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[DT.]

Well the Dow Jones industrial since 92 has netted 626% return. Your managers would have done better if they’d just bought an index tracker and paid back your fees.

That is an option that they offer. They offer the index tracker as an investment option.

And I suppose if I had a Dow Jones Index Tracker since 1992, I would have made 692%. But ordinary shares have been doubling on average every 5 to 7 years too.

You can get an index tracker from anywhere...no reason to pay these guys fees for following an index.

[Paphitis]

You don't get it do you?

Your chances should be a lot better than 50%. When you do your research, and pick your timing, you should make a gain more often than not.

You are not going to buy into a stock that is struggling.

And if you are going for long term growth, your chances should be somehere between 80 to 90%, maybe more.

Plus, a stock can only go up or down. If it goes down, it will only go down a bit. You are not placing a winner takes all bet.

Did you start the nonsense again? SHOULD and WOULD does not reflect reality regarding individual traders and statistics don't lie.
Read and learn.
Most traders will lose regardless of what methods they employ.

Really? If most traders lose, the markets would be dead.

You don't go back more more punishment.

The statistics don't lie alright.

Balanced Funds = 8% per annum
Aggressive = 12% per annum.

I am telling you from my personal experience that my fund from 1992 till today has netted approximately 12% per annum average.

And the above are pretty conservative approaches to long term investing.

Traders can do a lot better than that.

Nope! 95% fail and get out, the remaining 5% succeed and continue.
You are confusing the number of traders with the market annual performance.
Typical confused Paphitis as per usual.

No they bloody well don't!

The only people that fail are the posers and pretenders and those who have no clue.

Traders do not fail.

There are a tonne pf brokerage firms and traders out there that have been doing it for years and many of them are very wealthy and powerful people.

And their knowledge is available to the rest of us, at a fee.

[miltiades]

I have fancied Galapagos for some time now and have researched this Belgium based biochem company extensively. Likewise I think so did many investors. I was aiming to buy just 100 shares should the price fall below 80 euros.
Krohn's desease affects hundreds of thousands of people across the world, as yet there is no cure, just control. I believe that Galapagos new breakthrough will not only control the desease but also cure it.
Galapagos has now reached phase 3, the final stage leading to obtaining the obligatory licence to facilitate release on to the market of least 7 new treatments.
Having read further I shall now invest first thing Monday morning at 10am Cyprus time. It closed yesterday at 88.90€.
This is not a stock to speculate over a week or two unless the price rockets.
My instinct tells me that it will reach its September price , this year, which stood at over 104 €.
I first mentioned Galapagos on November 4th when it stood at 93.74 €. Was tempted to buy then , waited a bit, it has come down, not as much that I wad anticipating but still down some 5€.

[miltiades]

Galapagos is a clinical-stage biotechnology company, involved in the discovery and development of small-molecule medicines. The company's product candidate portfolio includes Filgotinib, a JAK1 inhibitor to treat rheumatoid arthritis, Crohn's disease, and ulcerative colitis; novel therapies in cystic fibrosis (a chronic disease that affects the lungs and digestive system); GLPG1690, a selective autotaxin inhibitor with potential application in idiopathic pulmonary disease; GLPG1972 to treat osteoarthritis; and MOR106 to treat atopic dermatitis.

[Paphitis]

Well the Dow Jones industrial since 92 has netted 626% return. Your managers would have done better if they’d just bought an index tracker and paid back your fees.

That is an option that they offer. They offer the index tracker as an investment option.

And I suppose if I had a Dow Jones Index Tracker since 1992, I would have made 692%. But ordinary shares have been doubling on average every 5 to 7 years too.

You can get an index tracker from anywhere...no reason to pay these guys fees for following an index.

The thing with paying these fees DT - In Australia, every working man, woman and child has a fund account.

Most people are astute enough to go in their relevant industry run fund which has very low fees (Around $100 per year) as the industry fund is usually run by a union or industry body. For example, teachers have their find, police another, nurses have theirs, and pilots have their own too. From what I understand, these funds are aggregated and run by the commercial providers anyway.

If you do not elect to go with an industry fund, you go with a commercial provider and which charge more than $100 per annum. You would go with The Commercial Bank as an example, which charge about $600 per annum.

They all offer the same products for a fee. they also have trackers.

I have a financial advisor which I get some major advice, and he was the person that suggested to invest in a tracker but I preferred not to. It was really more of a case that he mentioned they were available and this is how they performed over the years. The concept is of interest to me.

I could still do it one day, but we are in a bear market right now. The timing for those products is not good. Maybe when the Bull starts raging again. Maybe in 2 years time.

Right now its time to bunker down and head for the Gold and Banking stocks. The biggest enemy to the market right now is uncertainty.

[miltiades]

Crypto currencies have been crashing over the last week or so, none more than bitcoin, now below €4000 .
Ripple XRP, now trading at just under 0.35$,
Heavy selling in the States as investors who had a field day last year with digital currencies now have to pay capital gains tax on their profits from last year. Im in no way panicked, since investing in Ripple was not a short term in and out.
It looks as if I shall stay with Ripple a little while longer.

[Kikapu]

I am waiting for General Electric (GE) to go down below $1 Dollar a Share ($7.52 a share now) before buying in big time. It might take another 6 month before getting there, but I have the time to wait.

[Pyrpolizer]

Crypto currencies have been crashing over the last week or so, none more than bitcoin, now below €4000 .
Ripple XRP, now trading at just under 0.35$,
Heavy selling in the States as investors who had a field day last year with digital currencies now have to pay capital gains tax on their profits from last year. Im in no way panicked, since investing in Ripple was not a short term in and out.
It looks as if I shall stay with Ripple a little while longer.

This means you already lost more than what you gained so far.
I won't be glad to see you lose even more but it was predictable, if only you had taken the time to measure it's volatility, over a 6 month period plus watch the trend over a 1 year period. Or just use programs that do it for you. This comes from a guy you think knows "not a fing about farkets".

May I remind you of what I told you here

The only thing left to ever prove you had any credibility is to sell sell Ripple by the end of December.I feel you are already shit scared of that and you will run out the soonest possible most probably with a loss. Your credibility started counting it's days Oldboy. You have 30 days left.

That was a bet I knew I would never lose. And here's another prediction: Ripple will end up at about 0.28 by the end of December. You have been warned! Do as you please.

[Paphitis]

Crypto currencies have been crashing over the last week or so, none more than bitcoin, now below €4000 .
Ripple XRP, now trading at just under 0.35$,
Heavy selling in the States as investors who had a field day last year with digital currencies now have to pay capital gains tax on their profits from last year. Im in no way panicked, since investing in Ripple was not a short term in and out.
It looks as if I shall stay with Ripple a little while longer.

This means you already lost more than what you gained so far.
I won't be glad to see you lose even more but it was predictable, if only you had taken the time to measure it's volatility, over a 6 month period plus watch the trend over a 1 year period. Or just use programs that do it for you. This comes from a guy you think knows "not a fing about farkets".

May I remind you of what I told you here

The only thing left to ever prove you had any credibility is to sell sell Ripple by the end of December.I feel you are already shit scared of that and you will run out the soonest possible most probably with a loss. Your credibility started counting it's days Oldboy. You have 30 days left.

That was a bet I knew I would never lose. And here's another prediction: Ripple will end up at about 0.28 by the end of December. You have been warned! Do as you please.

I wouldn't be so sure if i were you.

https://walletinvestor.com/forecast/xrp-prediction

And he hasn't lost anything until he sells.

I would be a little upbeat about Ripple that has developed Open Coin, which is a BitCoin payment network like PayPal.

Not my choice of stock, but you just can't tell with these companies.

[miltiades]

Crypto currencies have been crashing over the last week or so, none more than bitcoin, now below €4000 .
Ripple XRP, now trading at just under 0.35$,
Heavy selling in the States as investors who had a field day last year with digital currencies now have to pay capital gains tax on their profits from last year. Im in no way panicked, since investing in Ripple was not a short term in and out.
It looks as if I shall stay with Ripple a little while longer.

This means you already lost more than what you gained so far.
I won't be glad to see you lose even more but it was predictable, if only you had taken the time to measure it's volatility, over a 6 month period plus watch the trend over a 1 year period. Or just use programs that do it for you. This comes from a guy you think knows "not a fing about farkets".

May I remind you of what I told you here

The only thing left to ever prove you had any credibility is to sell sell Ripple by the end of December.I feel you are already shit scared of that and you will run out the soonest possible most probably with a loss. Your credibility started counting it's days Oldboy. You have 30 days left.

That was a bet I knew I would never lose. And here's another prediction: Ripple will end up at about 0.28 by the end of December. You have been warned! Do as you please.

Boy, I haven't lost a cent. I still have my shares and will perhaps get some more.
I did say this is not one to speculate on within a few weeks. Let someone whi knows about trading give me advice, you know fuck all. A virgin advising someone how best to ....fuck !!