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[Sotos]

I suppose if Pontius Pilate’s scribes were to record Jesus’ adventures, archaeologists would today discover a slate or a papyrus that read something along the lines of...

“Today, that tattered bearded fellow showed up at the market again and started mumbling the usual strange talk that nobody understands.

A crowd soon gathered and amazingly, he did manage to heal a pauper’s crooked leg and although we have no idea how he did this, if this wizardry keeps up we’re just going to have to do something about this fellow who dares to challenge the popularity of the great leader!”

So I can’t imagine any leader of the time recording the life and times of Jesus for you to discover today Sotos!

Jesus would’ve simply been an insignificant inconvenience for the then government.

But if his "miracles" weren't convincing enough to even attract the attention of any of the educated people of his time why stories about such miracles written by people many decades later should convince anybody today? If the only ones who he could convince about his powers were uneducated peasants (those that can easily fall for the simplest of "magic" tricks), then this shows that there was nothing about him worth recording. So either he didn't exist, or there was nothing impressive about his existence worth recording. It is one or the other.

[Get Real!]

But if his "miracles" weren't convincing enough to even attract the attention of any of the educated people of his time why stories about such miracles written by people many decades later should convince anybody today? If the only ones who he could convince about his powers were uneducated peasants (those that can easily fall for the simplest of "magic" tricks), then this shows that there was nothing about him worth recording. So either he didn't exist, or there was nothing impressive about his existence worth recording. It is one or the other.

Like I said… I don’t think Jesus was spectacular and any miracles were only witnessed by small crowds.

I think it’s a waste of time looking for evidence of a Jesus who had such a short and impoverished life and only rose to fame after he died.

I think the bible as a package in its entirety is what makes it spectacular and not just one of the protagonists, albeit the most important one.

Here’s what gets me…

A book is started at around 1500BC and completed in 120AD… that’s 600 odd years of constant writing by over 60 authors that have never met each other… yet they are writing about the same places and people they have never witnessed… in perfect harmony!

I have no idea how I can pull that off even using today’s technologies like Ms Word, Internet and email!

I’m beyond baffled…

[Get Real!]

Some people spend their entire lives pondering how various ancient people were able to move a 100-ton boulder into position… but to me that’s nothing but dead weight that can be moved with 100,000 slaves.

But I have no idea how I can get those 100,000 slaves to write a bible!

[Sotos]

We never met each other but we both heard the story of Superman and based on that we can both write more Superman episodes. And then a committee can choose what they consider the best Superman stories and compile them into the "Superman bible"... which is basically what happened with the Bible. So I don't think that there is anything spectacular about how the Bible was written. What is spectacular are the claims inside the Bible... but anybody can write claims about spectacular events, which is why there are tons of myths and tons of religions.

[Paphitis]

We never met each other but we both heard the story of Superman and based on that we can both write more Superman episodes. And then a committee can choose what they consider the best Superman stories and compile them into the "Superman bible"... which is basically what happened with the Bible. So I don't think that there is anything spectacular about how the Bible was written. What is spectacular are the claims inside the Bible... but anybody can write claims about spectacular events, which is why there are tons of myths and tons of religions.

Spot on Sotos!

Christians have a long way to go to convince all about their stories and claims.

However, the moon landing is based on fact. Bible, is not as far as we can tell.

[kurupetos]

What evidence do you want koala?

[Kikapu]

Moon landings and other space missions by NASA must be true, otherwise other countries like USSR/Russia and China would have exposed the „fake“ space missions had they not been accomplished just to rain on America‘s parade since they were not able to do the same, no?

[Get Real!]

We never met each other but we both heard the story of Superman and based on that we can both write more Superman episodes. And then a committee can choose what they consider the best Superman stories and compile them into the "Superman bible"... which is basically what happened with the Bible. So I don't think that there is anything spectacular about how the Bible was written. What is spectacular are the claims inside the Bible... but anybody can write claims about spectacular events, which is why there are tons of myths and tons of religions.

Two millenniums ago there were no TVs, radios, books, magazines, or the Internet with which to spread Superman or other stories.

I think the problem is that many of you seem to have no concept of what two millenniums ago must’ve been like…

No concept of what ZERO information circulating was like… of what worrying about your next meal might be like… of what waiting in the bushes to whack some animal so as to get the skin to have a tunic to wear, must’ve been like!

Let alone collaborate with other authors in other lands to form volumes of some mega book!

[Paphitis]

What evidence do you want koala?

For what?

[Paphitis]

We never met each other but we both heard the story of Superman and based on that we can both write more Superman episodes. And then a committee can choose what they consider the best Superman stories and compile them into the "Superman bible"... which is basically what happened with the Bible. So I don't think that there is anything spectacular about how the Bible was written. What is spectacular are the claims inside the Bible... but anybody can write claims about spectacular events, which is why there are tons of myths and tons of religions.

Two millenniums ago there were no TVs, radios, books, magazines, or the Internet with which to spread Superman or other stories.

I think the problem is that many of you seem to have no concept of what two millenniums ago must’ve been like…

No concept of what ZERO information circulating was like… of what worrying about your next meal might be like… of what waiting in the bushes to whack some animal so as to get the skin to have a tunic to wear, must’ve been like!

Let alone collaborate with other authors in other lands to form volumes of some mega book!

So because of that we are suppose to believe that JC walked on water?