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[cyprusgrump]

Usually, media releases are 1 or 2 paragraphs with a snazzy headline.

PR professionals, like my wife do not sit around publishing articles for the media. Not even when she was a press sec for a political party would she do this.

But she would give them plenty of one liners. That is a media release. She baits them.

She does this because she was a journalist and she knows what they want and she was good at using them to achieve an outcome for her bosses.

That BBC article was not a media release. That might have been a product that was sparked initially from a media release (there is no way of being certain about that) but media releases don't come in that format.

Oh don't be daft...

I know a bit about PR... you send a press release out in the hope that it will be published and the public will be educated about what you can offer... It is like advertising but free...

Single issue campaign groups (gambling, booze, fags, drugs, fat, salt, etc.) issue press releases in the hope that the media will publish them - and like-minded media always do.

Even if the data doesn't prove the claim of the release, media outlets like the BBC will invariably publish without questioning (assuming the campaign in question fits their agenda). I can literally point you to hundreds of examples...

I can't believe that a supposedly intelligent professional bloke like you would take this stuff in the MSM as read?

But then again, you've argued black is white over an article in the CM of all places for months so I suppose yes, you really are that naive...

[RichardB]

Wasted education !! Mate as I said previously you know fuck all about trading. You obviously traded on the Cyprus market where everyone knew nothing and lost everything. Stick to ....kolokasi !!
Galapagos I tipped some days back. Did not want to invest, should have done with hindsight.
Im now only on Ripple , biting my time, who knows where Galapagos will be next week.
Over the weekend will decide on my next move. In the meantime you just concentrate on .....kolo. klasi !!!

I set up my own business a long time ago and I am proud about it.
It provided me enough money to live comfortably for long years to come.
You didn't set up ANYTHING!
That's why at this age of 72 you still have the urge to prove you can make money the easy way by gambling in the stock markets.
Unfortunately there's no cure. You will carry this disease until the day you will kick the bucket.

Im setting up a ....driving school starting in Limassol, will concentrate on a comprehensive agenda dealing with the as yet unknown purpose of the little stick on the side of the steering wheel, will then deal with Red lights, their purpose and what it means when the red is on. Im also considering the introduction of ...donkeys as the prime mode of transport, one has been reserved for you. My god, you set up your own business ? How impressive, what business, a kafenes or a gambling joint ?
Mate you are full of skata, just a little kid pretending to be a man. So, you are adamant that the Stock exchanges are nothing more than gambling joints !!
What a blithering fucking Plonker.!!

You can't hide your envy can you?
Let's assume it was a Kafenes, or a gambling joint.
What did you SET UP yourself flamboyant old crow?

Nothing wrong with setting up a kafenion ....kafeegees rule

[Paphitis]

Usually, media releases are 1 or 2 paragraphs with a snazzy headline.

PR professionals, like my wife do not sit around publishing articles for the media. Not even when she was a press sec for a political party would she do this.

But she would give them plenty of one liners. That is a media release. She baits them.

She does this because she was a journalist and she knows what they want and she was good at using them to achieve an outcome for her bosses.

That BBC article was not a media release. That might have been a product that was sparked initially from a media release (there is no way of being certain about that) but media releases don't come in that format.

Oh don't be daft...

I know a bit about PR... you send a press release out in the hope that it will be published and the public will be educated about what you can offer... It is like advertising but free...

Single issue campaign groups (gambling, booze, fags, drugs, fat, salt, etc.) issue press releases in the hope that the media will publish them - and like-minded media always do.

Even if the data doesn't prove the claim of the release, media outlets like the BBC will invariably publish without questioning (assuming the campaign in question fits their agenda). I can literally point you to hundreds of examples...

I can't believe that a supposedly intelligent professional bloke like you would take this stuff in the MSM as read?

But then again, you've argued black is white over an article in the CM of all places for months so I suppose yes, you really are that naive...

Well you are not very good.

No the professional PR people do not send an article. What they usually send is a one paragraph statement with a headline as a bait for an article.

No media is going to publish an article from a media release.

A press sec or a PR person does not have the time to write the articles for the media. They give them a little over embellished snippet and sometimes they just pick up the phone to their media networks.

[cyprusgrump]

Usually, media releases are 1 or 2 paragraphs with a snazzy headline.

PR professionals, like my wife do not sit around publishing articles for the media. Not even when she was a press sec for a political party would she do this.

But she would give them plenty of one liners. That is a media release. She baits them.

She does this because she was a journalist and she knows what they want and she was good at using them to achieve an outcome for her bosses.

That BBC article was not a media release. That might have been a product that was sparked initially from a media release (there is no way of being certain about that) but media releases don't come in that format.

Oh don't be daft...

I know a bit about PR... you send a press release out in the hope that it will be published and the public will be educated about what you can offer... It is like advertising but free...

Single issue campaign groups (gambling, booze, fags, drugs, fat, salt, etc.) issue press releases in the hope that the media will publish them - and like-minded media always do.

Even if the data doesn't prove the claim of the release, media outlets like the BBC will invariably publish without questioning (assuming the campaign in question fits their agenda). I can literally point you to hundreds of examples...

I can't believe that a supposedly intelligent professional bloke like you would take this stuff in the MSM as read?

But then again, you've argued black is white over an article in the CM of all places for months so I suppose yes, you really are that naive...

Well you are not very good.

No the professional PR people do not send an article. What they usually send is a one paragraph statement with a headline as a bait for an article.

No media is going to publish an article from a media release.

But they do it all the time!

And I've just proven it beyond all doubt!

Shall I give you another example to humiliate you even further?

And guess what, even the article in the CM (a press release) was run by the BBC!

[Paphitis]

Usually, media releases are 1 or 2 paragraphs with a snazzy headline.

PR professionals, like my wife do not sit around publishing articles for the media. Not even when she was a press sec for a political party would she do this.

But she would give them plenty of one liners. That is a media release. She baits them.

She does this because she was a journalist and she knows what they want and she was good at using them to achieve an outcome for her bosses.

That BBC article was not a media release. That might have been a product that was sparked initially from a media release (there is no way of being certain about that) but media releases don't come in that format.

Oh don't be daft...

I know a bit about PR... you send a press release out in the hope that it will be published and the public will be educated about what you can offer... It is like advertising but free...

Single issue campaign groups (gambling, booze, fags, drugs, fat, salt, etc.) issue press releases in the hope that the media will publish them - and like-minded media always do.

Even if the data doesn't prove the claim of the release, media outlets like the BBC will invariably publish without questioning (assuming the campaign in question fits their agenda). I can literally point you to hundreds of examples...

I can't believe that a supposedly intelligent professional bloke like you would take this stuff in the MSM as read?

But then again, you've argued black is white over an article in the CM of all places for months so I suppose yes, you really are that naive...

Well you are not very good.

No the professional PR people do not send an article. What they usually send is a one paragraph statement with a headline as a bait for an article.

No media is going to publish an article from a media release.

But they do it all the time!

And I've just proven it beyond all doubt!

Shall I give you another example to humiliate you even further?

And guess what, even the article in the CM (a press release) was run by the BBC!

Well then, the BBC fucked up.

You said that the BBC did not write this article. And now they did.

Fine! Provide the link that the BBC wrote that article.

[cyprusgrump]

Well then, the BBC fucked up.

You said that the BBC did not write this article. And now they did.

Fine! Provide the link that the BBC wrote that article.

That doesn't even make sense? What are you on about...? When did I say they wrote it...?

What time is it there, are you on the drink...?

[Paphitis]

Well then, the BBC fucked up.

You said that the BBC did not write this article. And now they did.

Fine! Provide the link that the BBC wrote that article.

That doesn't even make sense? What are you on about...? When did I say they wrote it...?

What time is it there, are you on the drink...?

You said this:

And guess what, even the article in the CM (a press release) was run by the BBC!

Provide me a link that the BBC ran the same story because I find that hard to believe.

And no, I am not on the drink. I finished work at 2AM and need to maintain myn circadian rhythm for nights.

I certainly do not drink more than you.

[Pyrpolizer]

Wasted education !! Mate as I said previously you know fuck all about trading. You obviously traded on the Cyprus market where everyone knew nothing and lost everything. Stick to ....kolokasi !!
Galapagos I tipped some days back. Did not want to invest, should have done with hindsight.
Im now only on Ripple , biting my time, who knows where Galapagos will be next week.
Over the weekend will decide on my next move. In the meantime you just concentrate on .....kolo. klasi !!!

I set up my own business a long time ago and I am proud about it.
It provided me enough money to live comfortably for long years to come.
You didn't set up ANYTHING!
That's why at this age of 72 you still have the urge to prove you can make money the easy way by gambling in the stock markets.
Unfortunately there's no cure. You will carry this disease until the day you will kick the bucket.

Im setting up a ....driving school starting in Limassol, will concentrate on a comprehensive agenda dealing with the as yet unknown purpose of the little stick on the side of the steering wheel, will then deal with Red lights, their purpose and what it means when the red is on. Im also considering the introduction of ...donkeys as the prime mode of transport, one has been reserved for you. My god, you set up your own business ? How impressive, what business, a kafenes or a gambling joint ?
Mate you are full of skata, just a little kid pretending to be a man. So, you are adamant that the Stock exchanges are nothing more than gambling joints !!
What a blithering fucking Plonker.!!

You can't hide your envy can you?
Let's assume it was a Kafenes, or a gambling joint.
What did you SET UP yourself flamboyant old crow?

People need to earn the money before they invest in the stock market.

Your question is unfair. Usually, the biggest investors are middle class people who work hard for their money.

Do you still insist this guy is "investing"?? He admitted it it over and over again he is speculating. Speculative trading at the stock markets is gambling with a mere 50-50 chance to gain or lose. Google it.

[Paphitis]

Do you still insist this guy is "investing"?? He admitted it it over and over again he is speculating. Speculative trading at the stock markets is gambling with a mere 50-50 chance to gain or lose. Google it.

Which guy? Milti?

Yes Milti is investing. He is trading to be more precise. Short term trading.

Big Fund Managers go for long term growth. The 2 styles are completely different.

Trading is more risky. But the returns are much higher too. You saw Milti make a few hundred Euros in just a few days.

I call it investing for a few reasons.

Milti picked a pretty good and rock solid stock in Tom Tom. I believed this was an excellent pick on his behalf.

he also picked Ripple. I do not know what Ripple do and I haven't looked into it and therefore do not know if they are good. But Milti told us he did his research and looked into it. Therefore, he is claiming to have made an informed decision. Therefore, it is short term trading and investing.

Speculators are those guys who go for the start ups and the penny dreadfuls. And I wouldn't call that gambling either because these guys usually win big.

This isn't like going to the casino and betting on red and black.

High end managed funds are a different kettle of fish altogether. They go for the long term returns.

But if you what to be specific as per the definition. A property investor who buys a property is also speculating. But he is not gambling. He is trying to achieve a profit and a return on that property over time. It could also go the other way, but that too is not gambling.

[cyprusgrump]

Well then, the BBC fucked up.

You said that the BBC did not write this article. And now they did.

Fine! Provide the link that the BBC wrote that article.

That doesn't even make sense? What are you on about...? When did I say they wrote it...?

What time is it there, are you on the drink...?

You said this:

And guess what, even the article in the CM (a press release) was run by the BBC!

Provide me a link that the BBC ran the same story because I find that hard to believe.

It is very simple to do (if you are not a bit dim )

1) Go to the Cyprus Mail Article

2) Pick a sample of text at random (I chose, "A 95-year-old British World War II veteran, Ray Woolley, broke his own record" from the first paragraph.

3) Search the Interwebz.

4) Hey presto! Hundreds of articles that contain the same text, and on the BBC too! (because it came from the same press release)...