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[Robin Hood]

Just saying like
https://www.rt.com/news/325825-sarin-gas-syria-turkey/

But you didn't see this on any other channel, nor will you see any of the warnings by Putin given weeks before, that this false flag gassing in Douma was well know before hand. If the only place people get their news is from Western MSM they will never know what is going on around them!

[Robin Hood]

If you come up with a sound source, with evidence to fit the crime, which shows Assad was responsible then he should be treated like any other war criminal and that goes for any crime committed, not just using chemical weapons. The evidence so far does not support your profuse allegations ..... but common sense says it is far more likely the terrorists were responsible ..... and not for the first time and that HAS been proved to a high degree of probability with past allegations.

i don't think there was a chemical attack on the first place. The whole thing seems to have been planned and staged a long time ago for unknown reasons so far.

I will wait and see what the OPCW find. But you are right it was planned before hand and the Russians told the world but they didn't print it or show his address on TV. Ignorance is bliss?

I am more inclined to believe it was a demonstration of the capabilities of the Western weapons Vs the Russian defense systems.

I think you have a good point, it certainly wasn't about chemical weapons, that was just the excuse. Whether you watch Trump, May or Macron giving their reasons and justifications, the sum total is that apart from social media and US terrorists on the ground ..... they don't have a shred of credible evidence between them!

Hence the aftermath concentrated on the absolute success of the Western strike while the other side saying half the Tomahawks missed their target.

But have you noticed Trump et al only mention the three chemical facilities? Over a hundred missiles for three small sites ........... then look at the before and after satellite images ...... does any of them appear they had been hit by some 35 missiles? My bet is that it is the same as Trumps last attack, many were stopped at sea (maybe through electronic 'interference) and the rest brought down by air defence and with old technology! So I tend to believe the 'shot-down' theory to the '100% mission accomplished' version.

Also listening to the radio this morning by far the greatest majority of people were opposed to this attack. Thankfully the views that a certain member gives on here about the coalition superiority and their God given right to attack anyone, at anytime and anyway ........ I didn't hear one person express!

[Robin Hood]

OK, to sum the grim situation up…

We have a small group of scumbag nations; predominantly the US, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and Turkey, that are basically causing 99% of the world’s problems with the most heinous atrocities against humanity all over the globe but mostly in Africa and the ME.

We and other websites can post evidence of this till the cows come home but the real question is… what can the citizens of this planet do about this serious problem that has the potential to blow the planet to smithereens?

It doesn’t look like the problem is going away, and there’s not enough evidence we can post of the culprits either here or elsewhere it seems, to make it go away!

So can we act on this? Any ideas?

Of course you are right. We as individual or even as a group can't do anything but the more we talk about it and link to sources that give the other side of the story .... the more people read it and maybe become interested enough to find out more. I am afraid the only response that will solve it is .... a Revolution! I am a bit too old to man the barricades but I am willing to protest!

[Robin Hood]

The History Of Syrian False Flags Exposed

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04- ... gs-exposed

Say no more! The video is interesting where SKY cuts off former UK Commander in Iraq .... who was saying things 'they' didn't like .......... and there are fools that still believe they get the facts from these MSM sources!

[Pyrpolizer]

But have you noticed Trump et al only mention the three chemical facilities? Over a hundred missiles for three small sites ........... then look at the before and after satellite images ...... does any of them appear they had been hit by some 35 missiles? My bet is that it is the same as Trumps last attack, many were stopped at sea (maybe through electronic 'interference) and the rest brought down by air defence and with old technology! So I tend to believe the 'shot-down' theory to the '100% mission accomplished' version.

Also listening to the radio this morning by far the greatest majority of people were opposed to this attack. Thankfully the views that a certain member gives on here about the coalition superiority and their God given right to attack anyone, at anytime and anyway ........ I didn't hear one person express!

Yes I saw the damage they caused. As a conscript I was in the artillery myself and kept wondering why they didn't use artillery to do the job?
It would cost much less than 1M US$. I guess Paphitis' remark that the Tomahawks and their similar are very accurate, provided the answer to that as the artillery shells may fall + or- 50 meters apart. Anyway I estimated we would need about 200 artillery shells to turn everything to dust in those small areas. And we could use special heads to destroy those reinforced concrete fighter jet hangars as well.
However the artillery shells carry 50 times less explosives than the Tomahawks (8-10 kg compared to 450 kg!)
In total 2 or 3 Tomahawks per target should be enough imo!

I am totally puzzled!! The numbers don't match up. If they really used 100 Tomahawks and all of them hit their targets then the ground should have melted

NB. 100 Tomahawks= 1/300th of the Hiroshima bomb

[yialousa1971]

Just saying like
https://www.rt.com/news/325825-sarin-gas-syria-turkey/

And this:-

18,000 Syrian Children Victim to Organ Harvesting.
Published on 1 Apr 2014Turkey as a major market for Syrian children's organs

[Robin Hood]

Yialousa: The video won't run. I pasted the link into Google and it did run !

Robert Fisk has been to Douma, been into the tunnels and has spoken to the doctors ...... the video is genuine ..... but the story attributed to it in the media ........is false.

It was the false story May went to war on ......... not the facts on the ground, she couldn’t possibly wait for the evidence!

Robert Fisk Reports Head of Douma Clinic Denies Chemical Weapons Attack - Foreword by Craig Murry

Robert Fisk is one of the very few excellent investigative journalists still employed in the UK. He is twice winner of the British Press Awards‘ Journalist of the Year prize, and seven time winner of the British Press Awards’ Foreign Correspondent of the Year. He is extremely smart and knows the Middle East very well. He has just made his way – not accompanied by Russian or Syrian government officials – to Douma and this is what he reports.

It also says a great deal about our media that one of the greatest living British journalists is employed only by The Independent, a newspaper which has become extremely marginal, while other genuine greats like Jon Pilger, with a fantastic pedigree, do not have access to UK mainstream media at all. 60,000 people on average are reading my journalism here every day, but no mainstream outlet will carry it.


The Search for Truth in the Rubble of Douma – and one Doctor’s Doubts Over the Chemical Attack

Exclusive: Robert Fisk visits the Syria clinic at the centre of a global crisis - By Robert Fisk

This is the story of a town called Douma, a ravaged, stinking place of smashed apartment blocks – and of an underground clinic whose images of suffering allowed three of the Western world’s most powerful nations to bomb Syria last week. There’s even a friendly doctor in a green coat who, when I track him down in the very same clinic, cheerfully tells me that the “gas” videotape which horrified the world – despite all the doubters – is perfectly genuine.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49234.htm

[Robin Hood]

Message to General WeWe from Einstein!

Out of 103 missiles ..... 73 were taken down or failed to reach the target. You questioned the ‘Einsteins’ how this was possible, well here is your answer. This is how they did it!

You proudly told us these missiles relied upon GPS I believe? Well those ‘stupid Russians’ were changing the GPS coordinates and sending your missiles into the desert where they could do no harm.

Some 18 months maybe 2 years ago, I posted a story on this thread about taxi drivers and other vehicles using sat-nav's, whilst driving anywhere hear the Kremlin were reading their location as a point 40 miles away. I seem to remember The General ridiculed the idea that the Russians had this capability. Now you know general ..... whilst your MSM never covered this story the Independents did!

Back to the drawing board then!

Krasukha (electronic warfare system)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Krasukha (Красуха) is a mobile, ground-based, electronic warfare (EW) system. This system is produced by the KRET corporation on different wheeled platforms.[1][2] The Krasukha's primary targets are airborne radio-electronics (such as UAVs) and airborne systems guided by radar. The Krasukha has multiple applications in the Russian Armed Forces.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasukha_(electronic_warfare_system)

[Paphitis]

Well well well, aren't you Einsteins clever fucks!

Tomahawk, Shadow, and JASSM also navigate with Inertial Nav Systems and Contour Mapping.

The chances of jamming them is pretty much zilch. these Missiles are tried and true and work as advertised.

Even if all 24 GPS satellites simultaneously failed, they will still hit at + or - 1 to 10 m accuracy with INS.

I would like to also see just evidence of 1 Tomahawk Missile being paraded on RT. If they shot down 71, you would think children will be playing coyboys and Indyans on them. BTW, if anyone does find one, they are more or less safe as the warhead would not have been armed. Safety feature so that innocent people are not taken out should any fall astray.

But alas, not even one. What a shame! Would have loved to have seen at least one failed Tomahawk out of 71.

Just one please.

In addition, there were 4 sites targeted. Each site was double tapped. And there were at least 10 missiles for each site in the first tap. And the same again in the second tap. There were 2 waves or taps. The facilities targeted were not just 4 buildings, but fairly extensive facilities of several buildings. Hence the number of Missiles.

And the Syrians only started firing their Air Defence after the first tap. The Satellite Images are consistent with that.

[Paphitis]

If you come up with a sound source, with evidence to fit the crime, which shows Assad was responsible then he should be treated like any other war criminal and that goes for any crime committed, not just using chemical weapons. The evidence so far does not support your profuse allegations ..... but common sense says it is far more likely the terrorists were responsible ..... and not for the first time and that HAS been proved to a high degree of probability with past allegations.

i don't think there was a chemical attack on the first place. The whole thing seems to have been planned and staged a long time ago for unknown reasons so far.
I am more inclined to beleive it was a demonstration of the capabilities of the Western weapons Vs the Russian defense systems.
Hence the aftermath concentrated on the absolute success of the Western strike while the other side saying half the Tomahawks missed their target.

That's right, there is no reason at all for a false flag. The Coalition was implementing its exit strategy.

The Russians and Assad got cocky and thought haha, they've gone and made a couple of statements that they were expecting a Chem Attack (because they had every intention of using Chemical Weapons on civilians) and they did use Chemical Weapons, and then engaged their plausible denial tactics and probably thought the Americans wouldn't do anything because they were on their way out.

They were wrong, and they got hit. And the Americans still want to get out, so that policy hasn't changed either but they did say that they will attack again if Chemical Weapons are used again.