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“We Don’t Even Know if a Novichok Program Existed!” - By John Pilger

“Skripal case is a carefully-constructed drama”

A video .......

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49012.htm

Sorry Pilger, you areshole, we do. The Creators have admitted it - it killed one of them.....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/22/andrei-zheleznyakov-soviet-scientist-poisoned-novichok

Informationclearinghouse seems to be mostly an apologist for Russia....

[Robin Hood]

Novichok appears to be a group of nerve agents not a specific product. But look at the dates when all this happened. It is Soviet era and it was the US and the UK that dismantled the Uzbekistan plant where these Soviet era nerve agents were tested in the 1980’s and 90’s. The Dr quoted in the article published all the data in the 90’s and this stuff can be made anywhere and by anybody. So to leap to a conclusion that Russia was responsible, in my book is a bit premature.

The science behind Novichok - By Professor George Braitberg AM, University of Melbourne

The British Government has accused Russia of stockpiling the Soviet-designed nerve agent Novichok to use in assassinations. An expert tells us how and why it’s so deadly

https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/the-science-behind-novichok

Boris Johnson A Categorical Liar - By Craig Murray

Evidence submitted by the British government in court today proves, beyond any doubt, that Boris Johnson has been point blank lying about the degree of certainty Porton Down scientists have about the Skripals being poisoned with a Russian “novichok” agent.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49067.htm

STUD:

Informationclearinghouse seems to be mostly an apologist for Russia....

It is run by one man, Tom Feely and is, as the name suggests, a clearing house (server), that provides an outlet for alternative views of the news and it is these sites that are being identified as under severe attack from DoS bots,trying to crash these sites. Because, there are those that do not want you or I, to make up our own minds. Have you ever wondered why?

Does that mean the MSM is just an apologist for western powers? Both cover the same stories from different angles. To say the site is an apologist for Russia is a bit short sighted ........ the news release today has very little about Russia except it published the full text of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs presentation to Ambassadors in Moscow giving the Russian side of the Skripal story. I don’t think that is apologist ...... because if sites like this didn’t publish these articles you would never get these details.

I say wait for the evidence before making accusation ......... the principal of law in the UK which they are proud of is 'Innocent until proven guilty!'. Why does it not apply to this incident as there are an awful lot of unknown's ? I am afraid I see much of this as an extension of the US's phobia about Russia which so far has uncovered nothing!

[Get Real!]

Where’s Paphitis?

“Declassified CIA Documents Show Agency’s Control Over Mainstream Media & Academia”

http://www.collective-evolution.com/201 ... -academia/

[Robin Hood]

I think these are the questions i would ask too and they certainly deserve answers from those making the accusations.

30 QUESTIONS THAT JOURNALISTS SHOULD BE ASKING ABOUT THE SKRIPAL CASE - Published: March 26, 2018

Authored by Rob Slane via TheBlogMire.com,

There are a lot of issues surrounding the case of Sergei and Yulia Skripal which, at the time of writing, are very unclear and rather odd. There may well be good and innocent explanations for some or even all of them. Then again there may not. This is why it is crucial for questions to be asked where, as yet, there are either no answers or deeply unsatisfactory ones.
For the questions read .......

https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/64749/30-questions-that-journalists-should-be-asking-about-the-skripal.html

[Robin Hood]

Where’s Paphitis?

“Declassified CIA Documents Show Agency’s Control Over Mainstream Media & Academia”

http://www.collective-evolution.com/201 ... -academia/

Paphitis would discount this as it was not from a site he recognised as reliable. The information as far as he is concerned is irrelevant if the source is not to his liking. That's why 95% on the population accept that it is only a conspiracy theory .... as that is what they have been told to think!

[Londonrake]

Where’s Paphitis?

“Declassified CIA Documents Show Agency’s Control Over Mainstream Media & Academia”

http://www.collective-evolution.com/201 ... -academia/

Thank you for posting this.

I always suspected that:

There actually are UFOs and from them we have the means to travel to the stars or "Take ET home" as they say in the article but that this is being kept from humanity by them.

Photovoltaic generators can actually be 80%+ efficient but this capability is being suppressed by them.

Geoengineering is a secret WMD and that there's a conspiracy going on, which includes spraying the atmosphere with toxic particles in order to block out sunlight. Are these the chemtrails we've all been seeing for years?

That Trump, Putin et al are all just diversions. The whole world is actually controlled by an elite group of people, headed by the Jewish bankers. We're all just so many sheep.

I was really intrigued to read about the fight back though. How we are finally realising what's going on and the part cosmic rays have played in this. I'm saving the linked article on " Do Some of The World’s Elite Use Black Magic Rituals For More Power & Control?" for bedtime reading.

Yes, I can't see how Paphitis could possibly have any valid objections to the credibility of this site.

[Robin Hood]

Where’s Paphitis?

“Declassified CIA Documents Show Agency’s Control Over Mainstream Media & Academia”

http://www.collective-evolution.com/201 ... -academia/

Thank you for posting this.

I always suspected that:

There actually are UFOs and from them we have the means to travel to the stars or "Take ET home" as they say in the article but that this is being kept from humanity by them.

Photovoltaic generators can actually be 80%+ efficient but this capability is being suppressed by them.

Geoengineering is a secret WMD and that there's a conspiracy going on, which includes spraying the atmosphere with toxic particles in order to block out sunlight. Are these the chemtrails we've all been seeing for years?

That Trump, Putin et al are all just diversions. The whole world is actually controlled by an elite group of people, headed by the Jewish bankers. We're all just so many sheep.

I was really intrigued to read about the fight back though. How we are finally realising what's going on and the part cosmic rays have played in this. I'm saving the linked article on " Do Some of The World’s Elite Use Black Magic Rituals For More Power & Control?" for bedtime reading.

Yes, I can't see how Paphitis could possibly have any valid objections to the credibility of this site.

Sarcasm was always your forte! If you think the bankers and he multinationals, don't rule the world .... carry on believing but you would be wise to check it out first!

[Londonrake]

Sarcasm was always your forte!

Thank you. I'm not sure what more suitable response there could be to GR's presenting such a site as being worthy of serious consideration though.

If you think the bankers and he multinationals, don't rule the world .... carry on believing but you would be wise to check it out first!

Do I have to? I've had access to the claim and its substance for a long time. Moreover, what can an ageing, retired, non-entity like myself do about it? Worry? Ruminate? Man the barricades?

[Paphitis]

Where’s Paphitis?

“Declassified CIA Documents Show Agency’s Control Over Mainstream Media & Academia”

http://www.collective-evolution.com/201 ... -academia/

Well mate, it looks like you are all FUCKED!

If the CIA is that good (and they are good), then Pootin better just give up. His days of impunity are OVER!

Now I'm not so sure about Aliens and ET, but UFOs are a possibility. Nothing more like the F117, B1 and B2. Arthur and Martha see these things flying around in the desert testing something like chaff-flares or firing some cruise missiles, and viola, UFO central baby. Of course I could be wrong too.

But yes, there are secret technologies. The West DOES NOT reveal everything or make claims like their planes and missiles are unbeatable like Pootin does. But there are secret prototypes flying in places like Arizona and Woomera. There are also secret airfields in the middle of the desert which do not appear on a map with 4000m runways. And all are UFO hotspots.

Lot's of Russians working at Woomera as well, testing all kinds of ballistics. Probably also testing many other illegal and secretive things.

One of Australia's top spies (now deceased) was a Russian Pontian (KGB trained), married to a Greek Girl. Son was an Australian Naval Officer too (and a friend of mine). He spoke Greek fluently, and also Ancient Greek. He was spying on all the Greek Community but in particular all Cypriots and was responsible for vetting them into Australia. He was one of the most vicious anti Russians on the planet. He had dossiers on virtually every prominent Cypriot and Russian in Australia. The Australian Government knew everyone's affiliations and associations in Cyprus and they were especially interested in AKEL members back in the day. I know, it sounds silly but back in the day, AKEL members and supporters were not welcome in Australia.

Of course the truth is only between the 2 extreme claims. Yes, Intelligence Agencies have some control in EVERY country but in particular in Echelon 5 eye nations and totalitarian countries like Pootin's Russia. Not sure about controlling the media though. In Western Countries we have a completely free media and press. Maybe not the case in Russia though. They do not the kind of control that attacks other countries with Chemical Warfare (except in Russia's case), even though they do have that capability themselves and they can also assassinate people they don't like. The West just wouldn't use Chemical Agents when they can eliminate people with other undetectable means which make it look like a natural death or cardiac arrest. Way's which are probably very stealthy too.

But yeh, there are so many secret things which are suppressed from the media. Hence why we have The State Secret's Act in Australia.

Even entire maps are changed. Underground car-parks at avoid Satellites, secret missile programs, satellite espionage, cyberwarfare, and probably a lot more than that.

And the West is way ahead of the game I'm afraid. Allied Western nations also collaborate with each other. For instance the 5 eyes or Echelon Network between USA, UK, Australia, Canada, and NZ. And Echelon and 5 eyes, collaborate with ALL of NATO and some Asian countries too. They share intelligence. What they have is a network no one can escape from.

Russia doesn't have this.

And yes, the 5 eyes now more about YOU and Russia than you will ever know about them.

Australia just evicted Russian Diplomats from Canberra as spies. Doesn't go far enough, but its a start. Expect more countries like Canada and New Zealand to do the same. Also, I fear that Western Countries are ging to boycott The World Cup. I just took out insurance because I bought a World Cup package.

BTW, CIA is small fry. People keep talking about CIA and ASIO/ASIC and no nothing about NSA and Defence Signals in Australia.

The focus is on the kindergarten rather than the real deal. Just like they like it too.

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A view expressing opinions as valid as many others....

https://theswamp.media/the-link-between-sergei-skripal-and-the-trump-russia-dossier-christopher-steele-returns