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[Pyrpolizer]

The MSM can’t because unlike the independent sites, they have limitations They simply do not have the column inches to do that and they have to comply with editorial policy. The same limits do not apply to the independents ....

i am surprised to hear that because all Cypriot and Greek newspapers do that only on their first page and usually on their online editions.
However when they do have an important interview they do include it as a whole in the inner pages.
No important person-politician businessman EU official- would ever accept to give an exclusive interview allowing the paper to just use the parts it likes-which in most cases could be out of context.

And as I suspected this is the case with the MSM as well.
Here's an example of a full interview in NYT. Plenty of others around.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/02/realestate/commercial/a-conversation-with-paul-l-whalen.html?rref=collection%2Fcolumn%2Fthe-30-minute-interview&action=click&contentCollection=realestate&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=3&pgtype=collection

[Pyrpolizer]

The media didn't mention an interview.

Only the NYT mentioned, "in an interview" which could mean anything.

It could actually mean a media briefing, media release, or an actual interview which the NYT never claimed.

Only the Guardian claimed it from the NYT article, which was wrong.

But quite frankly, I think you are way off to suggest any fake news and then claim other fringe sites as being gospel.

The Guardian is Britain's version of Haravgi! Their bias goes towards the hard left. But I wouldn't call them Fake. They are actually quite a reasonable source for the most part even though I don't agree with their political agenda which I think is total bullshit!

That is the thing with the UK. They have a completely pluralist and free media which I can only support and admire.

Bottom line is this. The OPCW has confirmed beyond any doubt that the substance detected on 3 poisoned individuals in the UK (including a police officer) was military grade Novichok.

There has not been an interview, forget about it. This was just FAKE news.
No chief of such a prestigious organization would ever give such an interview sprouting out total nonsense combined with total ignorance.
You do agree that what he said in the alleged "interview" was total nonsense and ignorance don't you?

[Robin Hood]

Robin Hood wrote:

The MSM can’t because unlike the independent sites, they have limitations They simply do not have the column inches to do that and they have to comply with editorial policy. The same limits do not apply to the independents ....

Pyrpolizer:

i am surprised to hear that because all Cypriot and Greek newspapers do that only on their first page and usually on their online editions.

I agree when that is applied to a statement from a person of importance on a subject of interest, say Anastasiades on a meeting with the TC’s but consider Putins annual ‘meet the people’ conference it goes on for a couple of hours or so, or a long statement made in Congress or the Senate, or even a Parliamentary debate? The only place you will see these is on YouTube, a transcript for less 'important' people on the independent sites, and say official Government/UN/NATO sites.

However when they do have an important interview they do include it as a whole in the inner pages.

Within the limits that restrain their coverage.

No important person-politician businessman EU official- would ever accept to give an exclusive interview allowing the paper to just use the parts it likes-which in most cases could be out of context.

Unfortunately though this is what frequently happens! Isn't that the principal of propaganda ..... push the aspects that suit the cause. It is only by looking at the whole picture as far as is possible that you or I as individuals, can decide what to believe and what to guide our opinions.

And as I suspected this is the case with the MSM as well.
Here's an example of a full interview in NYT. Plenty of others around
.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/02/real ... lacement=3

I haven’t looked at this yet .... but I will!

BTW: Did you watch the ‘Going Underground’ interview with John Pilger ...... it was on RT again this morning. He talks a lot of sense.

[Pyrpolizer]

BTW: Did you watch the ‘Going Underground’ interview with John Pilger ...... it was on RT again this morning. He talks a lot of sense.

I don't have bookmarks for RT, or Saker or the other sites you quote. I only follow links you provide, assuming there's some summary of what's the article all about.
Is this the link?
https://www.rt.com/shows/going-undergro ... ury-yemen/
I have other interests as well, and ever since I came back to this forum I found it's consuming too much of my time.

[Robin Hood]

BTW: Did you watch the ‘Going Underground’ interview with John Pilger ...... it was on RT again this morning. He talks a lot of sense.

I don't have bookmarks for RT, or Saker or the other sites you quote. I only follow links you provide, assuming there's some summary of what's the article all about.
Is this the link?
https://www.rt.com/shows/going-undergro ... ury-yemen/
I have other interests as well, and ever since I came back to this forum I found it's consuming too much of my time.

Yes .... that's the one.

The one thing I have is time on my hands! The older I get the more concerned I get about what is going on in this world of ours ...... and it is not an encouraging scene. The World seems to be heading for nothing but conflict but there is little or nothing as an individual that I can do about it ..... unfortunately! All I can do is keep myself informed and even that is becoming more difficult as more control is applied to searches on the internet on any controversial political topics or stories, like the Skripal one for instance.

Thank you for contributing a bit of rationality and sense to this thread and others, in place of confrontation.

[Pyrpolizer]

The World seems to be heading for nothing but conflict but there is little or nothing as an individual that I can do about it ....

My daughter will be getting married with a guy whose mother is sort of "spiritual" she even advises my daughter how to achieve her goals in life...
Well she advocates that the mere learning and formulating your own mind affects everybody. This is what we can achieve from behind our screens imo.
Btw I lost my sleep yesterday after watching "Gaza in tears". I proposed it to my wife but she couldn't continue watching after the first plane bombed civilian neighborhoods ... Regardless, I am glad I saw it all, as I think this "spiritual" thing works.

NB.Thank you too. Thanks to Paphitis and LR for helping push the discussion and learning as well.

[Robin Hood]

The World seems to be heading for nothing but conflict but there is little or nothing as an individual that I can do about it ....

My daughter will be getting married with a guy whose mother is sort of "spiritual" she even advises my daughter how to achieve her goals in life...
Well she advocates that the mere learning and formulating your own mind affects everybody. This is what we can achieve from behind our screens imo.
Btw I lost my sleep yesterday after watching "Gaza in tears". I proposed it to my wife but she couldn't continue watching after the first plane bombed civilian neighborhoods ... Regardless, I am glad I saw it all, as I think this "spiritual" thing works.

NB.Thank you too. Thanks to Paphitis and LR for helping push the discussion and learning as well.

SNAP ..... my wife is also sort of 'Spiritual'! She is a Reiki Master and is into energy flows, signs, symbols, healing and a Universal Life force. (NOT A GOD!!!!) I have to say although I don't see a practical explanation for it, I tend to accept there is 'something' there until I see something to the contrary. She has had some really weird sessions with Derek Acorah the psychic and the mind boggles .... he came up with things he had absolutely no way of knowing about and it convinced even a born sceptic and Atheist like me, as to there being something more to our journey through 'time and space' (for want of another description) .... than just this life, something that is incomprehensible to us.

[Londonrake]

I have other interests as well, and ever since I came back to this forum I found it's consuming too much of my time.

Yes. I've been away for 24 hours, then pop in to find that things have moved on to such an extent that there are a dozen issues which I could try to address. "Life" gets in the way of course. Whilst RH enjoys his hobby and clearly has a lot of time on his hands to pursue it, most don't. How on earth Paphitis manages to contribute so many posts beats me. Moreover, why RH seems so desperately to want to get rid of us both (and we wouldn't by any means be the first - trust me) when we provide material that he can use to bounce off - rather than end up just talking to himself - is one of life's great mysteries.

You try to steer a line between issues Pyro. As I imagine any good Admin would. And it seems that opposing views have a tendency to vie for your favour. Bordering on sycophancy on some occasions I think.

Not answering all points raised should not I submit be regarded as acceptance of their rightness though.

[Robin Hood]

I have other interests as well, and ever since I came back to this forum I found it's consuming too much of my time.

Yes. I've been away for 24 hours, then pop in to find that things have moved on to such an extent that there are a dozen issues which I could try to address. "Life" gets in the way of course. Whilst RH enjoys his hobby and clearly has a lot of time on his hands to pursue it, most don't. How on earth Paphitis manages to contribute so many posts beats me. Moreover, why RH seems so desperately to want to get rid of us both (and we wouldn't by any means be the first - trust me) when we provide material that he can use to bounce off - rather than end up just talking to himself - is one of life's great mysteries.

You try to steer a line between issues Pyro. As I imagine any good Admin would. And it seems that opposing views have a tendency to vie for your favour. Bordering on sycophancy on some occasions I think.

Not answering all points raised should not I submit be regarded as acceptance of their rightness though.

You just never give up do you? Another one of your 'squeak-squeak' posts that contributes nothing but your opinion and doesn't warrant a reply. At least it wasn't a TLDR epistle of abuse for a change!

[Londonrake]

I wasn't talking to you.