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[Pyrpolizer]

Thanks Kikapu, two more question.
a)Do you think you made it in the US or you just made a living like most people
b) I hope Paphitis won't take it as if I am talking behind his back, all I want is to get a 3rd party opinion:
From the little I got to know the Americans they seem to pretend they are dumb. No matter how good they are on something they will never boast about it. Chances are they would rather point to their wrong doings, e.g. saying "i messed this up" , "I screwed the whole thing", "I blundered" and such similar self derogating expressions.
However Paphitis (and myself -let the truth be told) is the exact opposite! How do you think will be treated if he ever settles in the US?

[Get Real!]

The idiot a day ago speaking to me...

You are dying to learn all about his life concerning education,financial status, age, marriage, sexual matters etc, otherwise you fail to comprehend anything.

And suddenly today...

Kikapu may I ask what kind of job you were doing in SF? I don't mean the exact description only whether you were working in the public sector or the private one, or perhaps a subsidiary of a Swiss company.

Thanks Kikapu, two more question.
a)Do you think you made it in the US or you just made a living like most people

Re maimouna...

[Pyrpolizer]

The idiot a day ago speaking to me...

You are dying to learn all about his life concerning education,financial status, age, marriage, sexual matters etc, otherwise you fail to comprehend anything.

And suddenly today...

Kikapu may I ask what kind of job you were doing in SF? I don't mean the exact description only whether you were working in the public sector or the private one, or perhaps a subsidiary of a Swiss company.

Thanks Kikapu, two more question.
a)Do you think you made it in the US or you just made a living like most people

Re maimouna...

The questions were relevant to the issue been discussed, and were very carefully worded to avoid intrusion to someone's privacy.
I also asked permission to ask and Kikapu already responded.

The 2nd set of questions can also be answered in a vague manner without revealing much of his personal life, but I am afraid Kikapu already got scared of you and he won't say anything.

I 've never seen you engaging in any normal discussion or debate. You always throw one shot derogatory comments and then run away.
I noticed you tried to change a bit in the last 24 hours engaging in real debates, but sorry I haven't seen anything impressive.

Still if you think I am doing what I accused you of, then I can understand your point (albeit I don't agree).
That's all and good luck.

[Get Real!]

The questions were relevant to the issue been discussed, and were very carefully worded to avoid intrusion to someone's privacy.
I also asked permission to ask and Kikapu already responded.

The 2nd set of questions can also be answered in a vague manner without revealing much of his personal life, but I am afraid Kikapu already got scared of you and he won't say anything.

I 've never seen you engaging in any normal discussion or debate. You always throw one shot derogatory comments and then run away.
I noticed you tried to change a bit in the last 24 hours engaging in real debates, but sorry I haven't seen anything impressive.

Still if you think I am doing what I accused you of, then I can understand your point (albeit I don't agree).
That's all and good luck.

Etsi pezevengaran san essena ene xanaida...

Enna fais kala.

[Pyrpolizer]

The questions were relevant to the issue been discussed, and were very carefully worded to avoid intrusion to someone's privacy.
I also asked permission to ask and Kikapu already responded.

The 2nd set of questions can also be answered in a vague manner without revealing much of his personal life, but I am afraid Kikapu already got scared of you and he won't say anything.

I 've never seen you engaging in any normal discussion or debate. You always throw one shot derogatory comments and then run away.
I noticed you tried to change a bit in the last 24 hours engaging in real debates, but sorry I haven't seen anything impressive.

Still if you think I am doing what I accused you of, then I can understand your point (albeit I don't agree).
That's all and good luck.

Etsi pezevengaran san essena ene xanaida...

Enna fais kala.

Ποθεν ως τα ποθεν? Εν τζαι πουλησα σε σε κανενα!

[Get Real!]

The questions were relevant to the issue been discussed, and were very carefully worded to avoid intrusion to someone's privacy.
I also asked permission to ask and Kikapu already responded.

The 2nd set of questions can also be answered in a vague manner without revealing much of his personal life, but I am afraid Kikapu already got scared of you and he won't say anything.

I 've never seen you engaging in any normal discussion or debate. You always throw one shot derogatory comments and then run away.
I noticed you tried to change a bit in the last 24 hours engaging in real debates, but sorry I haven't seen anything impressive.

Still if you think I am doing what I accused you of, then I can understand your point (albeit I don't agree).
That's all and good luck.

Etsi pezevengaran san essena ene xanaida...

Enna fais kala.

Ποθεν ως τα ποθεν? Εν τζαι πουλησα σε σε κανενα!

Entzimasten singenis… milloumen gia din manna sou.

[Paphitis]

Thanks Kikapu, two more question.
a)Do you think you made it in the US or you just made a living like most people
b) I hope Paphitis won't take it as if I am talking behind his back, all I want is to get a 3rd party opinion:
From the little I got to know the Americans they seem to pretend they are dumb. No matter how good they are on something they will never boast about it. Chances are they would rather point to their wrong doings, e.g. saying "i messed this up" , "I screwed the whole thing", "I blundered" and such similar self derogating expressions.
However Paphitis (and myself -let the truth be told) is the exact opposite! How do you think will be treated if he ever settles in the US?

Somehow, a lot of 1st generation immigrants do make it in the USA and Australia. If you look at the statistics, they generally acquire a lot of assets through hard work. They are also forced to become entrepreneurial as they have to think more outside of the box. So they open real estate agencies, grocery stores, restaurants or fast food shops and make a killing that way.

If you struggle with English, then you won't go very far in the private sector. If you are going to work, then the best you can expect is manufacturing. But these jobs are not bad as they pay well too. You just can't expect to be a corporate executive though.

Their children however, are like other American. They don't care if you are Italian or Greek, or Black these days, or Latin. If you got the goods, then you will get a job and succeed. The 3rd generations assimilate pretty much in their entirety as Americans.

What they do struggle with in America and Australia is with Muslims. There is racism here. I've seen it so many times where there is an Iraqi with a very Islamic name, who could be a "rocket engineer" and they will continuously get overlooked and someone else with less will get the job.

But back to your original question.Going to America as an Australian, or an American going to Australia is generally not a big issue. It won't take that long to adjust and there are no language or cultural barriers either.

However, different parts of the US are different culturally and politically. The West and Eastern seaboards as well as Chicago Illinois and some other parts of the Inner East, are very liberal and easy going. There are other parts of the US which are very conservative and religious, and things like racism are a bigger problem there as opposed to New York, Boston, Chicago, and LA.

The other thing is this. Most of white America is of the Irish background. The same as Australia ethnically and culturally as Australia is also 40% Irish. The Irish people are very nice down to earth people. They are nicer than English people in my opinion.

[repulsewarrior]

...speaking about water

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/201 ... t%20minute

..."they" control the Tigris, and the Euphrates, let's not forget.

[Kikapu]

I think he once mentioned running a Makarios paraphernalia 2nd hand shop for a few years…

But it wasn’t until he added a Grivas section that business really picked up…

I wonder if he had Yorgagis, Papadopuolos and Sampson in his inventory? Come on Kicks, the suspense is killing me....how did you survive in this ruthless jungle

OK, this is the last bit of personal information that will be written.

In the 70's, I invented "GYPOS" in San Francisco, a Greek dish using the initials of those names in the above, but it didn't do too well, so I dropped the initial "P" for Papadopuolos and added the initial "R" for Rauf Denktash and it became to be known "GYROS", and made a "killing" with it!

The rest is history!

[Kikapu]

However Paphitis (and myself -let the truth be told) is the exact opposite! How do you think will be treated if he ever settles in the US?

I think Paphitis will do very well in the USA, as well as his family. It will take a little time to get adjusted, but that's normal wherever one moves to from what they are accustom to. Paphitis is a smart guy with skills in aviation, so there are always going to be needs for his professional skills in the air or on the ground. He will have no problem being accepted in any part of the country. Actually, it will be more like whether he will accept all different part of the country, which he may be forced to work from until he can build enough seniority in the company he will work for to relocate when positions came available in the area he wants to live.

The better area one lives, better the public schools will be for his kids, or else, he will need to put them into private education, and that can be expensive. In the US like in Europe, to have a comfortable life, both parents needs to work, which also adds security when one cannot work for whatever reason. Americans earn less than the Europeans in like for like professions, but the cost of living is also less in the USA. Americans work just as hard as the Europeans, but the rewards are less in the US than they are Europe, especially when it comes to working conditions and vacation time. The moment one leaves the company they are working for in the US, you will lose all your vacation time (which is far less than those in Europe to begin with) and health benefits and will have to start all over again with the new company, so in some ways, those with families tend to become "slaves" to their jobs so not to lose the company benefits.

Americans are friendly, especially in the service industry. Most Americans misuse the word "friendships" to "acquaintances", so one needs to watch out for this, especially for those who are from Australia who are very friendly people, and they mean it when they say they are your friends. In the US, it is not always the same.

As for his kids, if they can become US citizens, all the better. It is always good to have options in life as to where you want to work and live.

Go for it, Paphitis!