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Re: Fuego!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue May 15, 2018 12:27 am

when your love for Greece exceeds that of your love for Cyprus


This is why you do not understand. Greece and Cyprus are inseparable. They are ONE. It is you who see them as two.
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Re: Fuego!

Postby Paphitis » Tue May 15, 2018 1:12 am

DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Cap wrote:
Greece HAD a goldmine that was waiting to be discovered and exploited, but their blatant racism blinded them from capitalizing from it.


Yes, that's usually the case.
Albanians don't go down well with Greeks.
Neither do Cypriots.


Yeh Albanians don’t go down well in Greece. They are associated with crime, and cheap labour so they don’t go down too well in Greece. That is true.

But Cypriots not going down too well in Greece is totally nonsense! Where did you get that from? Cypriots do just fine in Greece with hardly any differentiation from Greeks.


True...they can’t hate us...we brought so much of their NPL’s we friggin own their ass now. :lol:


Who bought all the Cyprus NPL's DT? I want to know who owns your asses! :lol:
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Re: Fuego!

Postby DT. » Tue May 15, 2018 6:51 am

Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Cap wrote:
Greece HAD a goldmine that was waiting to be discovered and exploited, but their blatant racism blinded them from capitalizing from it.


Yes, that's usually the case.
Albanians don't go down well with Greeks.
Neither do Cypriots.


Yeh Albanians don’t go down well in Greece. They are associated with crime, and cheap labour so they don’t go down too well in Greece. That is true.

But Cypriots not going down too well in Greece is totally nonsense! Where did you get that from? Cypriots do just fine in Greece with hardly any differentiation from Greeks.


True...they can’t hate us...we brought so much of their NPL’s we friggin own their ass now. :lol:


Who bought all the Cyprus NPL's DT? I want to know who owns your asses! :lol:


Latest trade was a 4.7bn carve out of the coops NPL’s into a bad bank owned by the govt....so I guess we own our own asses 8)
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Re: Fuego!

Postby erolz66 » Tue May 15, 2018 7:31 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Greece sent a ballad in Greek. There is a logical and aesthetic reason why they did that.

If you understood Greek culture (which you don't), you would understand why Greece would not give such a song 12 points (except for its Cypriot association) and why some other countries (not many) gave Cyprus 12 points - but for other/their own reasons.

European countries are very much individuals (for good or bad; bad in the case of winning against the united Israeli entries). Greece gave this entry 12 points, this time, because it would help Cyprus. Because it represents Cyprus. You don't like that reason. The fact we can rise above personal choice when faced with patriotism.


Yet they gave Israel's entry, hardly a ballad and sung in English, 6 televotes and 4 jury votes. Moldova, sung in English and more pop than ballad 10 jury points, Sweden 8 jury points and on and on.

GreekIslandGirl wrote:It's no wonder, to me, that you couldn't wait to try and diminish our bond with Greece by pretending you love this song so much and Greece voted because they, like you, love this song so much.

Get this straight, loving this song does not equate to loving Cyprus (but you'd use any trick). Seeing this song as brash does not diminish the beauty and power of Cyprus.


I have not and do not pretend I love this song. I said explicitly

I have no interest in euro vision, no views on how good the songs. However as a Cypriot I am happy that Cyprus did well.


Not difficult to understand but as ever you twist everything to suit your propaganda
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Re: Fuego!

Postby erolz66 » Tue May 15, 2018 7:33 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote: This is why you do not understand. Greece and Cyprus are inseparable. They are ONE. It is you who see them as two.


I understand very well you believe this just as I understand there are Turkish Cypriots who believe this about Turkey and Cyprus and understand that between you and them such beliefs have fucked our country up royally.
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Re: Fuego!

Postby Paphitis » Tue May 15, 2018 9:43 am

DT. wrote:
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Who bought all the Cyprus NPL's DT? I want to know who owns your asses! :lol:


Latest trade was a 4.7bn carve out of the coops NPL’s into a bad bank owned by the govt....so I guess we own our own asses 8)


Pull the other one mate! :lol:

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Re: Fuego!

Postby miltiades » Tue May 15, 2018 11:27 am

I remarked to someone the other day, a solicitor, that I have never seen so many Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Range Rover, Masseratis and othet luxury cars as I have seen in Cyprus.
Yes he said, all part of the NPLs !!
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Re: Fuego!

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue May 15, 2018 3:05 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Cap wrote:
Greece HAD a goldmine that was waiting to be discovered and exploited, but their blatant racism blinded them from capitalizing from it.


Yes, that's usually the case.
Albanians don't go down well with Greeks.
Neither do Cypriots.


Yeh Albanians don’t go down well in Greece. They are associated with crime, and cheap labour so they don’t go down too well in Greece. That is true.

But Cypriots not going down too well in Greece is totally nonsense! Where did you get that from? Cypriots do just fine in Greece with hardly any differentiation from Greeks.


There are striking differences in our mentality and ethics that quite often lead to tension. These differences are more with those living around Athens. less with those in Thessaloniki, and much less with the Islanders.
Those who settle there simply adapt. Like the mainland Greeks adapt when the settle in Cyprus. But the differences never disappear...
Doesn't mean we or them are better though.
Cypriots like you who were born abroad and basically raised/got educated among the mixed greek+ greek cypriot diaspora may not notice any difference but we the locally born do....
I guess this is the case of GIG as well
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Re: Fuego!

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue May 15, 2018 3:09 pm

miltiades wrote:I remarked to someone the other day, a solicitor, that I have never seen so many Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Range Rover, Masseratis and othet luxury cars as I have seen in Cyprus.
Yes he said, all part of the NPLs !!


The vast majority are second hand cheap cars coming from the UK.
Cypriots like showing of
both the locals and the Charlies :wink: :lol:

It's called archonto-Choriatismos -->How the peasants behave when they get rich
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Re: Fuego!

Postby Paphitis » Tue May 15, 2018 4:02 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Cap wrote:
Greece HAD a goldmine that was waiting to be discovered and exploited, but their blatant racism blinded them from capitalizing from it.


Yes, that's usually the case.
Albanians don't go down well with Greeks.
Neither do Cypriots.


Yeh Albanians don’t go down well in Greece. They are associated with crime, and cheap labour so they don’t go down too well in Greece. That is true.

But Cypriots not going down too well in Greece is totally nonsense! Where did you get that from? Cypriots do just fine in Greece with hardly any differentiation from Greeks.


There are striking differences in our mentality and ethics that quite often lead to tension. These differences are more with those living around Athens. less with those in Thessaloniki, and much less with the Islanders.
Those who settle there simply adapt. Like the mainland Greeks adapt when the settle in Cyprus. But the differences never disappear...
Doesn't mean we or them are better though.
Cypriots like you who were born abroad and basically raised/got educated among the mixed greek+ greek cypriot diaspora may not notice any difference but we the locally born do....
I guess this is the case of GIG as well


I find Greeks more down to earth generally.

Anyway, you can't generalise because Greeks in Australia and America are different than Greeks who have stayed in Greece because the Greeks in the Diaspora have been exposed to other cultures and ways of thinking.

I never have any issues with people living in Athens. What I dislike about Athens are the Foreigners. The Greeks in Athens are mostly villagers from the country trying to get by in a big city. When you are in a big city, you can not behave like if you are in a small village. First of all, there are lots of people, and a lot of crime. You got to watch your back. When you are in a small village or in the country, you are carefree and more trusting, probably happier and more trusting. In a big city, you are less carefree. Also, the cost of living is about 10 times more, so you need to establish your lifestyle and way of life. In big cities like Hong Kong, New York, or Sydney and even Athens, that isn't as easy as it is in Limassol or in Cyprus in general.

It's the same in every city. 99% of people are ok, but you just got to watch out for the 1 percenters that will knife you. The bigger the city, the worse it is.

I do not buy that Athenians are bad. They are not bad. they are just in a big city and Cyprus is small in comparison and that is the difference. You can't compare life in Cyprus to life in Athens, or even worse, life in Sydney, Melbourne, New York, or Chicago.
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