LR:
On this matter - you’ve been wrong since day one. The more you desperately parrot output from the Kremlin, designed nowadays purely for domestic consumption, the more you come across as a useful idiot sycophant. Outside the box? Closed mind? Robotic? Can’t think for themselves? I agree.
But all the Kremlin have ever said is that they didn’t do it! There is nothing for me to ‘parrot’! It is you that parrots the official story. So far the UK have changed the story numerous times, failed to produce any real evidence, have refused to follow international conventions, have refused access by Russian Consular officials to the Skripal’s, have refused to cooperate with the Russian authorities and have done nothing except to demand from Russia/Putin an admission of guilt ............... a bit like you do with me!
Although you lacked the common decency to even read and try to understand what I previously wrote, before expressing your opinion, I will now précis it down to something a 10 year old could handle and ALL based on officially released information provided by the British Government and their sources.
The Skripals movement on 4/3/18 .... I repeat, all information courtesy HMG and their official sources ....... not The Kremlin’s output from their numerous troll factories or even crazy ‘
conspiracy theory’ web sites.
Skripal’s leave house around 9:15 as captured on CCTV; HMG says both were contaminated with a nerve agent on the front door handle; they drive off and both then go ‘
off-the-RADAR’ for about three hours; there are no videos of their movements in that period: they then reappear on CCTV’s around 13:00 heading for Salisbury town centre. Where they parked; they went to a shopping mall and then a Pub for a drink; then they went to Zizzi restaurant and had a shell fish risotto; they finished the meal and left; some time later at 16:45 they both collapsed unconscious on a park bench foaming at the mouth; luckily a near bye Police Sergeant in plain clothes (
DS Nick Bailey) went to their aid; someone called the medics; DS Nick Bailey left them being tended by a doctor; he then took the Skripal’s house keys and, presumably following normal procedures, he went to and entered the Skripals house; he too was contaminated with this nerve agent on the door handle; later he took himself off to the same hospital as the Skripal’s, when he too became unwell.
The Assasin’s movements .... I repeat again, all information provided by HMG and their sources. Video is the same source as you used The SUN ........... so it is obviously absolutely reliable. A police spokesman and a timeline ...........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG7IALXYvaA ..... the comments are also interesting!
Day 1: 2/3/18The GRU Assassins arrive together at Gatwick around 15:00 on a scheduled flight from Moscow; they travel to London Victoria then to Waterloo arriving around 18 -19:00; then they travelled to Stratford, East London by underground to Bow and booked into the City Stay Hotel in Bow Lane, just 130 miles from their target destination of Salisbury.
Day 2: 3/3/18They travel to Salisbury leaving Waterloo Station at 11:45 and arriving Salisbury 14:25; The police make no mention of what they did or where they went except to say they believe it was a reconnaissance; there appear to be no videos of their movements that day; the police say they left Salisbury at 16:10, less than 2 hrs after arriving; they visited neither Stonehenge or The Cathedral; they arrived back in Bow at 20:05 that evening; it was reported that they then had a sex and drugs fuelled party going on into the small hours.
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MI5/MI6 agents 2 months later, 4th May, found a minute trace of an ‘organophosphate compound’ on two swabs taken in the hotel room ...... but not enough to contaminate or affect anyone, (or to make a positive identification!) thus it raised no concerns for public health or safety. Further tests taken some time later, all came back negative.)Day 3. 4/3/18They left the hotel; they travelled from Bow to Waterloo 08:05 and caught a train to Salisbury where they were filmed arriving at 11:48; they wandered around the town and were filmed by a CCTV camera in a shop window
(time?); they were also filmed by an ESSO petrol station 400m from Skripal’s house (
11:58?)
**; the police believe they contaminated the Skripal’s house during that period with a liquid nerve agent; again they went to neither the Cathedral or Stonehenge; they were again on CCTV at the Fisherton St. junction shortly after 13:00; they returned leaving Salisbury around 13:30 taking the train to London, arriving 16:45; they later went by underground to Heathrow and caught a direct Aeroflot flight LHR to Moscow departing 22:30.
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**In a video released today (DM.3/10), they were also captured on CCTV at Wilton Road junction at 11:58. This junction is 1.2 miles from the station where they were captured on CCTV arriving at 11:48 and opposite the Esso petrol station ( A 25 min walk but they managed it in 10 !!!!) I think it reasonable to say the authenticity of this video is suspect .... don’t you?)
Once again........ I repeat, all information provided by HMG sources.
I realise you are neither capable of nor interested in, evaluating these events or capable of putting the two scenarios together on a common timeline. But if you did have the ability to analyse what you propagate, you would soon realise that, just based on evidence from HMG sources .........
The Skripals left the house and were contaminated about the same time these two ‘assassins’ were leaving Waterloo Station on a train bound for Salisbury, and they left some three hours before the Skripal’s were struck down!The ‘
assassins’ got to Salisbury around the time the Skripal’s came back from their RADAR avoiding trip; they both turned their phones off, one can only assume because they did not want to be tracked; the movements of the ‘
assassins’ we know approximately but they could not have been the ones who put nerve agent on the door knob before 9am.......
as they were not in Salisbury until almost three hours AFTER the Skripal’s were, according to HMG sources, contaminated with Russian made Military Grade Novichok A-234 nerve agent, sprayed on their front door handle. A substance so powerful that a single pin-head amount kills in less than a minute ............... except that on this occasion .............. it didn’t!
So, based only on HMG’s own evidence, only one story can be true but not both!
Either .......1)
Novichok on the door handle before 09:15 that day ..........in which case the timeline puts the assassins in the clear! HMG have then to .............. ‘
think-it-out-again’?
Difficult to do now, as they so positively announced to the World within a few days it being ‘highly likely’ it was a Russian attack with WMD’s, approved at the highest level of government and they had the evidence to prove it! Oooop’s........maybe a case of ‘liar-liar-pants-on-fire’?
OR ..... maybe one of two other options ............
2)
A bad shell fish risotto (Saxitoxin aka STX) .........
or the assassins did it and unseen by anyone, sprayed the food, glasses, cutlery ......whatever .... with this Novichok from a perfume bottle (
which has never been found), whilst not contaminating the staff or the premises.
The first probability clearly being the more likely as both Skripals went down at exactly the same time but without any significant evidence being found of nerve agent residue in the restaurant itself or the kitchen and by the time the Skripals arrived at Zizzi, the '
assassins' were both on a train on their way back to London!
Of course the most simple scenario is just a big joke to you and this inevitably takes the brunt of your sarcasm ..... although it just happens to fit all the evidence but very obviously not the HMG ’official’ explanation!
Were the Russians just a couple Russian mobsters up to no good, maybe working for the mafia ..... or maybe even the GRU?
WAS their presence just a coincidence?
WAS there another ‘
operation’ going on at that time?
Have the videos and other evidence been ‘
adjusted’ to suit HMG’s story? Because, whatever they
were up to, they didn’t do what they are accused of ....... HMG’s own evidence proves that!
So, what about the Russians angle? It is so very difficult to blame Russia without drifting into the realms of even more conspiracy theories which, without any doubt, Bellingcat can and will no doubt provide to order ..........and they will all be accepted by you without question!
So, as an outspoken and rather self opinionated Shill for HMG’s conspiracy theory ....... give us your take! It is clearly an impossible scenario based on the ‘official’ evidence! You won’t explain ..... you never have explained any of the many anomalies in the UK’s claims ..... but surprise me ...... explain away the contradiction between the two OFFICIAL HMG provided, timelines!IMO: Teresa May jumped on the US anti-Russia band wagon and just had to shoot her mouth off to the World within a few days when she blamed Russia and even the Russian Presiden, with no evidence or ‘
evidence’ so full of holes that she has yet to provide any of it for independent examination. She and her government all suffer from acute ‘Russiaphobia’ ...... just as you do!
She thought she could score points and demonise Russia and it is now impossible to back track out of this false narrative without making the UK Government and Security Services look like an outfit run by Mr.Bean! So now they call in Mr.Elliot Higgins (Citizen Journalist) and his company, Bellingcat, to clean up the crime scene !!!!
Russia says ........” We didn’t do it!” ...... and so far I, like many others, have seen nothing plausible that says they did!
And finally ........... a reasoned view I am sure I posted previously ..... and it makes a far more common sense read than the official fairy tale:
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/the-best-explanation-for-the-skripal-drama-is-food-poisoning.html .......... and I agree with him!
