.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:08 am

I wish I could return to Famagusta with the same rights and living conditions of the Turks of Thrace.

Some of us have been up there, more than once, and know exactly how the Turks, and Pomaks, and Roma moslems of Thrace live. Most GCs expelled from the north would love to return and live like that. As would the GCs of Karpasia no doubt.

But that is not the point. The point is that the TCs leadership has sold Cyprus out big time. The settler situation proves this beyond all doubt. It is a uniquely treasonous act in the history of Cyprus which cannot compare to the charge that GC fanatics want to "gift" the island to Greece. There has been no act to do so in the last 35 years. The recent past and the present prove which side is really Cypriot and which is not.
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