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[Robin Hood]

RH

I did drum up a lengthy response to your previous attacks on me (they never of course constitute personal abuse). However, I've twice tried to draw a line under this, to no avail. As I said, you are never one to not have the last word, which is part of your problem.

It isn't the first time you've plastered people's private communications over public forums. A nasty habit. To do so with the mail of a forum owner in an acrimonious way on another is, IMHO, a bloody disgrace. I suspect that it will probably be so in his also (I know that he's a lurker in here).

Despite all of your bluster and - "fake news" I draw attention to one particularly telling line, which sums things up succinctly:

"I think we can both agree that this is not the first time I have had to get involved in disputes that you have been at the centre of." I've yet to be the recipient of such a communication from that source.

You are not, and never have been, the put-upon, victimised innocent that you seem to have convinced yourself of.

Can we call this a day now? Or do you want the full Monty version? Because I don't

WHO is it that want's the last word? I think you will find I am just putting the record straight after you decide, once again to expound your distorted personal opinions. I really couldn't give a flying f**k about you or your opinion. You have already been exposed on here for what you are ..... without any prompting from me. Go and hold Court elsewhere I am not interested in your opinions and I don't think anyone else is either.

[Robin Hood]

It isn't the first time you've plastered people's private communications over public forums. A nasty habit. To do so with the mail of a forum owner in an acrimonious way on another is, IMHO, a bloody disgrace. I suspect that it will probably be so in his also (I know that he's a lurker in here).

He should come out and say hello.

Can we call this a day now? Or do you want the full Monty version? Because I don't

I would love the full Monty version, but maybe on another day.

Unlike your idol I don't keep files on other members .... it must be his military training. I am sorry to disappoint you Paphitis but with me I just call a spade-a-spade, what you see is all you get. I am surprised with all the admiration you have for Cyprus Eastern Forum .... you still bother to post on here! Your unbounded adoration of the site must make you want to turn your back on this site because after all I don't think ANYONE here supports your views .... on anything! They will be far more welcoming of someone with your main stream views?

[Londonrake]

RH

I did drum up a lengthy response to your previous attacks on me (they never of course constitute personal abuse). However, I've twice tried to draw a line under this, to no avail. As I said, you are never one to not have the last word, which is part of your problem.

It isn't the first time you've plastered people's private communications over public forums. A nasty habit. To do so with the mail of a forum owner in an acrimonious way on another is, IMHO, a bloody disgrace. I suspect that it will probably be so in his also (I know that he's a lurker in here).

Despite all of your bluster and - "fake news" I draw attention to one particularly telling line, which sums things up succinctly:

"I think we can both agree that this is not the first time I have had to get involved in disputes that you have been at the centre of." I've yet to be the recipient of such a communication from that source.

You are not, and never have been, the put-upon, victimised innocent that you seem to have convinced yourself of.

Can we call this a day now? Or do you want the full Monty version? Because I don't

WHO is it that want's the last word? I think you will find I am just putting the record straight after you decide, once again to expound your distorted personal opinions. I really couldn't give a flying f**k about you or your opinion. You have already been exposed on here for what you are ..... without any prompting from me. Go and hold Court elsewhere I am not interested in your opinions and I don't think anyone else is either.

And ultimately, that’s what it comes down to. I’ve never put up with your twisted views, or been bludgeoned into silence on them, like so many others. I’ve always highlighted the holes in your logic and your BBC/RT type hypocrisy. Here, arguing that one of the most famous tyrants on Earth, whose barbaric exploits are legion, is in some way a misunderstood victim, to be sympathised with and supported. So, you loose the plot.

[Robin Hood]

RH

I did drum up a lengthy response to your previous attacks on me (they never of course constitute personal abuse). However, I've twice tried to draw a line under this, to no avail. As I said, you are never one to not have the last word, which is part of your problem.

It isn't the first time you've plastered people's private communications over public forums. A nasty habit. To do so with the mail of a forum owner in an acrimonious way on another is, IMHO, a bloody disgrace. I suspect that it will probably be so in his also (I know that he's a lurker in here).

Despite all of your bluster and - "fake news" I draw attention to one particularly telling line, which sums things up succinctly:

"I think we can both agree that this is not the first time I have had to get involved in disputes that you have been at the centre of." I've yet to be the recipient of such a communication from that source.

You are not, and never have been, the put-upon, victimised innocent that you seem to have convinced yourself of.

Can we call this a day now? Or do you want the full Monty version? Because I don't

WHO is it that want's the last word? I think you will find I am just putting the record straight after you decide, once again to expound your distorted personal opinions. I really couldn't give a flying f**k about you or your opinion. You have already been exposed on here for what you are ..... without any prompting from me. Go and hold Court elsewhere I am not interested in your opinions and I don't think anyone else is either.

And ultimately, that’s what it comes down to. I’ve never put up with your twisted views, or been bludgeoned into silence on them, like so many others. I’ve always highlighted the holes in your logic and your BBC/RT type hypocrisy. Here, arguing that one of the most famous tyrants on Earth, whose barbaric exploits are legion, is in some way a misunderstood victim, to be sympathised with and supported. So, you loose the plot.

Where do you get your propaganda from? Perfect they ain't but put the US or the UK under the same sort of investigation and there are many things in our western society that don't come up to scratch. In their position and given the last 70 years of Korean history, I think I would want a nuclear deterrent too! But I note that you never have any adverse comments when Israel does the same thing and uses the same reasoning? Just like you see the Crimea's exercising their right to self determination as a breach of International Law but ignore the Israeli's doing the same thing through acts of war in Palestine and the Golan Heights. So I feel my views are not twisted but very much more balanced because I try to understand both sides of the situation ...... I am not brain washed by the MSM to believe things that do not seem credible.

Just look at your 'twisted' views on Iran? You always sarcastically refer to Iran as the '....wonderful, peace loving Islamic Republic' ..... and if you were to actually take the trouble you would find out that they are just that and far from being a threat to their neighbours, they have attacked no other nation for over 300 years. So what makes you think they are such a threat ? Simple, it is anti-Iranian propaganda you have picked up from your chosen sources. And whilst you seem to regard looking at RT AND BBC and then comparing the presentation of the same news stories, as being hypocritical ........ I see it as trying to balance both sides of the argument.

So I disagree with you that I have 'lost the plot'..... my views are less restricted by deliberate indoctrination than yours as you never had a plausible plot in the first place. Your opinions are all predetermined .... mine are not as I take it like I find it with no preconceived ideas.

[Pyrpolizer]

Them Hoodwinked started to weigh in on how good Fatboy Rocketman is giving it to the Yanks and the nasty criminal South Koreans and everyone thought he was an idiot, even the one's who also thought Trump was an idiot himself.

I agree with RH... the South Koreans are a rotten criminal bunch who have lost all traces of their identity, while the North is/are pure and unspoiled.

You need to go to bed!

South Korea is an Asian powerhouse, an open economy and global economic power. And they are not testing Nuclear Weapons either.

They are a puppet State of the US and if you read the History you will see that after WWII the US imposed their man in the Presidency (Singman Re (?)) who lived in the US, installed a puppet government formed greatly of Japanese collaborators and they started to destroy the towns and villages that were happy to be self governing communities. Looked too much like communism for the US and they gave their puppet the nod to exterminate them. They murdered tens of thousands of south Koreans, which was what started the Korean War.

Kims Grandfather, who was worshipped by the Koreans, took on Singman Re's army and when he looked like winning with the backing of the ordinary rural Koreans, just like the Vietnamese did, the US moved in and spent 2-3 years reducing North Korea to rubble and killed off a third of the population. This is what made the Americans cocky enough to believe they could do the same with Vietnam. They found out differently and a mighty US Army was destroyed by a bunch of peasants.

So to many thinking people it makes sense for Nth Korea to want a deterent ..... and so far it has worked. Kim learned very quickly what happened with Ghadaffi and Sadam, once they gave up their deterents .... he would not be caught with HIS pants down.

So yes, I was in the minority, the rest who looked like agreeing with me, were soon driven off the thread with no stomach for a fight. I bothered enough to find out the truth about why Kim wanted a nuclear deterent ..... and I could see why.

This is the first time I ever head of a logical explanation.
Thank you for that!
I will have to do my own research though.

[Pyrpolizer]

@RH
You know I respect you for your extremely informative posts.
You posted material regarding your suspension from the other forum.
I 've read it all and I have to be honest with you: Steve was right to suspend you.
Question:What was the exact period of your suspension
Suggestion: You have to control your temper. You might be calm and nice normally. Fine! But the world is full of people that might drive us out of the normal. That's when you need to control yourself.

@LR
I have nothing against you man, but you did mention somewhere this forum is cliquish, childish etc.
So what are you doing here??
I haven't seen anything interesting from you.
You posted 706 posts so far, it looks to me 700 of those are about RH's personality and past history in the other forum.
Maybe you should think that people in this forum have the ability to judge RH based on what he contributes HERE instead?

@RH, LR and Paphitis.
I personally got sick and tired hearing the same story over and over again.

[Robin Hood]

Pyrpolizer:

This is the first time I ever head of a logical explanation.
Thank you for that!
I will have to do my own research though.

This may be of interest as it looks at the background to both the US/UN official line on Korea and the reality on the ground. It is rather a long read and goes into a lot of detail, but much of this was squashed out of the public domain for many years because it does not follow the story the West would like the World to believe.

It does not appear to be a propagandist one sided view but more an academic piece with many references to other sources. I have to have admit I only found it this evening so I have only read through less than 50% but even being aware of the background I am still finding things out that I never knew of.

The Korean War: Barbarism Unleashed

http://peacehistory-usfp.org/korean-war/

[Robin Hood]

Pyrpolizer:

You posted material regarding your suspension from the other forum.
I 've read it all and I have to be honest with you: Steve was right to suspend you

I agree, I broke the rules and was punished accordingly .... the question is .... did I jump or was I pushed? I think you are smart enough to work out which?

Question: What was the exact period of your suspension

- Not stated.

Suggestion: You have to control your temper. You might be calm and nice normally. Fine! But the world is full of people that might drive us out of the normal. That's when you need to control yourself.

I never lose my temper but I am resilient and don’t like being pushed around. I will always willingly explain my views if I am asked to and do so in many cases I do so in my posts. This makes some posts rather long but never do I rely on just one source and neither do I reply to any thread without finding out something about the subject first. If anyone wants to challenge my views I will always give a reason why I believe what I do and I expect the same respect in return.

When certain people get involved and either ignore questions to explain their opinion/view (as Paphitis always does) or they turn to sarcasm and ridicule rather than explain their opposing view, or turn to personal attacks, as you point out below, I retaliate on a keyboard. As I said ..... I never lose my temper and I never (or very rarely) act without thinking it through first. I accept I am a tough opponent but does that not make a debate that much more interesting than someone who just passes opinions without explanation?

When I was on the other Forum as ProVox, Steve the owner asked me why I had such strong views about Iran, Ukraine and the Palestinian/Israeli conflict but never made any observations about events in Syria. My answer was very simple “Because I know nothing about events in Syria!”. I then found out as much as I could from various sources and, just like the Skripal incident, the official narrative and information from other sources were in conflict. It took a long time and a lot of delving to come to the point where I began to see a far more realistic view of events. That must have been in the early days of the Syrian conflict, 2010/2011 and some time before Russia got involved and even then the MSM line lacked credibility.

BTW: My job for the last 20 or so years was, as the senior instrument engineer, to analyse the way a plant worked and why it didn't! I did the same with plant safety and shut down systems and, had I just listened to plant operators rather than ploughing through all the data, I would never have solved anything. This took sometimes a few minutes, other more complex problems could take several days. So looking at detail and formulating an opinion is part of what I am, it makes me look at the fine detail as opposed to just skimming through the headlines!

Thank you for your responses over the time I have been posting. I have always found your views rational, although I may not always agree with them, but generally I don’t think we are that far apart on most things. Have a nice evening.

[Get Real!]

1) North Korea is developing Nuclear Weapons,
2) North Korea has tested Nuclear Weapons,
3) North Korea has been testing delivery systems through South Korean and Japanese Airspace,
4) North Korean artillery had bombarded residential areas in cross border villages about 2 years ago,
5) North Koreans are not allowed to leave North Korea,
6) North Korea has threatened Nuclear Annihilation of many of its neighbors including Japan and GUAM,
7) North Korea has threatened Hawaii, and Australia with a Nuclear Attack, and
8.) and there is many more things I just haven't thought of just yet.

None of the above you post have *ANYTHING* to do with my highlighting of N.Korea's beautiful racial and cultural purity.

[Paphitis]

Them Hoodwinked started to weigh in on how good Fatboy Rocketman is giving it to the Yanks and the nasty criminal South Koreans and everyone thought he was an idiot, even the one's who also thought Trump was an idiot himself.

I agree with RH... the South Koreans are a rotten criminal bunch who have lost all traces of their identity, while the North is/are pure and unspoiled.

You need to go to bed!

South Korea is an Asian powerhouse, an open economy and global economic power. And they are not testing Nuclear Weapons either.

They are a puppet State of the US and if you read the History you will see that after WWII the US imposed their man in the Presidency (Singman Re (?)) who lived in the US, installed a puppet government formed greatly of Japanese collaborators and they started to destroy the towns and villages that were happy to be self governing communities. Looked too much like communism for the US and they gave their puppet the nod to exterminate them. They murdered tens of thousands of south Koreans, which was what started the Korean War.

Kims Grandfather, who was worshipped by the Koreans, took on Singman Re's army and when he looked like winning with the backing of the ordinary rural Koreans, just like the Vietnamese did, the US moved in and spent 2-3 years reducing North Korea to rubble and killed off a third of the population. This is what made the Americans cocky enough to believe they could do the same with Vietnam. They found out differently and a mighty US Army was destroyed by a bunch of peasants.

So to many thinking people it makes sense for Nth Korea to want a deterent ..... and so far it has worked. Kim learned very quickly what happened with Ghadaffi and Sadam, once they gave up their deterents .... he would not be caught with HIS pants down.

So yes, I was in the minority, the rest who looked like agreeing with me, were soon driven off the thread with no stomach for a fight. I bothered enough to find out the truth about why Kim wanted a nuclear deterent ..... and I could see why.

This is the first time I ever head of a logical explanation.
Thank you for that!
I will have to do my own research though.

The real litmus test is this!

Go to North Korea (you can go there albeit it can be dangerous) and then go to South Korea (a completely safe country to visit). If someone said you had only a choice to live in either North or South Korea, then inevitably, you would choose South Korea all the time.

Yes the South Koreans are a US ally. Also, they are an ally to Japan and so many other countries. It is a FREE country in every respect.

In North Korea, citizens are not even allowed to leave and if you are caught watching American Films, you could potentially be executed by AA Guns or fed to Hungry Dogs as a traitor.

Here is a documentary for you.