supporttheunderdog wrote:Also strange how their passports are sequentially numbered....
They are friends, they applied at the same time?
supporttheunderdog wrote:Also strange how their passports are sequentially numbered....
CBBB wrote:supporttheunderdog wrote:Also strange how their passports are sequentially numbered....
They are friends, they applied at the same time?
supporttheunderdog wrote:"Alexander Petrov" and "Ruslan Boshirov" complained about the snow yet despite this alleged snow fall they are known to have managed to walk out to within a short distance of the Skripal's house,and back, close to two miles out of town, in the opposite direction to the Cathedral from the Station and where no one else seemed to have any trouble getting about town or to Stonehenge.
Why had they walked out there, in the alleged deep snow, rather than spend time in the Cathedral, with its clock, which in my view is worth about the time they are known to have spent in Salisbury, or e.g. find a cafe ?
They can hardly have got lost, as with its Spire, "It’s famous for its 123m spire " it is quite hard to not see where the Cathedral is ...
Also strange how their passports are sequentially numbered....
Robin Hood wrote:Is it any wonder I rarely add anything to the debates on this form no? I stick my head above the parapet and you leap out of the undergrowth, all tooled up with your arse on fire and ready for another self opinion driven rampant character assassination!
As I said 'Same old, same old'.
Londonrake wrote:Note the knee deep snow/slush, which apparently drove these Moscow boys back to London after less than 2 hours in Salisbury.
Also, the complete absence of anything which suggests “tourists”.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-455150 ... -salisbury
The Strange Russian Alibi - By Craig Murray
September 13, 2018 "Information Clearing House" - Like many, my first thought at the interview of Boshirov and Petrov – which apparently are indeed their names – is that they were very unconvincing. The interview itself seemed to be set up around a cramped table with a poor camera and lighting, and the interviewer seemed pretty hopeless at asking probing questions that would shed any real light.
I had in fact decided that their story was highly improbable, until I started seeing the storm of twitter posting, much of it from mainstream media journalists, which stated that individual things were impossible which were, in fact, not impossible at all.
The first and most obvious regards the weather on 3 and 4 March. It is in fact absolutely true that, if the two had gone down to Salisbury on 3 March with the intention of going to Stonehenge, they would have been unable to get there because of the snow. It is therefore perfectly possible that they went back the next day to try again; and public transport out of Salisbury was still severely disrupted, and many roads closed, on 4 March. Proof of this is not at all difficult to find.
The full article ......
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50255.htm
Londonrake wrote::lol:
Of course. There’s no way you would accept absolutely anything which disturbs your view. However, for somebody who regularly presents little more than highly prejudiced opinion, from fringe sites populated with people just like yourself, without a hint of “evidence”, to ask repeatedly for such, when it stares you in the face is - well - hypocritical? Food poisoning?
Looks like “selective” CCTV of the 2 walking through snowless Salisbury to me and I’m pretty sure to any reasonable person.
You’ve been shopping at the opinion clearing house then.
If in your desperation you have to rely on what a well known touchy-feely, knee-jerk poster, who usually hasn’t got much of a clue what they’re talking about, on another forum for support ..................Oh, dear!
Must be frustrating for you. Gotta curb that anger thing. Ultimately it’s always tended to backfire.
Speakin’ of which. Inciting others to do violence on your behalf is a criminal offence. I’ve got a very damning first half of the picture, as thought by all who have seen it (evidence ). If there’s ever any hint of the other half appearing I suspect you would find the way things spin out of control breathtaking.
It’s a chat Forum, after all. Not the centre of the bleedin’ universe. As CBBB said, you should get a life.
PS. The CPS - a notoriously conservative body - have said that there is enough evidence to put these two guys on trial, with an excellent chance of conviction. Of course, as with the 2 who murdered Litivenko, that's never going to happen.
Lynch Mob Mentality
I am astonished by the hatred that has been unleashed.
By Craig Murray
September 14, 2018 "Information Clearing House" - I was caught in a twitterstorm of hatred yesterday, much of it led by mainstream media journalists like David Aaronovitch and Dan Hodges, for daring to suggest that the basic elements of Boshirov and Petrov’s story do in fact stack up. What became very plain quite quickly was that none of these people had any grasp of the detail of the suspects’ full twenty minute interview, but had just seen the short clips or quotes as presented by British corporate and state media.
As I explained in my last post, what first gave me some sympathy for the Russians’ story and drew me to look at it closer, was the raft of social media claims that there was no snow in Salisbury that weekend and Stonehenge had not been closed. In fact, Stonehenge was indeed closed on 3 March by heavy snow, as confirmed by English Heritage. So the story that they came to Salisbury on 3 March but could not go to Stonehenge because of heavy snow did stand up, contrary to almost the entire twittersphere.
Once there was some pushback of truth about this on social media, people started triumphantly posting the CCTV images from 4 March to prove that there was no snow lying in Central Salisbury on 4 March. But nobody ever said there was snow on 4 March – in fact Borisov and Petrov specifically stated that they learnt there was a thaw so they went back. However when they got there, they encountered heavy sleet and got drenched through. That accords precisely with the photographic evidence in which they are plainly drenched through.
Interesting ..... another bit of Mr.Plods ‘evidence’ trashed........
............. and here the safety of the identification of the microscopic traces of novichok allegedly found in their hotel bedroom is key. I am no scientist, but I have been told by someone who is, that if the particle(s) were as the police state so small as to be harmless to humans, they would be too small for mass spectrometry analysis and almost certainly could not be firmly identified other than as an organophosphate (i.e. Cleaning materials! ..... in a cheap hotel room? ...... never!.....must have been Russian cleaning materials ..... kills all known germs/Discredited MI6 & GRU Agents/drunks/drug addicts and drop outs in general!) Perhaps someone qualified might care to comment.
Full article ......... read it here ..... you won’t find it in the Daily Mail/Guardian/Telegraph etc ...... although you might find it in Sputnik or RT, in the 'Breaking Propaganda' section!!
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50264.htm
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