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[Get Real!]

PS @ GR I have gone to the exit door on numerous occasions but have found it to be a revolving one which keeps bringing me back in !!

Same here and then along comes Dr Jerry with his ever so interesting political analyses and the door rotates me right back!

[Jerry]

Erol's phrase "intellectual colossas" made me laugh. Sounds a bit like "intellectual gollos". Could be applied to both participants much of the time. Both have 'seen off' contributors over the years; one with his aggressive pseudo smart-arse rudeness and the other with his nit picking and "forensic" dissection of his opponents point of view.

Thank God for the 5 intellectual posts you made since 2010 drawing hundreds of new memberships or this place would go bust… can't imagine why Admin hasn't put you on the payroll yet.

I can't believe you are so small minded that you have bothered to check up on my posts. You need to get a life outside CF; do you really think your "slick" put-downs encourage people to contribute to CF? YOU are the poison on CF, you and a few other aspiring keyboard thugs have made CF a no go area for many contributors.

[erolz66]

So you made 4671 posts and you have been visiting and posting in the forum for 14 years. Why??? Looking at your opinion about how "this forum is and always has been" it just doesn't add up! I think there must be something personal between you and the admin which we don't know about.

OK let me start, in light of the above, by 'conceding' that my claim 'and always has been' was a 'lazy' expression, and not actually a fair reflection of my personal views or 'reality'. The forum, how it is run, my 'relationship' with it and my views on what it 'is', at any given point in time, have all changed and evolved over time. Saying or giving the impression that these things have been and are all static states that have remained unchanging was not true and I retract them.

Having made that made that correction or amendment or 'u turn' if you prefer to my original post I still stand by that post. It is my opinion of what this forum 'is' at this point in time and has increasingly become over time.

Where as you see my 'posting history' as 'incompatible' or at odds with the above view I would suggest and claim that it is in fact the reverse. To me my pattern of posts, the frequency of them, what 'subjects' they are about and even 'to whom' I reply to or not are all entirely consistent with my (revised) view as to what I think the forum 'is'. At the risk of again expressing myself 'lazily' for brevitie's sake, as the forum and my view as to what it 'is' have evolved increasingly into 'it is on the whole a playground' so too has my frequency (and other aspects) of 'engaging' with it has decreased accordingly. The gaps between posting and not posting have got longer, the length of time that I do post when the 'exit door revolves' (great expression btw RichardB, would that I could express so much so well in such brevity) have decreased. So for me your 'conclusion' that my views as expressed (revised) do not 'add up' with my 'posting history' and thus this must mean there is 'something personal between me and the admin' that I am actively 'hiding', for which there is nothing in the content of my posting history that would support such a conclusion and much which is at odds with it, is a conclusion based on a false premise.

You wouldn't need to go into any "forensic dissection" if you already know the answer. So just tell us what are the views you or any other TC can have on the Cyprus problem or any other issue which would be censored in this forum. Earlier you gave the example of admin removing an ad promoting a GC owned hotel in the north... but that is an ad, not a political view. I am pretty sure that even the most extreme views from both sides on the Cyprus problem are allowed and can be found in this forum. And not only that but in this forum we have views which are pro-American, pro-Russian, pro-Assad, pro-ISIS etc. We aren't newbies here either and if there was some censorship of specific kind of views we would have noticed it.

I will reply to this but not right now. Inevitably my response will be 'long' and no doubt to many who even bother to read it 'tedious' for that is my character and the limits of my abilities, just as no doubt some or many will inevitably read it from a 'starting point' of 'distrust' looking for where and how I am seeking to 'deceive' and 'mislead', but I will, when I get time reply none the less.

[Get Real!]

Erol's phrase "intellectual colossas" made me laugh. Sounds a bit like "intellectual gollos". Could be applied to both participants much of the time. Both have 'seen off' contributors over the years; one with his aggressive pseudo smart-arse rudeness and the other with his nit picking and "forensic" dissection of his opponents point of view.

Thank God for the 5 intellectual posts you made since 2010 drawing hundreds of new memberships or this place would go bust… can't imagine why Admin hasn't put you on the payroll yet.

I can't believe you are so small minded that you have bothered to check up on my posts. You need to get a life outside CF; do you really think your "slick" put-downs encourage people to contribute to CF? YOU are the poison on CF, you and a few other aspiring keyboard thugs have made CF a no go area for many contributors.

Oh, I just couldn’t think of a reason why Admin isn’t paying you top dollar to entertain the crowds considering your credentials… what was it again? The Nof London Barber’s College, class of 1964?

[Get Real!]

OK let me start, in light of the above, ...

Hang 5... let me get a few psychiatrists to look into your dilemma because if the past is anything to go by it’s gonna be a long one…

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis;

I don't know where you come up with this stuff. you seem to always jump to a lot of assumptions and conclusions for no reason.

You should know!

I did not and do not ass lick. I just came up with a suggestion, and frankly do not even care if my suggestion is considered or not. I understand that in all likelihood, it won't be, but then that means the product isn't viable either especially with social media.

Come of it! What you exhibit is nothing short of idolatry, it’s almost orgasmic.

No one is going to come to Cyprus Forum when there are products like faceBook around.

I believe Facebook are losing thousands, if not millions, of members as they realize they are collecting and selling all their personal data or giving it to the security services.

One of the best things this forum can do is amalgamate with another, if they are interested in Google Advertising. let's face it, this forum would only get a few dollars a month from Advertising, probably only enough to buy 4 cups of coffee a month or a cup of coffee each week. Nothing more than that.

That would kill both Forums. Whose rules would such an amalgamation adopt? Both have their place.

At least on this Forum the threads are started exclusively by members ......... have you ever looked at CE Forum General page? Out of 70 threads on that single page, 50 were started by the site owner and generally have replies in single digits, maybe a third have no replies at all. That is not a criticism, just an observation of one large difference.

The moderation on here appears to be almost non-existent which means it may be the equivalent of the warning given on TV “The following contains flashing images!”...... if you don’t want to get ‘flashed’ close your eyes or change channels.

Paphitis, you seem so enamoured and smitten with the CE Forum .... and so disillusioned with this one ...... why did you come back here when so many people welcomed you with open arms for your intellectual contributions on the other Forum ?

[Paphitis]

So you made 4671 posts and you have been visiting and posting in the forum for 14 years. Why??? Looking at your opinion about how "this forum is and always has been" it just doesn't add up! I think there must be something personal between you and the admin which we don't know about.

OK let me start, in light of the above, by 'conceding' that my claim 'and always has been' was a 'lazy' expression, and not actually a fair reflection of my personal views or 'reality'. The forum, how it is run, my 'relationship' with it and my views on what it 'is', at any given point in time, have all changed and evolved over time. Saying or giving the impression that these things have been and are all static states that have remained unchanging was not true and I retract them.

Having made that made that correction or amendment or 'u turn' if you prefer to my original post I still stand by that post. It is my opinion of what this forum 'is' at this point in time and has increasingly become over time.

Where as you see my 'posting history' as 'incompatible' or at odds with the above view I would suggest and claim that it is in fact the reverse. To me my pattern of posts, the frequency of them, what 'subjects' they are about and even 'to whom' I reply to or not are all entirely consistent with my (revised) view as to what I think the forum 'is'. At the risk of again expressing myself 'lazily' for brevitie's sake, as the forum and my view as to what it 'is' have evolved increasingly into 'it is on the whole a playground' so too has my frequency (and other aspects) of 'engaging' with it has decreased accordingly. The gaps between posting and not posting have got longer, the length of time that I do post when the 'exit door revolves' (great expression btw RichardB, would that I could express so much so well in such brevity) have decreased. So for me your 'conclusion' that my views as expressed (revised) do not 'add up' with my 'posting history' and thus this must mean there is 'something personal between me and the admin' that I am actively 'hiding', for which there is nothing in the content of my posting history that would support such a conclusion and much which is at odds with it, is a conclusion based on a false premise.

You wouldn't need to go into any "forensic dissection" if you already know the answer. So just tell us what are the views you or any other TC can have on the Cyprus problem or any other issue which would be censored in this forum. Earlier you gave the example of admin removing an ad promoting a GC owned hotel in the north... but that is an ad, not a political view. I am pretty sure that even the most extreme views from both sides on the Cyprus problem are allowed and can be found in this forum. And not only that but in this forum we have views which are pro-American, pro-Russian, pro-Assad, pro-ISIS etc. We aren't newbies here either and if there was some censorship of specific kind of views we would have noticed it.

I will reply to this but not right now. Inevitably my response will be 'long' and no doubt to many who even bother to read it 'tedious' for that is my character and the limits of my abilities, just as no doubt some or many will inevitably read it from a 'starting point' of 'distrust' looking for where and how I am seeking to 'deceive' and 'mislead', but I will, when I get time reply none the less.

Erolz, you have been given free reign to post what you like on this forum.

I seriously doubt any GC will be extended the same rights on a TC forum. In addition, were anti Annan posters ridicules as "extremists" on your forum? There is such a fine line between free speech and totalitarianism such as what we see in Turkey and Pootin's Russia!

[Sotos]

... is a conclusion based on a false premise.

The false premise in this case would be your post which you have now revised... so you can't really blame me for that Based on your revised position even if something is bad with the forum, this isn't something fixed but something variable so this can't be the forum itself, its rules or the admin because those things hardly ever change. What can change are the members who participate, so it would come down to you not liking some members that currently participate here and then exaggerating that to make it seem like everything is bad.

I will reply to this but not right now. Inevitably my response will be 'long' and no doubt to many who even bother to read it 'tedious' for that is my character and the limits of my abilities, just as no doubt some or many will inevitably read it from a 'starting point' of 'distrust' looking for where and how I am seeking to 'deceive' and 'mislead', but I will, when I get time reply none the less.

Please no! Why does it have to be long and tedious? Why not short and to the point? Using the example you gave earlier with the hotel we could extrapolate that to the greatest extend possible and say "the admin doesn't allow posts that promote tourism in occupied Cyprus". See how easy that was? If there is indeed something that is censored in terms of political views then it shouldn't really be that hard to point out.

[Get Real!]

Paphitis, you seem so enamoured and smitten with the CE Forum .... and so disillusioned with this one ...... why did you come back here when so many people welcomed you with open arms for your intellectual contributions on the other Forum ?

How about a link to Paphitis’ contributions there… I could do with a laugh!

[Sotos]

In addition, were anti Annan posters ridicules as "extremists" on your forum? There is such a fine line between free speech and totalitarianism such as what we see in Turkey and Pootin's Russia!

He said that he personally voted against Annan. With that I assume that he wanted something even more in favor of the TCs than the Annan (i doubt it could be the other way around). Also people can ridicule the position of others in this forum as well so I don't think we are in a position to criticize him on this. But GR did talk about a down-voting system that was in place to silence the minorities.