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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby miltiades » Thu May 03, 2018 9:16 am

Typical of you General , when did I, unlike you, brag about my finances ? Something, unlike you, I never do. Your investments can not possibly produce financial rewards, you are far too stupid to achieve wealth as you tend to move here and there to earn a living, unlike my self 56 years in the UK and just over a year in Paradise island. No more
fucking work, fishing, plenty of wine and now and then spoil my other third.
By the way, any chance of ....lending me a few quid ? Need a couple of Polo shirts, a shop down the road has some at .....150 euros each, no fucking pockets either. Some sucker with too much money and no fucking sense will no doubt fall for it.
Talking of pretentious prices for Chinese/ Bangladesh made clothing, are Cypriots really so fucking naive? Saw a belt in this shop at a snip of a price 55 euros !!!
A pair of torn jeans, they looked 100 years old at just 175 euros, thats about 50 bottles of wine !!! Fuck that, I said to the sales assistant !!!
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu May 03, 2018 10:51 am

Paphitis wrote:Germany and Italy have NOT asked for anything because they wouldn't have acted without information.

And they still withdrew their diplomats so I take it that the information was forthcoming as you would most certainly expect.

None of the 28 countries have backtracked or offered anything other than their full support to the UK.


This made me laugh. Do you honestly beleive it?

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-france ... air-2018-3
France: We don’t do fantasy politics

https://www.ft.com/content/8836cff0-31a ... c6fdc22f03
Germany:

German politicians divided over expulsion of Russian diplomats

Rolf Mutzenich, a senior Social Democrat MP, described the expulsion as "too hasty", telling the newspaper Die Welt that it "did not meet the political criteria that should have applied" in the case of Mr Skripal’s poisoning.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeatin ... d7291a5b1c

While Expelling Diplomats, Germany Quietly Increases Dependence On Russian Gas


The EU
https://www.ft.com/content/8836cff0-31a ... c6fdc22f03
Mr Verheugen, who was EU commissioner from 1999 to 2010, added: "The attitude that, if in doubt, Putin and the Russians are to blame for everything, is poisonous and must stop."


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/27/russian ... grows.html

List of countries that expelled Russian Diplomats.

UK: Expelled 23 Russians alleged to have worked as spies under diplomatic cover. It also promised to freeze any Russian state assets that "may be used to threaten the life or property of U.K. nationals or residents."
US: Expelling 60 Russians, including 12 intelligence officers from Russia's mission to the UN headquarters in New York. Closing Russian consulate in Seattle.
CANADA: Expelling four Russians alleged to have worked as spies or interfered in Canadian affairs under diplomatic cover. Denying three applications for Russian diplomatic staff.
FRANCE: Expelling four diplomats
GERMANY: Expelling four diplomats
POLAND: Expelling four diplomats
ITALY: Expelling two diplomats
SPAIN: Expelling two diplomats
LITHUANIA: Expelling three diplomats
CZECH REPUBLIC: Expelling three diplomats
CROATIA: Expelling one diplomat
NETHERLANDS: Expelling two diplomats
DENMARK: Expelling two diplomats
NORWAY: Expelling one diplomat
LATVIA: Expelling one diplomat
SWEDEN: Expelling one diplomat
ALBANIA: Expelling two diplomats
ESTONIA: Expelling one diplomat
FINLAND: Expelling one diplomat
HUNGARY: Expelling one diplomat
UKRAINE: Expelling 13 Russian diplomats
ROMANIA: Expelling one diplomat
AUSTRALIA: Expelling 2 Russian diplomats, said it might boycott the soccer World Cup.


Compare the number of 23 Russian Diplomats that the UK has expelled with the 0-4 that most of the EU Countries have expelled.
Does that tell you anyone was convinced?
No I am not convinced the child was crying for any particular reason but it wouldn't cost me anything buying it an ice cream just to shut it up. Problem is it's still crying! :lol:



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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Paphitis » Thu May 03, 2018 11:03 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Germany and Italy have NOT asked for anything because they wouldn't have acted without information.

And they still withdrew their diplomats so I take it that the information was forthcoming as you would most certainly expect.

None of the 28 countries have backtracked or offered anything other than their full support to the UK.


This made me laugh. Do you honestly beleive it?

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-france ... air-2018-3
France: We don’t do fantasy politics

https://www.ft.com/content/8836cff0-31a ... c6fdc22f03
Germany:

German politicians divided over expulsion of Russian diplomats

Rolf Mutzenich, a senior Social Democrat MP, described the expulsion as "too hasty", telling the newspaper Die Welt that it "did not meet the political criteria that should have applied" in the case of Mr Skripal’s poisoning.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeatin ... d7291a5b1c

While Expelling Diplomats, Germany Quietly Increases Dependence On Russian Gas


The EU
https://www.ft.com/content/8836cff0-31a ... c6fdc22f03
Mr Verheugen, who was EU commissioner from 1999 to 2010, added: "The attitude that, if in doubt, Putin and the Russians are to blame for everything, is poisonous and must stop."


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/27/russian ... grows.html

List of countries that expelled Russian Diplomats.

UK: Expelled 23 Russians alleged to have worked as spies under diplomatic cover. It also promised to freeze any Russian state assets that "may be used to threaten the life or property of U.K. nationals or residents."
US: Expelling 60 Russians, including 12 intelligence officers from Russia's mission to the UN headquarters in New York. Closing Russian consulate in Seattle.
CANADA: Expelling four Russians alleged to have worked as spies or interfered in Canadian affairs under diplomatic cover. Denying three applications for Russian diplomatic staff.
FRANCE: Expelling four diplomats
GERMANY: Expelling four diplomats
POLAND: Expelling four diplomats
ITALY: Expelling two diplomats
SPAIN: Expelling two diplomats
LITHUANIA: Expelling three diplomats
CZECH REPUBLIC: Expelling three diplomats
CROATIA: Expelling one diplomat
NETHERLANDS: Expelling two diplomats
DENMARK: Expelling two diplomats
NORWAY: Expelling one diplomat
LATVIA: Expelling one diplomat
SWEDEN: Expelling one diplomat
ALBANIA: Expelling two diplomats
ESTONIA: Expelling one diplomat
FINLAND: Expelling one diplomat
HUNGARY: Expelling one diplomat
UKRAINE: Expelling 13 Russian diplomats
ROMANIA: Expelling one diplomat
AUSTRALIA: Expelling 2 Russian diplomats, said it might boycott the soccer World Cup.


Compare the number of 23 Russian Diplomats that the UK has expelled with the 0-4 that most of the EU Countries have expelled.
Does that tell you anyone was convinced?
No I am not convinced the child was crying for any particular reason but it wouldn't cost me anything buying it an ice cream just to shut it up. Problem is it's still crying! :lol:





Australia only expelled 2. They were pretty damn convinced.

And if they were not convinced, they wouldn't have even expelled 1. It is actually a very major slap in the face. These Diplomats will never be able to come back to Australia. What is worse, is that any diplomats expelled by any of the other countries will NEVER be allowed into Australia and I believe it applies to everyone else.

You don't have to go crazy to make a point is what they would argue. What that means is that they are being sensible and responsible which is something Pootin is not.

However, I myself am not as responsible or tolerant. I would have prefered a bigger statement. Such as complete closure of Russia's Embassy. they have no place in Australia. We do not want them. They can go to hell as far as we are concerned.

We do not trust them. they really are extremely evil, especially over MH17. No one will forget. Imagine if there were 45 Cypriots on that plane?
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Paphitis » Thu May 03, 2018 11:10 am

miltiades wrote:Typical of you General , when did I, unlike you, brag about my finances ? Something, unlike you, I never do. Your investments can not possibly produce financial rewards, you are far too stupid to achieve wealth as you tend to move here and there to earn a living, unlike my self 56 years in the UK and just over a year in Paradise island. No more
fucking work, fishing, plenty of wine and now and then spoil my other third.
By the way, any chance of ....lending me a few quid ? Need a couple of Polo shirts, a shop down the road has some at .....150 euros each, no fucking pockets either. Some sucker with too much money and no fucking sense will no doubt fall for it.
Talking of pretentious prices for Chinese/ Bangladesh made clothing, are Cypriots really so fucking naive? Saw a belt in this shop at a snip of a price 55 euros !!!
A pair of torn jeans, they looked 100 years old at just 175 euros, thats about 50 bottles of wine !!! Fuck that, I said to the sales assistant !!!


You bragged just a couple of hours ago in this very thread. I mentioned nothing about finances.

Yes you are a retired pensioner. Well done, because you are also a gazillion years old with one foot in the coffin.

Nothing wrong with buying nice clothes. So how wealthy are you then?

Anyway, I have other expensive tastes. My vices are expensive fast cars.

As to my wealth, I have a lot of property and land. Rental Homes and Commercials and I have weekly and monthly rents come through. I can retire if I want to. I have a lot of residual income and am easily able to go here or there, and even if I am jobless I still have income.

My family has been in Australia since the 1950s, and as a family, we have really progressed through a lot of hard work and a little luck and good fortune too. We have had some misfortune too, but overall we have all had a good run.

But the biggest thing we have is our health and a happy family. It's not good to gloat. You got to learn a bit about grace.

BTW, its the last time I will donate to your stupid causes so that you can grandstand.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu May 03, 2018 11:15 am

Paphitis wrote:
Flying planes is a very easy job. What is hard, is being away all the time and the travel. Most people think it is nice but after a few years, it really wears very thin and it is extremely tiresome too. You just can't get comfortable. And you miss all the simple things most people take for granted. Family life is hard. And as you get older, it is harder to stay medically fit so you always got that time bomb too.

And you are always moving around. You hardly get much chance to settle anywhere that you really want to settle to that is.

Right now, my family is actually in the throes of having to move (probably permanently) to the USA because I have been offered employment with a US legacy Carrier and they are willing to pay all my expenses and sponsor me and my family on an E3 VISA. That is such a very difficult thing to do. Job is great, money is good, location (Newark or Dulles) not so great, but there are some perks like free travel for the family so they can spend a couple of months in either Greece or Cyprus whenever they like. If they get sick of the US, they can just get on a plane and go. That is probably the only thing keeping my marriage alive. Most colleagues are up to their 3rd marriages by my age, and I am amazed I have managed to buck that trend.

Of course, I won't take credit for this. I am just fortunate that my Kybrea wife has been very good to me and a fighter and a pretty tough cookie too. She is adventurous which helps a lot but I have really put her to the test.



Although off topic I feel I must congratulate you for your honest account. I often advice my already grown up children that nothing is easy in life.
I abandoned Engineering for business myself because I had no other choice.People think doing business means raining money. Not at all.It still needs very hard work.
You may get bankrupt easily... 3 times I did risky things that brought me near to bankruptcy. I just survived and don't give a shit about money anymore.

I think I am kind of claustrophobic. The idea of spending too many hours of my life in a metallic box (like a plane) is enough to cause me severe depression that I would never be able to overcome. I am sure if I were a pilot I would abandon the profession.

Wish you all the best if you choose to settle in the US.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Paphitis » Thu May 03, 2018 11:33 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Flying planes is a very easy job. What is hard, is being away all the time and the travel. Most people think it is nice but after a few years, it really wears very thin and it is extremely tiresome too. You just can't get comfortable. And you miss all the simple things most people take for granted. Family life is hard. And as you get older, it is harder to stay medically fit so you always got that time bomb too.

And you are always moving around. You hardly get much chance to settle anywhere that you really want to settle to that is.

Right now, my family is actually in the throes of having to move (probably permanently) to the USA because I have been offered employment with a US legacy Carrier and they are willing to pay all my expenses and sponsor me and my family on an E3 VISA. That is such a very difficult thing to do. Job is great, money is good, location (Newark or Dulles) not so great, but there are some perks like free travel for the family so they can spend a couple of months in either Greece or Cyprus whenever they like. If they get sick of the US, they can just get on a plane and go. That is probably the only thing keeping my marriage alive. Most colleagues are up to their 3rd marriages by my age, and I am amazed I have managed to buck that trend.

Of course, I won't take credit for this. I am just fortunate that my Kybrea wife has been very good to me and a fighter and a pretty tough cookie too. She is adventurous which helps a lot but I have really put her to the test.



Although off topic I feel I must congratulate you for your honest account. I often advice my already grown up children that nothing is easy in life.
I abandoned Engineering for business myself because I had no other choice.People think doing business means raining money. Not at all.It still needs very hard work.
You may get bankrupt easily... 3 times I did risky things that brought me near to bankruptcy. I just survived and don't give a shit about money anymore.

I think I am kind of claustrophobic. The idea of spending too many hours of my life in a metallic box (like a plane) is enough to cause me severe depression that I would never be able to overcome. I am sure if I were a pilot I would abandon the profession.

Wish you all the best if you choose to settle in the US.


Business has its other challenges. It takes a long time building a strong viable business and you could lose money in the process before you get there. Some people just stuff up and go into bankruptcy.

Careers in Aviation, or Law, or medicine (insert any career you like) have their advantages and disadvantages.

The biggest advantage is if you enjoy your job. If you enjoy your job, then its like you don't work. Well kind of.

The biggest bummer in Aviation, is your family life, moving around, and all the travel (which is nice in the beginning only). Even little things like home cooked meals, being with your loved ones, and friends. In fact, it can be very lonely.

But overall, aviation is been great to me and provided me with a lot of adventure. I have completed the best flying I am ever going to do, believe it or not all pilots do the best flying in the early part of their careers.

But I am also thinking long-term - for instance, US citizenship. It is very hard to get, almost impossible. But now if I stay there, I will get it, but more importantly, my kids will get it. There are huge advantages in my opinion.

Bottom line, I have mixed feelings - feelings that are really good, but also feelings that are not so good. First of all, winters are pretty harsh for Australians. It would be alright if it was California but it isn't and temperatures get to below freezing with snow. :(
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby miltiades » Thu May 03, 2018 12:16 pm

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:Typical of you General , when did I, unlike you, brag about my finances ? Something, unlike you, I never do. Your investments can not possibly produce financial rewards, you are far too stupid to achieve wealth as you tend to move here and there to earn a living, unlike my self 56 years in the UK and just over a year in Paradise island. No more
fucking work, fishing, plenty of wine and now and then spoil my other third.
By the way, any chance of ....lending me a few quid ? Need a couple of Polo shirts, a shop down the road has some at .....150 euros each, no fucking pockets either. Some sucker with too much money and no fucking sense will no doubt fall for it.
Talking of pretentious prices for Chinese/ Bangladesh made clothing, are Cypriots really so fucking naive? Saw a belt in this shop at a snip of a price 55 euros !!!
A pair of torn jeans, they looked 100 years old at just 175 euros, thats about 50 bottles of wine !!! Fuck that, I said to the sales assistant !!!


You bragged just a couple of hours ago in this very thread. I mentioned nothing about finances.

Yes you are a retired pensioner. Well done, because you are also a gazillion years old with one foot in the coffin.

Nothing wrong with buying nice clothes. So how wealthy are you then?

Anyway, I have other expensive tastes. My vices are expensive fast cars.

As to my wealth, I have a lot of property and land. Rental Homes and Commercials and I have weekly and monthly rents come through. I can retire if I want to. I have a lot of residual income and am easily able to go here or there, and even if I am jobless I still have income.

My family has been in Australia since the 1950s, and as a family, we have really progressed through a lot of hard work and a little luck and good fortune too. We have had some misfortune too, but overall we have all had a good run.

But the biggest thing we have is our health and a happy family. It's not good to gloat. You got to learn a bit about grace.

BTW, its the last time I will donate to your stupid causes so that you can grandstand.

Sp you are the one thats filthy rich !!
Fast cars too! Oh boy you are a dreamer!!
Have you got a ....boat ?? Or is it a dingy!!
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Thu May 03, 2018 12:43 pm

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Robin Hood wrote:WTF do you bother to come onto this Forum because you have very little to contribute?

Is it just to try and personally attack me to make you feel good about yourself? Or Is it because your other site is all but on life support and nobody is talking to you any more. That is no bloody wonder considering the reputation you are very rapidly gaining on here ! :roll:


But the Israelis have never threatened Iran with a nuclear attack. :?

How can they, they do not even admit to having Nuclear/Biological/Chemical weapons and deny any inspections by UN agencies. So any threat verbal or actual by Israel has to be taken as nuclear and most likely would be if their aggression against Iran invoked a response. So that is parroting Moscow propaganda? If that is how you view it you must be pretty thick ..... it is the result of critical thinking

Please prove me wrong. And - you do - absolutely - parrot everything that comes out of Moscow. No? Tell me when you have once - ever - expressed absolutely any doubt about the St Petersburgh line? :? Err, never actually. And the likes of myself and Paphitis are "sheep" it seems :lol:

No, you two are virtually on your own as the only people on here who express '..... absolutely no doubt about the Washington/London/NATO line on ANY events that target Russia/ Iran/ North Korea. That makes YOU sheep!

There is no point in providing any back up to any argument as you just ridicule the source, the opinion and the author. In fact you spend more time trying to discredit the source and author than you ever do checking the content out. You and Paphitis are the same, neither of you provide answers ........ just more demands for proof from others. But you are smarter than Paphitis, which I agree is not too difficult, and you can apply sarcasm ..... I suppose that comes with practice to someone who uses it as much as you do?

And no - CEO is not on "life support". Moreover, I talk to a lot of people.

Looks pretty dead to me! You must do all your talking by e-mail! :roll: The forum is virtually dying on its feet, shame because people like you have driven people like me away from entering into and discussion or contact with you and it reflects on the forum.

What reputation? Although, I really don't care about that sort of thing.

Mr Big Guy, ex-military know all, pompous ass, sarcastic, arrogant, superior .... typical cocky Brit that others around the World dislike so much. You make it bad for the rest of us fairly normal people.

You had a good chance to draw a line under things and start over on good terms. You were far too arrogant to do that though (like your arrogance in never admitting being wrong or apologising for anything.) Now...................... live with it ............................in this petty, shallow world which you apparently find so terribly important. :wink: I will always be here for you X

That is true, I did draw a line but didn't capitulate to you ..... I left that forum, came here, briefly returned, you started again, I lost my rag and you complained to the Owner .... that you were being threatened :lol: :lol: ..... I came here, you followed me and started all over again. You act just like Netanyahu its all about other peoples threat against you! You start the trouble and are surprised when your victim stands his ground or, heaven forbid, has the temerity to actually fight back! :? :o

It has happened several times on here and not just with me. Have you ever wondered why you have this effect on other members?




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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Thu May 03, 2018 12:58 pm

Paphitis wrote:No I do not brag about my finances. I'm just comfortable. And I'm not rich at all. But I reckon I am more well off than you are, by a mile.

As to being a pilot, well that is what I am and have been all my life. If people ask me what I do, I tell them. If I was a garbage collector I will tell them that too. I don't see any shame in any person earning a living, and there are many more impressive jobs than just being a pilot. I guess it is all subjective, but a Doctor is more impressive, perhaps even a Lawyer or an Engineer. My wife has done some pretty impressive stuff in one of the most brutal industries in the world. Not good to grade people's professions really. I could say that you are just a pots and pans salesman, and it will be true, but a little low of me I must admit because you provided for your family.

Flying planes is a very easy job. What is hard, is being away all the time and the travel. Most people think it is nice but after a few years, it really wears very thin and it is extremely tiresome too. You just can't get comfortable. And you miss all the simple things most people take for granted. Family life is hard. And as you get older, it is harder to stay medically fit so you always got that time bomb too.

And you are always moving around. You hardly get much chance to settle anywhere that you really want to settle to that is.

Right now, my family is actually in the throes of having to move (probably permanently) to the USA because I have been offered employment with a US legacy Carrier and they are willing to pay all my expenses and sponsor me and my family on an E3 VISA. That is such a very difficult thing to do. Job is great, money is good, location (Newark or Dulles) not so great, but there are some perks like free travel for the family so they can spend a couple of months in either Greece or Cyprus whenever they like. If they get sick of the US, they can just get on a plane and go. That is probably the only thing keeping my marriage alive. Most colleagues are up to their 3rd marriages by my age, and I am amazed I have managed to buck that trend.

Of course, I won't take credit for this. I am just fortunate that my Kybrea wife has been very good to me and a fighter and a pretty tough cookie too. She is adventurous which helps a lot but I have really put her to the test.

If I were you I wouldn't be bragging about your finances or your debonair charisma. Let me give you a tip! The way you carry on online is vulgar and very unimpressive. There is NOTHING charismatic about your behaviour or your vitriolic posts. It just goes to show that you are very ill-equipped and lacking in the brains department.


My advise to you! Having spent yhree decades working for major US oil/gas construction and engineering companies, always with American executive management, with the impression you give on here ...... you won't last out the first year! :roll:

The Americans will take you at your word as to how smart you think you are, they are fairly tolerant of bull shitters and will give them enough rope to hang themselves. If they turnout to be as smart as they think they are they last until the second mistake .... they always allow one mistake. So take my advise and stay where you are! :wink:
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Postby Paphitis » Thu May 03, 2018 1:24 pm

Yes will thank you very much but I have already passed my psychometric, medicals, interview with a panel and on top of that I have passed a Multi-Crew Sim Check.

They know my history and they know how I fly and they also know my management Style in a Multi-Crew environment, and it takes 3 months to Check to Line to learn their Standard Operating Procedures. The American Air Transport Pilot Licence is a piece of cake compared to the Australian ATPL.

Not only that but they like Australian pilots because of the Australian Regulatory environment being one of the most stringent in the world.

I don't see much difference between Australians and Americans actually. There is only one very subtle difference. That is, they appear to be a bit nicer than normal but it depends where.

Anglo Saxons are some of the hardest people to work for. They are too quiet. Americans however, a bit louder, and they are not afraid to say what they think.
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