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[Sotos]

The person who claimed he can make a better search engine than Google, on his own, in a year, ....

For what it is worth I actually wish GR well in his endeavours, be it creating an alternative browser, or creating a new search engine. It is not hard for me to imagine, back in the day, someone 'poo pooing' the idea that Sergey Brin and or Larry page were going to create a new kind of internet search engine that would topple the then giants like altavista and yahoo.

The Google guys where PhD students in computer science when they started their work on a search engine. GR is a middle age high school drop out. They started their work on search engines in 1996, just 5 years after the web was invented, today is 2018. As you said they had an innovative idea, GR doesn't. So no comparison whatsoever.

[Sotos]

I may actually write a search engine just to bust your balls again Sotos…

And when you see it action; fetching accurate results, you’ll pull out your keyboard and shove it down your throat to finish it all!

So, if you’ve got kids better let me know now so I don’t drive you to suicide.

The only way you can do a search engine is (a) to install an open source one, in which case it will be crap as its algorithms will be nowhere near as good as Google's and you will not even have a tiny fraction of the number of pages that Google has in its index or (b) to use a service that delivers the results and you doing just the input box to enter the search and then formatting the results that are given to you. In this case the results could be good depending on the service (even Google has an API to supply search results) but in neither case you would be "writing a search engine" (the bots, the algorithms, the database etc) because you are not capable of doing that

I recall you saying something similar about me writing a browser some years ago…

For "your" browser you are using Chromium, and what you added on top of it is crappy. Sure you can download an open source search engine and put it on a server but the result would again be crappy and it still wouldn't be a search engine that you wrote.

[Get Real!]

The Google guys where PhD students in computer science when they started their work on a search engine. GR is a middle age high school drop out. They started their work on search engines in 1996, just 5 years after the web was invented, today is 2018. As you said they had an innovative idea, GR doesn't. So no comparison whatsoever.

I reckon I'm doing pretty good for a HSD...

[Sotos]

The Google guys where PhD students in computer science when they started their work on a search engine. GR is a middle age high school drop out. They started their work on search engines in 1996, just 5 years after the web was invented, today is 2018. As you said they had an innovative idea, GR doesn't. So no comparison whatsoever.

I reckon I'm doing pretty good for a HSD...

Sure for "HSD" you might be doing pretty good. But are you as good as the whole team of Google engineers? No. Are you as good as even 1 of those people? No. Are you as good as even an intern at Google? No. So stop imagining that you can make a better browser or a better search engine than Google. Then again you can imagine whatever you want, but don't say it to others because you just make a fool of yourself.

[Get Real!]

The Google guys where PhD students in computer science when they started their work on a search engine. GR is a middle age high school drop out. They started their work on search engines in 1996, just 5 years after the web was invented, today is 2018. As you said they had an innovative idea, GR doesn't. So no comparison whatsoever.

I reckon I'm doing pretty good for a HSD...

Sure for "HSD" you might be doing pretty good. But are you as good as the whole team of Google engineers? No. Are you as good as even 1 of those people? No. Are you as good as even an intern at Google? No. So stop imagining that you can make a better browser or a better search engine than Google. Then again you can imagine whatever you want, but don't say it to others because you just make a fool of yourself.

Ok, so how does it feel that a HSD has written a “half-browser” while you; a uni graduate, has managed… err… none?

[Sotos]

The Google guys where PhD students in computer science when they started their work on a search engine. GR is a middle age high school drop out. They started their work on search engines in 1996, just 5 years after the web was invented, today is 2018. As you said they had an innovative idea, GR doesn't. So no comparison whatsoever.

I reckon I'm doing pretty good for a HSD...

Sure for "HSD" you might be doing pretty good. But are you as good as the whole team of Google engineers? No. Are you as good as even 1 of those people? No. Are you as good as even an intern at Google? No. So stop imagining that you can make a better browser or a better search engine than Google. Then again you can imagine whatever you want, but don't say it to others because you just make a fool of yourself.

Ok, so how does it feel that a HSD has written a “half-browser” while you; a uni graduate, has managed… err… none?

Why would I do such thing? I know I wouldn't be able to create and promote a browser that could take any significant market share, so why bother? I don't like wasting so much of my time, like you do!

[Paphitis]

Why would I do such thing? I know I wouldn't be able to create and promote a browser that could take any significant market share, so why bother? I don't like wasting so much of my time, like you do!

Sotos,

what is your professional opinion about Opera?

I put it on my machine and am over the moon with it. The reason why, is that I wanted to get away from Google and Google Products and tracking. I still use Google however because they give the best search results when I am looking for something in particular to buy for instance. I just prefer Duck Duck Go as a search engine for 90% of my Internet activity and Google for the other 10%

But I really like Opera. So lite and fast. Secure too with the Ghostery and HTTPS Add ons.

Also with battery saver mode, in built VPN and inbuilt add blocker.

[Get Real!]

Why would I do such thing? I know I wouldn't be able to create and promote a browser that could take any significant market share, so why bother? I don't like wasting so much of my time, like you do!

Sotos,

what is your professional opinion about Opera?

I put it on my machine and am over the moon with it. The reason why, is that I wanted to get away from Google and Google Products and tracking. I still use Google however because they give the best search results when I am looking for something in particular to buy for instance. I just prefer Duck Duck Go as a search engine for 90% of my Internet activity and Google for the other 10%

But I really like Opera. So lite and fast. Secure too with the Ghostery and HTTPS Add ons.

Also with battery saver mode, in built VPN and inbuilt add blocker.

He has never written anything in his life… you might as well be asking your next door neighbor for their “professional opinion”!

[Get Real!]

The Google guys where PhD students in computer science when they started their work on a search engine. GR is a middle age high school drop out. They started their work on search engines in 1996, just 5 years after the web was invented, today is 2018. As you said they had an innovative idea, GR doesn't. So no comparison whatsoever.

I reckon I'm doing pretty good for a HSD...

Sure for "HSD" you might be doing pretty good. But are you as good as the whole team of Google engineers? No. Are you as good as even 1 of those people? No. Are you as good as even an intern at Google? No. So stop imagining that you can make a better browser or a better search engine than Google. Then again you can imagine whatever you want, but don't say it to others because you just make a fool of yourself.

Ok, so how does it feel that a HSD has written a “half-browser” while you; a uni graduate, has managed… err… none?

Why would I do such thing? I know I wouldn't be able to create and promote a browser that could take any significant market share, so why bother? I don't like wasting so much of my time, like you do!

Re moucho-Kypreo… eneshis ybothesin gie mou… nomizis bos essas ixero?

[erolz66]

One word… paranoia.

Erol, you can press [Ctrl+Alt+Del] at any moment and you should be able to see if a keylogger or some other unwarranted program in running in memory as well as the opportunity to highlight it and select “End process” …I mean come on… this is Windows user 101 knowledge!

Amazingly everyone visits porn sites and no problems there... but testing a portable program written by an acquaintance... oh no call the Feds!

Again I have to ask if you are serious ?

The idea that you can effectively protect yourself from potential rouge or malicious code by simply listing the processes that are running on your machine and stopping ones that are malicious is just ridiculous. For so many reasons that I can not even be arsed to begin to detail them.

As is the idea that the degree of risk you expose yourself too by going to a malicious website is in any way comparable to the degree of risk you expose yourself to by running executable code on your machine directly. The level of risk just is not comparable in any way, and you must know this. The very idea is nonsense.

Also this idea that someone like myself or Sotos can not know what we are talking about because we do not have some piece of 'hobby code' that we can offer to others to run and play with and you do, is also ridiculous. I have no interest in entering in to a pissing contest with you about which of us is the 'better coder'. However the idea that I myself have never 'written code' is just not true. I have not done soon for quite a while but back in the day I wrote a lot of code. Can I show you this code ? No I can not because I do not own it. The reason that I do not own it, even though I wrote, is that I was paid to write it. Paid by people like Morgan Guarantee bank and frankly paid quite obscene amounts of money per hour to do so, especially given my age at the time I was doing such. As far as my career in 'writing code' went I progressed from 'writing code' to 'managing people who wrote code'. None of this is to denigrate your efforts to write yourself a browser nor is it an attempt to say 'I know more than you' or 'I can code better than you'. It is however denigrating this idea that because you have some self written 'hobby' code that you can and do offer to other people, this is somehow proof that you 'know what you are talking about' more than people without such hobby code to offer, or that you 'code better' than such people, be they me or Sotos or anyone else. It is just a BS notion.