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[repulsewarrior]

Wednesday, June 12, 2019
Cyprus offshore: Turkey turns up the heat
https://www.petroleum-economist.com/art ... p-the-heat

...the Gas in question is neither "Greek", or "Turkish", it is Cypriot.

If Mr. Akinci is sincere, as a Cypriot, he would consider what Cypriots may gain from the work Turkey has been licensed to execute for them. If he is sincere, with the best interests of Cypriots in mind, he may realise that this exploration does not necessarily have to be linked to the Problem. The good-will, good-faith, trust, and respect he seeks, can be demonstrated.

...while Mr. Erdogan has "tossed out a window", the Treaty of Lausanne, it does not mean that the EU, and the rest of the world will follow. While he seeks supremacy over and under the Eastern Mediterranean, it does not mean that his threats will result in Cyprus becoming his tribute for otherwise keeping the Peace. He intends to point the S-400s he will soon receive from Russia, southward toward Cyprus and the sea. Is Cyprus (along with the rest of the world) the threat he is defending himself from? Something to think about. I ask, is he preparing Turkey for war? Accordingly, those against these ambitions should prepare for this war, indeed. And if Mr. Akinci is sincere, his support for "Turkishness" may cease entirely.

...he will have to decide, soon, as a Cypriot, and Turkish, what Legacy it is he holds most dear, and which one in affect he will necessarily betray, to "be" Turkish Cypriot, or "Cypriot Turk". My hope is he will not forget who voted for him.

[repulsewarrior]

...you should read this if you think my observations are overreactions and fantasy.

https://www.memri.org/reports/turkish-p ... an-frigate

"Turkey's second drillship, Yavuz, departed yesterday for Cypriot waters to join its predecessor, Fatih, in the East Mediterranean. These vessels are each an element of Turkey's national struggle. They are Turkish fleet. They are part of a massive Mediterranean struggle.

"Do not consider them solely as an energy issue. Do not view them as a natural gas or oil issue either. Consider them an Ottoman frigate, a Barbaros vessel, the protection of an empire, the protection of the Republic of Turkey.

"A Millennium-Old Political Legacy Has Been Brought To The Present

"Consider it as part of a great showdown. Think of it as Turkey's game-changing legacy being propelled into action once again, the reconstruction of the multinational front aimed at eliminating this, and every location within our reach becoming battlefields of this showdown.

"Think with the destinies of the battles of Preveza[7] and Lepanto[8] in mind. It is as though the millennium-old political history has been carried over to the present and squeezed into a few years. This is the kind of struggle we are putting up.

[Maximus]

this Is the beginning of the end of turkey as you know it.

She will be divided several ways and locked out of most of the med.

The Turks won’t know what they did to destroy the country but turkey won’t be a threat to her neighbors anymore.

[repulsewarrior]

For Ankara, the worst-case scenario in the eastern Mediterranean is a possible agreement between Greek Cypriots and Greece on sharing of naval sovereignty areas. This could threaten Turkey’s and Turkish Cypriots’ rights and interests in naval sovereignty zones in the region, which is believed to be rich in terms of hydrocarbon resources.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... z5sx0mKkZh

Libya will be a source of distraction soon, i imagine.

[Maximus]

Turkey is spreading herself too thin.

She has opened too many fronts And is ready to open more. This will become a political and economic drain, soon to be quickly exasperated by her economic collapse. These are Fronts she can’t win. She hasn’t achieved a single political objective or beneficial outcome in Syria and that disaster is a decade in the making.

Some kind of blow back is inevitable, sanctions will also eventually kick in.

There is only one way this will end for the Turks. Their country will go up in flames as they try to set the region on fire.

Many Turks will starve and probably die as a result.

Turkey will officially be classified as a terror state.

The current leadership will eventually be removed from power. Either by death, criminal prosecution or as fugitives living in exile.

Turkey will never be the same again and will cease to exist as we currently know it.

[Lordo]

so there was the prediction that fatih will win erdogan the elections. clearly it was wrong, it has not and erdogan lost his fanacial powerbase of both ankara and istanbul. of course he never has izmir in the first place. yesterday imamoglu declared that 3000 akp members who were on the payroll of istanbul minicipality that that never actually turned up for work have been removed. erdogan corruption money has all but dried.

so now new predictions, how many times do i have to say it.

TWRRGGGGGGGGGYYYYYYYY IS TOO IMPORTANT FOR THE YANKS FOR THEIR INTERESTS AND WILL NOT ALLOW ANYTHING TO HAPPEN TO HER. THE RELIGOUS NUTS ARE LOOSING GROUND ALL OVER TERGGY. ANOTHER PARTY IS ABOUT TO BE SET UP FROM AKP WHICH WILL MEAN THEIR OWN VOTE OR WHATS LEFT OF IT WI BE SPLIT.

IMAMOGLU WILL BE THE NEXT PRESDIENT. WRITE THAT DOWN SOMEWHERE.

THE REST IS BUUUUUUUUUULLLL SHIT.

[Maximus]

Lordo, sometimes, you are right. Albeit, a tiny percentage of the time.

You are fixated on the Istanbul mayor elections while erdo and his crony’s are on a path that might set the region on fire. And create a lot of blowback for Turks.

Do you seriously think that turkeys is so important that she can threaten everyone’s interest and become rogue without repercussions?

This is where most of the regions and turkeys problems stem from. It starts within and then without.

A new party is being set up that will consist of the same people that got the current ball rolling. Namely, Ahmet “more problems with neighbors” davutoglue and Gul who let erdoogan become president and abuse powers.

They are not your saviors, they Are part of the problem.

[Maximus]

Unless turkey makes a dramatic about turn which I sincerely hope she does but given what I know about turkey. It’s highly improbably if left to her own violation. Only the Eu, the Us, Israel, Egypt and the Greeks can save turkey.

What price is turkey willing to pay for this?

She had the opportunity to become an eu member state, she ended up pissing everyone off and creating conflict far and wide. This is completely the opposite of what she signed up for.

To top it off, she boasts to the people that built her up in the first place and turns on them.

Well the rug might just be pulled from under her feet.

Turkey is not that important, the land mass she occupies is more important and there are alternative solutions for that area.

[repulsewarrior]

...what is Fatih out there, for? Oil, you say? It only matters that oil has been found. Indeed there is a bigger issue of Sovereignty, where having to defend this oil is the means by which Turkey may gain an advantage, enough to bring in the least a Tribute worthy of his interest, with or without war, in the Aegean, and in the Eastern Med., no more Treaty of Lausanne, something new.

...Fatih is out there for the election win, Lordo; Erdogan is still out there with about half of Turkey's population behind him.

[repulsewarrior]

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/A-dangero ... ean-595269

..a very cautious view. And yet, it seems to me that Turkey's Erdogan has isolated himself, and that his intention is to toss out the window, as he said, the Treaty of Lausanne. He may accept that Cypriots have a part to play in the Eastern Mediterranean as equals, by recognising Cyprus, and that Cypriots exist, whether Turkish or Greek as Cypriots. But, he has isolated himself entirely, and he is preparing for war. It would be foolish not to be as prepared, willing, this time to demonstrate the unity, the rest of the world, the "us", has for the Universal Principals which he is willing to question along with "our" resolve.

Erdogan speaks for "Turkishness", not Turkey.

Cyprus is not the Problem, Erdogan's desire for total supremacy on this sea, and the Aegean, is.