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[Pyrpolizer]

You will always be the 2nd choice compared to native Americans...
How will you feel if e.g there's a chance to be fleet manager, and while you are the most qualified, a less qualified native American gets the promotion just because of that?

You can't be that ignorant and stupid...

Hey spell checker of the forum. I didn't say Native Americans, I said native Americans which means native citizens. Capitalization matters.
I wonder how more stupid could you be to not even sense it
Go amend your spell checker now.

There’s only ONE meaning for “native Americans” and that ALWAYS refers to America’s indigenous population regardless of how it may be capitalized.

Non-indigenous Americans can be referred to as “the locals”, “local citizens”, “American citizens” or just plain “Americans”.

If you ask a white American if he is a “native American” he’ll probably punch you in the face for implying that he is a “brownie”!

Why don’t you paste your sentence here at this online spell checker and click “check” to see what happens…

It automatically capitalizes “native” as it should do because there’s only ONE type of “native American”, the indigenous type:

http://www.reverso.net/spell-checker/en ... g-grammar/

Now, admit your folly and be quiet...

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Listen spell checker.
Google it and shut up.
I am not interested in stupid discussions so if all that matters to you is spelling go see your doctor again.
https://i.stack.imgur.com/qPS1n.jpg

[Get Real!]

Listen spell checker.
Google it and shut up.
I am not interested in stupid discussions so if all that matters to you is spelling go see your doctor again.

Look idiot, there are only three ways to write this...

1. native Americans = Indigenous Americans spelt wrong. <-- that's what you did

2. Native Americans = Indigenous Americans spelt right.

3. “Native Americans”, “native Americans”, "native americans" = An acceptable metaphor for non-indigenous citizens via inverted commas. <--- that's what you wanted

So admit your folly and be quiet.


PS: Enna fais kala…

[Pyrpolizer]

Ok for the last time read and learn:
Notice the capitalization.
The term native American does exist and refers to people who are citizens.
Wonder what took you so long to figure it out.


I do suspect you mean to say ‘Native American,’ people commonly known as Indians. The other answers cover that meaning. This answer is for lower case ‘native.’

The term ‘native American,’ aka native born American, applies to people who are American citizens at birth (born inside the US borders or to American parents abroad.)

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-diffe ... an-citizen

Between 1982 and 1993, most American manuals of style came to agree that "color terms" referring to ethnic groups should be capitalized as proper names, as well as Native American

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Am ... ontroversy

Go to bed...

[Kikapu]

My understanding is that the E-3 is pretty much the best VISA available, and the E-3 is only being granted to Australians at this point so there must be some pretty big bilateral agreements between USA and Australia and apparently it was all part of the FTA.

I always took the E-3 as being the so called "Green" card. Not sure if there is another category.

But E-3 trumps H-1B from what I can gather, because it does not expire and renews automatically.

I wasn‘t aware there was a E-3 visas for Ausies only. Lucky for you as it cuts down being in a long que along with the H1B visas, especially if it also leads to a Green card. You already have a head start.

Apparently so. Looks like the Yanks are rolling the red carpet out for Aussies. Not even the Brits and Canadians are entitled to E-3. I feel privileged.

I have no idea what this Green card is. I always thought the E-3 was a Green Card.

Anyhow, it is permanent residency for the entire family and I can stay for as long as I like.

I think the USA and Australia should just declare ENOSIS and get it over and done with already.

I think there is a bit of a bromance going on between USA and Australia.

Green card is not a visa of any kind, but a legal permit to reside and work in the USA permenantly, and should you leave the US more than a year, you will lose the right to retain the green card. Generally, green card are issued to those who are married to American citizens which also leads them to gain citizenship after 3 years of marriage. Green cards are also issued those who are also married to other green card holders with certain conditions. Also given to illegal aliens by amnesty programs, or by winning the lottery or direct immigration selection.

However, it sounds to me that the E-3 is a working and residing visa and not a permit in the form of a green card. To become a citizen of the US, you need to have a green card first. Sounds to me like, once you have worked a certain period in the US under E-3 visa, perhaps 5 years, you may be able to apply for a Green Card for yourself and then to your family afterwards. There was a time spouses of H1B visa holders were not able to work in the US, but I believe that has been changed, but not certain, but I don‘t know if those rules also apply to the E-3 visa holders.

I am sure you can stay as long as you want in the US under E-3 visa program as long as your employer is sponsoring you under the E-3 program. If you left that employer you may well lose your E-3 visa unless another employer can hire you under the same E-3 visa program. Green card holders are not under the same restrictions as they don’t even need to have a job. I would be really interested to know all the relevant rules under the E-3 program which I’m sure you have already investigated. I am just thinking out loud and not really know anything about the E-3 visa rules and whether it is an another name for a green card.

[Get Real!]

Ok for the last time read and learn:
Notice the capitalization.
The term native American does exist and refers to people who are citizens.
Wonder what took you so long to figure it out.


I do suspect you mean to say ‘Native American,’ people commonly known as Indians. The other answers cover that meaning. This answer is for lower case ‘native.’

The term ‘native American,’ aka native born American, applies to people who are American citizens at birth (born inside the US borders or to American parents abroad.)

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-diffe ... an-citizen

Between 1982 and 1993, most American manuals of style came to agree that "color terms" referring to ethnic groups should be capitalized as proper names, as well as Native American

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Am ... ontroversy

Go to bed...

Only in your delusions...

It's pretty clear in this world that "Native American" is the indigenous Indian while "American citizen" is used for all Americans.

As for "native American" (lowercase) it is nothing but a SPELLING MISTAKE!

Believe it and quit making a dick of yourself...

[Kikapu]

In the US, whenever we use the term “Native Americans”, it is ALWAYS describing “Red Indians” however that term no longer being politically acceptable, hence using the term “native Americans” instead.

[Get Real!]

In the US, whenever we use the term “Native Americans”, it is ALWAYS describing “Red Indians” however that term no longer being politically acceptable, hence using the term “native Americans” instead.

And how did the non-Indian locals refer to themselves?

[Kikapu]

In the US, whenever we use the term “Native Americans”, it is ALWAYS describing “Red Indians” however that term no longer being politically acceptable, hence using the term “native Americans” instead.

And how did the non-Indian locals refer to themselves?

Basically as American citizens or an American.

Most native Americans are not American citizens, but “citizens” of the Indian nation in the tribe they belong to, which there are many different tribes. When I recently drove through Indian reservations, I was driving through sovereign Indian land where the state and US federal laws do not apply as they have their own laws.

[Pyrpolizer]

As for "native American" (lowercase) it is nothing but a SPELLING MISTAKE!

Says who? You?
My, my, are you trying to tell us you know better than those whose mother language is English?
Read and weep and then go to bed

The term ‘native American,’ aka native born American, applies to people who are American citizens at birth (born inside the US borders or to American parents abroad.)

[Get Real!]

As for "native American" (lowercase) it is nothing but a SPELLING MISTAKE!

Says who? You?
My, my, are you trying to tell us you know better than those whose mother language is English?
Read and weep and then go to bed

The term ‘native American,’ aka native born American, applies to people who are American citizens at birth (born inside the US borders or to American parents abroad.)

1. Kikapu (a former US resident) explains it to you.
2. The link to online software I supplied corrects your lower case proving that there is no second meaning by changing capitalization.
3. And last but not least, GR is telling you.

You tried to pass off a DUAL meaning of the phrase based on capitalization but you screwed up because whether America calls them the initial “Native Americans” or the newer and allegedly politically correct “native Americans” it is still referring to the same indigenous people to be found in the US and not all Americans.

Kikapu, also explains that Red Indians are not even US citizens but have some kind of autonomy making it even more impossible for White America to use the label “native Americans” with which to describe themselves!

It's over Pyro...