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[Get Real!]

If it is an IQ issue and not a luck of knowledge issue then there is nothing you can do about it But if it is a luck of knowledge issue, maybe you spend too much time studying fairy tales while you could have invested your time to study something more useful, e.g. biology

Hang on a tick Sotos… something’s happening… I think I’m growing wings!

Oh shit... I just morphed into a pelican!

[Sotos]

In your case, a degree in Scatology merely fills your head with a load of shit !!
Accountancy is a boring subject but at least it enhances one's logical thinking , it reinforces reality and does not accept falsified figures or , in your case, false creators. A balance sheet reflects the true facts about a company and does not include imaginary assets or fucking....miracles. Get it thick head ?

The difference between science and religion can be summarized as follows;

Science - I will believe it when I see it.

Religion - I will see it when I believe it.

They are complete opposites.

Hasn't there ever been a time in your life when you believed in something so much that it came in to being? This is what we can call a miracle.

There is no such thing as "miracles". Sometimes people think as "miracles" things that happen even though there was a very small chance of those things happening. E.g. If you have some aggressive cancer and doctors tell you the chance of survival is 1 in 10.000, and you survive, then you can call it a "miracle". But no, you were just that lucky 1 out of 10.000. If you are religious and you pray day and night you would have 1:10.000 and if you are atheist you still have 1:10.000.

You could even win the Joker by just playing a single set of numbers (chance 1 in 24435180) again, no "miracle". Maybe you were praying to win the Joker, or maybe you played and then nearly forgot about it. It doesn't matter, your chances of winning are the same no matter how much you believe that you will win, or how much you pray to win.

But what about something like "staying forever young"? What are the chances of that happening? The chances of that happening are 0. You can believe that you will stay forever young, you can pray to stay forever young, it will not happen.

[Maximus]

In your case, a degree in Scatology merely fills your head with a load of shit !!
Accountancy is a boring subject but at least it enhances one's logical thinking , it reinforces reality and does not accept falsified figures or , in your case, false creators. A balance sheet reflects the true facts about a company and does not include imaginary assets or fucking....miracles. Get it thick head ?

The difference between science and religion can be summarized as follows;

Science - I will believe it when I see it.

Religion - I will see it when I believe it.

They are complete opposites.

Hasn't there ever been a time in your life when you believed in something so much that it came in to being? This is what we can call a miracle.

There is no such thing as "miracles". Sometimes people think as "miracles" things that happen even though there was a very small chance of those things happening. E.g. If you have some aggressive cancer and doctors tell you the chance of survival is 1 in 10.000, and you survive, then you can call it a "miracle". But no, you were just that lucky 1 out of 10.000. If you are religious and you pray day and night you would have 1:10.000 and if you are atheist you still have 1:10.000.

You could even win the Joker by just playing a single set of numbers (chance 1 in 24435180) again, no "miracle". Maybe you were praying to win the Joker, or maybe you played and then nearly forgot about it. It doesn't matter, your chances of winning are the same no matter how much you believe that you will win, or how much you pray to win.

But what about something like "staying forever young"? What are the chances of that happening? The chances of that happening are 0. You can believe that you will stay forever young, you can pray to stay forever young, it will not happen.

Thoughts and beliefs become words, which then become actions.

If you think you can or think you cant, you are right -

You will get what you think about.

[Sotos]

In your case, a degree in Scatology merely fills your head with a load of shit !!
Accountancy is a boring subject but at least it enhances one's logical thinking , it reinforces reality and does not accept falsified figures or , in your case, false creators. A balance sheet reflects the true facts about a company and does not include imaginary assets or fucking....miracles. Get it thick head ?

The difference between science and religion can be summarized as follows;

Science - I will believe it when I see it.

Religion - I will see it when I believe it.

They are complete opposites.

Hasn't there ever been a time in your life when you believed in something so much that it came in to being? This is what we can call a miracle.

There is no such thing as "miracles". Sometimes people think as "miracles" things that happen even though there was a very small chance of those things happening. E.g. If you have some aggressive cancer and doctors tell you the chance of survival is 1 in 10.000, and you survive, then you can call it a "miracle". But no, you were just that lucky 1 out of 10.000. If you are religious and you pray day and night you would have 1:10.000 and if you are atheist you still have 1:10.000.

You could even win the Joker by just playing a single set of numbers (chance 1 in 24435180) again, no "miracle". Maybe you were praying to win the Joker, or maybe you played and then nearly forgot about it. It doesn't matter, your chances of winning are the same no matter how much you believe that you will win, or how much you pray to win.

But what about something like "staying forever young"? What are the chances of that happening? The chances of that happening are 0. You can believe that you will stay forever young, you can pray to stay forever young, it will not happen.

Thoughts and beliefs become words, which then become actions.

If you think you can or think you cant, you are right -

You will get what you think about.

That can only work as a Bank of Cyprus ad

[Maximus]

There was a time when man flying was unheard of, possibly even thought of as impossible or crazy.

But someone believed it to be possible, tried it and now man can fly.

if you believe in evolution, is it impossible to believe that man might, one day, evolve to have wings.

Why not? apparently, we evolved from some lizard that lived in the sea. I bet that started with a thought about walking on land a breathing air.

If this is possible, anything is.

And that is a miracle.

[Paphitis]

But the Human mind has evolved in the form of "evolution of intelligence", no?

And yes, Human's are afraid of their own mortality and want assurances from religion and God for the purpose of afterlife.

In the end, if there is an afterlife, then we will all end up in the same place whether one believes in God or not, no?

It is very hard to believe that our beautiful planet of earth is just an accident in the Universe when compared to other planets in our solar system without the creator to have made it all possible. But then again, the planet earth has gone through many changes in it's 6 Billion year history and will go through many more changes in the next 6 Billion years. Today's species on this earth are not guaranteed to be around for the next 6 Billion year ride. Not even close!

That is up to you what you believe.

As to what others believe, I think that religiosity is very much in decline throughout the Western World, and that Atheists and Agnostics are very much so in the majority now.

However, it will be a bad day in my opinion if religions are suppressed in any way by neo liberal secular forces.

What I believe is that we are all here by pure accident or chance. I also believe that there are other life forms in either our solar system (whether micro-biological) and that there is solid potential for intelligent life forms in the Galaxy, and while this may seem rather eccentric to many, it isn't.

Scientists too believe that this may be the case as does NASA. The chances of all the swiss cheese holes lining up to support life elsewhere, I think is almost certain considering the vastness of the all the Universes that actually exist and are not even discovered in our multi-verse.

I believe when we die, then that's it.

[Paphitis]

Can so many people who have built everything we have today on this planet and out of it, great and small, with the never ending evolving of the mind's knowledge, can be so wrong?

First of all when it comes to scientists the numbers of theists are far lower than those of the general population. Secondly "be wrong" about what? Every religion has different (often contradictory) beliefs, so at best all religions are wrong except from 1. That means that even in a best case scenario for religious people only a minority of them could be "right". If people of a specific belief had everything going great to them while nobody else did, then maybe you could argue that there is a correlation between the religious beliefs of those people and their achievements. But this isn't the case.

Can all these people who are religious, regardless of their religious beliefs and no matter how contradictory they may be to each other, almost all believe in the existence of God in one form or other which is responsible to their existence and pray for his guidance, so the question is, can all these people be wrong that there is God, Soto’s?

It's very understandable to make things up as humans do for things they do not understand. man has been doing that since the beginning of time.

[Paphitis]

Not even prayer and "asking for guidance" is something universal among religions. But to answer a general question: Can lots of people be wrong? Of course they can. 2000 years ago nearly everybody believed that the sun and moon were orbiting the earth. The argument "most people believe X so X must be right", is simply not a good argument.

Every single isolated tribe discovered in Borneo, or the Amazon, or anywhere else... had some sort of God or deity that they feared and believed in.

Like I said… seeking God is built into Man naturally.

Of course it is. But every single God has proven to be a false Deity or Mythology. None actually exist.

Man will always make things up to explain their existence. Man has this desire to explain why they are here and how they got here so they invent something.

The Aborigines have their dream-time and believe in spirits.

[Paphitis]

In your case, a degree in Scatology merely fills your head with a load of shit !!
Accountancy is a boring subject but at least it enhances one's logical thinking , it reinforces reality and does not accept falsified figures or , in your case, false creators. A balance sheet reflects the true facts about a company and does not include imaginary assets or fucking....miracles. Get it thick head ?

The difference between science and religion can be summarized as follows;

Science - I will believe it when I see it.

Religion - I will see it when I believe it.

They are complete opposites.

Hasn't there ever been a time in your life when you believed in something so much that it came in to being? This is what we can call a miracle.

No! Even these so called miracles are just fabricated in people's head.

I think Man is on the right trajectory with both Science and Technology.

Sometimes it might be on the wrong trajectory as far as social behavior, crime, drugs and other things. Hence why I see a place for Christian religion now.

Everything can be explained scientifically regardless of whether we have 100% knowledge of some things or not.

[Paphitis]

If it is an IQ issue and not a luck of knowledge issue then there is nothing you can do about it But if it is a luck of knowledge issue, maybe you spend too much time studying fairy tales while you could have invested your time to study something more useful, e.g. biology

Hang on a tick Sotos… something’s happening… I think I’m growing wings!

Oh shit... I just morphed into a pelican!

A Pelican is too intelligent for you to evolve into. BTW, you can't evolve into another species. Pelicans and birds are evolved from Dinosaurs. This is a proven fact now. The DNA of both are closely matched or aligned.

We are closely related to the Chimpanzee, so at the current rate of evolution, you should become one in about a couple of years.