I apologise to other members for this post but ignoring it was not really an option given the content ....... it needed a response ........
LR:
I thought I'd addressed your idea that I am brainwashed. TBH, It seems the case that anybody who disagrees with your POV is "brainwashed". Although, you clearly think for yourself. As can be demonstrated by the occasions when you have actually disagreed with Russia on certain aspects of their activities.
Let ME remind you! Do you remember the quote of yours ’.....
you couldn’t run a military if every Tom, Dick and Harry applied their own views.’ ? So explain how you do that ..... if you can’t think of a way try getting hold of some fanatical Muslim terrorist ..... because that is the way they do it too. You know .... Madrasa’s, the Prayers and readings of the book .... collectively known as brainwashing. Yours is the same MO only the cause changes!
On what basis did you come to that conclusion? Not that I give a shit.
Look at the posts on here, the only ones that unequivocally sing the praises of the US and its coalition and boast about ‘superiority’, is you and Paphitis!
I agree, but don't see what that has to do with the Skrypal affair. I've highlighted Russia's record of lying on such issues and nothing you've said has countered any of that. You simply ignore embarrassing facts.
It’s called trust! Blair and Bush lied .... the people now know that, although considered a ‘
conspiracy theory’ when Corbyn and others resisted the 2nd Gulf War because the ‘
evidence’ was clearly questionable ..... you know such as the claim about hitting the UK with missiles in 20 minutes, the case for war was unbelievably weak.
I am afraid you bend the truth .... Russia has said in most cases
NOT GUILTY. Crimea was slightly different ! So what takes precedence, the UN Charter , i.e. the peoples democratic right to self determination or the constitutional Law of a fascist government that came to power in a foreign instigated coup (
Regime change?) The people decided .... not Russia. But we’ve been down that route before.
What makes you think I see Russia as the USSR? That came to an end nearly 30 years ago.
Because you make such silly accusations every time the West points the finger, obviously without considering all the evidence .... or lack of, or using logic and common sense. I tried to explain Crimea but you chose to ignore all the illegal actions by the US that led up to the Coup and in turn gave justification for the Russian response in Crimes ..... it fell on deaf ears.
You speak of evidence in a court of law but routinely post "independent" articles from fringe websites as though they were authoritative. Nevertheless, they are all actually just highly prejudiced left-wing opinions.
If you check, when it is an opinion piece I usually say so. I clearly stated that on the MoA post, which of course you just ridiculed as extreme left wing propaganda. Does it never occur to you that what they a writing about is the other side of the story to that you read, and most often with a loads of links to sources? I have a tendency to look at both sides and work out what is credible.
Don't you see. Talking about my paranoia kicking in and my irrational ranting IS personal???? That's why your idea of possibly undertaking libel action would be a bit of a problem. I've accumulated a cross-forum file of such exchanges going back a couple of years - so far. As I was professionally advised.
WOW is that a veiled threat .... do grow up! So I
AM on your hit list? Do you post your Lawyer all my posts? Maybe he would like to join the forum? I don’t keep records like you I am not as paranoid .... the filing cabinet must be full up by now?
I can't speak for other people. However, I don't believe that I have ever said that anybody is mentally retarded and I think the reference to being stoned on Zivania was actually from somebody who shared your views. Nothing to do with me, either way.
Calling someone a conspiracy theorist is derogatory and is an insinuation that the victim is a few pennies short of shilling. H’well referred to others as naive for not believing the official story and suggested the member put down the Zivania bottle, and he is the other ex-military know all! Read his posts. You make some pretty scathing remarks some times, so ‘
white-as-snow’ ... you ain’t!
Do you not think that the expression "other ex-military know all" is actually personal abuse? You do seem to be blind to the other side of the coin
If the name fits and both you and he
DO frequently appear to think you are experts on anything military and us ‘
civvies’ are just useful idiots to be tolerated or belittled. Again read his posts .... and yours
It's odd, how you have such a fanatical view about anybody who's been in their respective armed forces as being "brainwashed". I thought I'd covered that one.
You
THINK you covered it but missed the point that it was you that proposed the idea that all had to obviously sing from the same hymn sheet or the military could not function. Again, explain how else you get a bunch of individuals to act in the same fashion against their better instincts, without brain washing them?
Forgive me for again quoting you but - I couldn't give a flying fuck about the statistics, or activity on some other forum
Nor could I, I just thought it interesting after Paphitis expressed his admiration and thought the other site was far superior to this Forum. It shows he was not correct .... going on statistics.
The arsonist insists on being privy to the evidence, meeting people who were affected by the fire and being closely involved in the investigation. It all sounds reasonable - to the useful idiots. However, Mr Putin's efforts to blitz the airwaves with "plausible deniability" have been sussed. Too many times. He has totally screwed up and Russia, particularly the sort of people we see swanning around here in £400m yachts, are paying the price.
In ANY legal procedure, in any Court the accused has the right to see the evidence against them. The UK has acted as Accuser, Jury, Judge and is building up to be the executioner to! The UK just bypassed that procedure completely and illegally.
From what I have seen so far all Russia has said is ‘
We didn’t do it!’ Seems fair enough to me. Then the UK wants them to prove it ......... prove their innocence? ....... that is an impossible task and the Law turned on its head.
It has been the UK Government that has blitzed the air airwaves with a continuously changing scenario as every accusation they make seems to backfire as they get more and more improbable. That happens when you tell lies ... tell one and you need to tell more as truth demolishes the illusions they create. The UK has come up with no evidence! They told all the other NATO countries and the EU that they had the evidence but, Lithuania, Germany and Italy (
maybe others) have said the UK government needs to supply the evidence. I don’t know how you perceive that but to me it says they did a ‘
John Kerry MH17’ on them? Do you remember that ..... yours was one of the early posts when it happened and you regarded Kerry’s statement as “....
pretty conclusive,” at the time .... just a few hours after it came down. Who needs evidence!
You realise of course, others make a good living out of what you're doing for free?
I do it for the satisfaction of seeing replies/responses that shows there are many others that feel the same as I do about what is going on in the World. But, like others, I know there is little I can do about it.
Are you still of the view that it was food poisoning?
I think it more plausible than most of the UK theories so far! BTW: So did Marc Sloboda on RT ‘
Crosstalk’ this morning he even mention he read it on MoA web site ..... you should watch the programme.
Do you agree with the Russian Ambassador to the UK that President Putin never said traitors would kick the bucket and that Novochok is a US myth?
As I said, I don’t speak Russian but Putin released him in 2010 having bleached him dry of useful info. The UK gave him the same bleaching and then gave him a house and a pension. So common sense says whatever Putin said or didn’t say, actions speak louder than words. To then suggest that Putin decided to target him in such a clumsy and inept way is for ‘
useful idiots’ like Boris Jonson to spout.
Novichoc is a myth! The Soviet program was called ‘
Folient’. The Russian defector that wrote the book called it Novichoc and that was the name the US used for it ....... and it was also mentioned on a UK TV Spy Series ....... maybe that’s where May and co. got the name from.
You see - you never actually face up to these things. You just ignore them, I imagine hoping they will go away.
Not true, I will always explain my views as I have here but I am sure most members find it rather boring, it is just that you reject The Messenger, the Message, the Source and the myriad of well read journalists, ex-Ambassadors, Politicians even ex-military, that do not agree with your point of view. How many times I have gone to lengths to explain my thinking, only for you to ridicule me with sarcastic comments ?
There has been an absolute blitz of propaganda from the Moscow machine on this issue. I read today that they have floated a total of 29 conspiracy theories about the Skrypal incident. Pick your favourite. Nothing though alters the fact that this is the biggest diplomatic Russian screw-up for decades.
I think, looking at what has gone on in the last 4 weeks, it has been far more indicative of a British cock-up! They accused before they had
ANY evidence as scientist have pointed out. It was two days for the UK to make their announcement for something the OPCW said would take them at least three weeks.
I will ask again. What do you want? To just blind broadcast articles from fanatically prejudiced fringe sites like informationclearinghouse to the forum masses? Or, to have an exchange of views with people that have a different perspective? You don't seem to know.
It is you that thinks these sites are left wing ‘fanatics’. They just give the other side of the story that the MSM outlets would never touch as they do not meet the editorially approved narrative of the Western ‘
free’ press. Why do you think that there is so much insistence that the Internet should be controlled ? It is because these sites, you hate so much, are providing information and the people are beginning to think for themselves. Check the MoA link you provided, his view ratings are rising very fast ........ he even makes note of that and thanks everyone for the comments.