Cyprus-Forum.com

[miltiades]

General, as yet there is no evidence that Russia was behind the attack on the two Russians, notice, attack on two Russians not as you stupidly infer attack on the UK.
To my knowledge no attack took place in any other part of the UK.Just on the two Russians and I suspect we are once again witnessing ....weapons of mass destruction by Sadad scenario.
Keep taking the shit that you always seem so keen to digest.

[Paphitis]

Vlaka!, if it was not Russia then who was it in your feeble mind?

Was it North Korea, China or Iran. Someone had to do it. Do you think the North Koreans wanted to get rid of Skipral, a former Russian Agent? Or was it the Chinese or Eskimos.

Come on Einstein. let's hear those 2 cells between your 2 ears try and work it out!

And what evidence do you want?

[Robin Hood]

Don't worry about the fatalities. I hyena has as much compassion in their reproductive organs.

But it isn't about that. It is about YOUR lack of comprehension as to the seriousness as this grotesque violation of International law on Britain.

It is you that lacks comprehension! There has been no violation of International Law as there is no proof! No proof ...... then there is NO case to answer in any Court of Law Civil/Maritime/Criminal/International ..... it is as simple as that. There has been no attack by another State on the UK or, as it seems to be turning out, from anyone one else ...... as the UK's story is breaking apart disclosing that this may not even be an attack at all. As you keep telling us, this Novichok is so toxic it can kill in minutes, and there is no survival from it ...... so it cannot possibly be a nerve agent, can it, as people are recovering and as Milti keeps pointing out to you, so far no one has died. My bet is, It will likely turn out to be toxic poisoning from contaminated fish !

So it is YOU that are in contravention of the Law by making accusations and taking punitive action without a shred of evidence to support YOUR actions. On the other hand, every day as regular as clockwork, British aircraft take off from Akrotiri to bomb a Sovereign State (Syria) which is no threat to the UK, any NATO country or Europe and without a UN mandate! Now that IS a violation of International Law!

You pretended to be a great British compatriot during the EU vote and yet now you prove to be a great traitor to your adopted nation. Do you have no shame?

There is nothing wrong in not supporting the illegal actions of your Government, nor is it traitorous. It is people like you that are traitors for blindly supporting acts of International terrorism by your country against other Sovereign States. Especially doing so from Australia, that has absolutely no reason to even be in the Northern Hemisphere let alone attacking countries that pose no threat to Australia.

All you know is how to run and avoid responsibility.

You avoid anything you are required to answer and run away hiding behind obscenities and libellous accusations against other forum members.

[Paphitis]

General, as yet there is no evidence that Russia was behind the attack on the two Russians, notice, attack on two Russians not as you stupidly infer attack on the UK.
To my knowledge no attack took place in any other part of the UK.Just on the two Russians and I suspect we are once again witnessing ....weapons of mass destruction by Sadad scenario.
Keep taking the shit that you always seem so keen to digest.

There are 1500 violations of Greek Airspace each year. What evidence wild you like mne to provide that all of them were Turkish violations. Did the Hellenic Air Force intercept every single one? Did they identify every single violation?

And if not, what evidence is there that Turkey is responsible? It might have been the Russians that did it!

If Turkey assassinated some TCs, what evidence would we have that it is actually Turkey that assassinated them.

[Robin Hood]

Vlaka!, if it was not Russia then who was it in your feeble mind?

Was it North Korea, China or Iran. Someone had to do it. Do you think the north Koreans wanted to get rid of Skipral, a former Russian Agent? Or was it the Chinese or eskimos.

Come on Einstein. let's hear those 2 cells between your 2 ears try and work it out!

And what evidence do you want?

"What evidence do you want??" FFS are you for real? Evidence? .... you know that thing you need to prove beyond reasonable doubt (for criminal charges) and without which you have no case with which to pursue the charges. Hot air, boasting, wild accusations ...... are not evidence!

See previous post ..... it is now beginning to look as if maybe there was no crime ...... especially one that involved President Putin of the Russian Federation or the Russians. If anything it could be associated with these Russian oligarchs that the UK Government and banking system welcomes with open arms ...... or severe food poisoning.

[Pyrpolizer]

He is only posting propaganda from websites like The Saker and Information Clearing House and other conspiracy sites. Not many people take him seriously (except for Milti and maybe you) and his views are not leading.

It’s very easy to identify a propaganda site from another which is not. Basically a propaganda site either provides false evidence or no evidence at all. I have read almost all the links RH provided and I am sorry to say that the only propaganda I noticed was that coming from MM that form the leading views.
You also have to distinguish between conspiracy theories and alternative views. When I implied to you that it’s the UK who poisoned Skripal I did that on purpose because in the absence of any evidence that’s a conspiracy theory-albeit of the same magnitude as the other conspiracy theory (that the Russians did it) promoted by the UK Government.

Tim Drayton left because of this arsehole.

Any link? I think I was away when this happened.
I ‘ve known Tim a long time ago. I know he would object to this content and call us both "dedikodu". Google it, it’s Turkish..

He even got kicked out from his other forum and most people there think he is an idiot, including people that have met him face to face just don't want to see the idiot again because they say he is a toxic person.

In fact a few of them had warned me when he was trying to arrange a meet with me. They told me not to go anywhere near him. Some others actually feel sorry for him and his lonely existence but they blame his situation on him, because the Brit Community in Cyprus is pretty open, laid back and quite friendly to most people. But just like he has alienated them, he has alienated our very own and respected Tim Drayton. He was a member that I disagreed with many times, or rather he disagreed with me, but I considered him a forum friend and all round nice guy.

Tim would now say you are a Koca dedikodu.
By saying he was "kicked out" you actually mean RH was banned, right? You will be surprised to learn that most of the times it’s an honor to get banned from a certain forum.
Do you for example know that some of the most honorable members of this forum (both GCs and TCs) were banned from this forum as well? I bet you don’t even know the reasons…
Going against the mainstream view is a very good reason to get banned in a forum.
Ask GR how many times he was banned from the Atca forum LOL.
So nothing surprising here and nothing supporting the view that RH is the kind of bad person you think he is.

Well, I have figured and many times he has made some comments which go against Cypriot Interests and which are supportive of Turkey. He will deny it. But many times he has ridiculed Cyprus on its hydrocarbons, and its ability to get a solution.

I have seen those comments and I am sorry to say that I don’t agree with you. The latest one I think was about the ability of the National Guard. They are simply the views of someone who’s an outsider and as such can be excused of missing important details making his view partially wrong. Many Cypriots have similar views as well. Doesn’t mean they are supportive of Turkey.
This is what this forum is all about. Discussing and correcting each other when we are wrong.
In fact I did reply to RH and I am sure he understood my points.
Here’s my complete reply:
cyprus46082.html#p863573

A long time ago I also posted this.
cyprus45631-250.html#p862150
Who can accuse me of undermining RoC’s ability to protect her interests, when the only thing I predicted wrong was that Turkey would use an American company to steal the Hydrocarbons, instead of doing it herself?

[Paphitis]

It’s very easy to identify a propaganda site from another which is not. Basically a propaganda site either provides false evidence or no evidence at all. I have read almost all the links RH provided and I am sorry to say that the only propaganda I noticed was that coming from MM that form the leading views.
You also have to distinguish between conspiracy theories and alternative views. When I implied to you that it’s the UK who poisoned Skripal I did that on purpose because in the absence of any evidence that’s a conspiracy theory-albeit of the same magnitude as the other conspiracy theory (that the Russians did it) promoted by the UK Government.

C'mon Pyro, what evidence did these websites provide ever? All they provide is a bunch of conspiracy theories and anti west sentiment. Someone must be responsible for the poisoning of the Skiprals on British soil using Chemical weapons.

The state resonsible must have possession of these Chemical nerve Agents and have the motive and reason to do it and there is only one country with a motive and which has possession of these substances.

Tim Drayton left because of this arsehole.

Any link? I think I was away when this happened.
I ‘ve known Tim a long time ago. I know he would object to this content and call us both "dedikodu". Google it, it’s Turkish..

cyprus45676-60.html?hilit=Tim%20Drayton#p860000

I genuinely consider Tim Drayton as a friend no matter what disagreements I have with him because he is a nice guy.

Tim had a lot of run ins with the idiot, and encountered a great deal of vitriol until he had enough and decided to leave because he thought it was pointless.

Tim would now say you are a Koca dedikodu.
By saying he was "kicked out" you actually mean RH was banned, right? You will be surprised to learn that most of the times it’s an honor to get banned from a certain forum.
Do you for example know that some of the most honorable members of this forum (both GCs and TCs) were banned from this forum as well? I bet you don’t even know the reasons…
Going against the mainstream view is a very good reason to get banned in a forum.
Ask GR how many times he was banned from the Atca forum LOL.
So nothing surprising here and nothing supporting the view that RH is the kind of bad person you think he is.

RH got banned from a Brit expat forum. The members there are probably the sweetest kind of people you will find on a forum. pretty intelligent and extremely polite. It's very difficult to get banned from there. Not even I came close and they were very welcoming to me. Mostly older retirees they were that just don't want any trouble. Yet, hoodwinked doesn't have any friends there. he is not welcome there. I can provide you with many links depicting the idiots utter stupidity and the ghastly encounters he had with some pretty calm people.

Tim would not call me anything. In fact, I am pretty sure he considers me a friend also.

Well, I have figured and many times he has made some comments which go against Cypriot Interests and which are supportive of Turkey. He will deny it. But many times he has ridiculed Cyprus on its hydrocarbons, and its ability to get a solution.

I have seen those comments and I am sorry to say that I don’t agree with you. The latest one I think was about the ability of the National Guard. They are simply the views of someone who’s an outsider and as such can be excused of missing important details making his view partially wrong. Many Cypriots have similar views as well. Doesn’t mean they are supportive of Turkey.
This is what this forum is all about. Discussing and correcting each other when we are wrong.
In fact I did reply to RH and I am sure he understood my points.
Here’s my complete reply:
cyprus46082.html#p863573

Oh no Pyro that is where you are wrong. The guy was supportive of BREXIT because it was in Russia's interests. Cyprus isn't even a consideration to him compared to Russia's interest. he said many times that Cyprus should accept all of Turkey's demands. He has also blamed Cypriot recalcirance for the fact that a solution has never been found thus far.

You also mentioned UK in the above thread supporting turkish interests when that is NOT the case. Britain supports the RoC's UNCLOS rights as does the US.

A long time ago I also posted this.
cyprus45631-250.html#p862150
Who can accuse me of undermining RoC’s ability to protect her interests, when the only thing I predicted wrong was that Turkey would use an American company to steal the Hydrocarbons, instead of doing it herself?

And bullshit! No American company is ever going to have an agreement to drill in the Cypriot EEZ against EXXON and US interests., If they did that, they would be shut down by the US Government. That is who will stop them.

In addition to that, Cyprus has signed agreements with some of the largest companies from the USA, Israel, Italy, France and Britain.

You did however mention that Turkey will get cracked into place. well that is a distinct possibility. Do you think they will do to the Americans what they did to Italy?

[Pyrpolizer]

It’s very easy to identify a propaganda site from another which is not. Basically a propaganda site either provides false evidence or no evidence at all. I have read almost all the links RH provided and I am sorry to say that the only propaganda I noticed was that coming from MM that form the leading views.
You also have to distinguish between conspiracy theories and alternative views. When I implied to you that it’s the UK who poisoned Skripal I did that on purpose because in the absence of any evidence that’s a conspiracy theory-albeit of the same magnitude as the other conspiracy theory (that the Russians did it) promoted by the UK Government.

C'mon Pyro, what evidence did these websites provide ever? All they provide is a bunch of conspiracy theories. Someone must be responsible for the poisoning of the Skiprals on British soil using Chemical weapons.

The state resonsible must have possession of these Chemical nerve Agents and have the motive and reason to do it and there is only one country with a motive.

Tim Drayton left because of this arsehole.

Any link? I think I was away when this happened.
I ‘ve known Tim a long time ago. I know he would object to this content and call us both "dedikodu". Google it, it’s Turkish..

cyprus45676-60.html?hilit=Tim%20Drayton#p860000

I genuinely consider Tim Drayton as a friend no matter what disagreements I have with him because he is a nice guy.

Tim had a lot of run ins with the idiot, and encountered a great deal of vitriol until he had enough and decided to leave because he thought it was pointless.

Tim would now say you are a Koca dedikodu.
By saying he was "kicked out" you actually mean RH was banned, right? You will be surprised to learn that most of the times it’s an honor to get banned from a certain forum.
Do you for example know that some of the most honorable members of this forum (both GCs and TCs) were banned from this forum as well? I bet you don’t even know the reasons…
Going against the mainstream view is a very good reason to get banned in a forum.
Ask GR how many times he was banned from the Atca forum LOL.
So nothing surprising here and nothing supporting the view that RH is the kind of bad person you think he is.

RH got banned from a Brit expat forum. The members there are probably the sweetest kind of people you will find on a forum. pretty intelligent and extremely polite. It's very difficult to get banned from there. Not even I came close and they were very welcoming to me. Mostly older retirees they were that just don't want any trouble. Yet, hoodwinked doesn't have any friends there. he is not welcome there. I can provide you with many links depicting the idiots utter stupidity and the ghastly encounters he had with some pretty calm people.

Tim would not call me anything. In fact, I am pretty sure he considers me a friend also.

Well, I have figured and many times he has made some comments which go against Cypriot Interests and which are supportive of Turkey. He will deny it. But many times he has ridiculed Cyprus on its hydrocarbons, and its ability to get a solution.

I have seen those comments and I am sorry to say that I don’t agree with you. The latest one I think was about the ability of the National Guard. They are simply the views of someone who’s an outsider and as such can be excused of missing important details making his view partially wrong. Many Cypriots have similar views as well. Doesn’t mean they are supportive of Turkey.
This is what this forum is all about. Discussing and correcting each other when we are wrong.
In fact I did reply to RH and I am sure he understood my points.
Here’s my complete reply:
cyprus46082.html#p863573

Oh no Pyro that is where you are wrong. The guy was supportive of BREXIT because it was in Russia's interests.

For the moment I will only reply selectively as I don't have much time.
I participated in that discussion and I know the reasons he supported Brexit.
a)because iho the EU will eventually collapse
b)because he think the UK will be better off in the long run.
You claim he supported it because it was in Russia's interests- he never made such claim and it's just your own suspicion.
Don't let your sentiments drive you to wrong conclusions.

Cyprus isn't even a consideration to him compared to Russia's interest. he said many times that Cyprus should accept all of Turkey's demands. He has also blamed Cypriot recalcirance for the fact that a solution has never been found thus far.

You also mentioned UK in the above thread supporting turkish interests when that is NOT the case. Britain supports the RoC's UNCLOS rights as does the US.

A long time ago I also posted this.
cyprus45631-250.html#p862150
Who can accuse me of undermining RoC’s ability to protect her interests, when the only thing I predicted wrong was that Turkey would use an American company to steal the Hydrocarbons, instead of doing it herself?

And bullshit! No American company is ever going to have an agreement to drill in the Cypriot EEZ against EXXON and US interests., If they did that, they would be shut down by the US Government. That is who will stop them.

In addition to that, Cyprus has signed agreements with some of the largest companies from the USA, Israel, Italy, France and Britain.

You did however mention that Turkey will get cracked into place. well that is a distinct possibility. Do you think they will do to the Americans what they did to Italy?

How can you call it bullshit when I was the first one in this forum who predicted that Turkey would STEAL hydrocarbons from Cyprus' EEZ??
Btw you should try to control your habit of initiating inflammatory/derogatory remarks.
Sure I was wrong predicting that an American company would do the job, but the main point was not that. The main point was that she would STEAL and nobody would do anything. Has anyone else ever thought of that? If yes show me!
The fact is Turkey has already bought it's own drilling platform and she's is going to drill in plot 3 that Eni itself has rented! Is that news to you Paphitis???

[Get Real!]

How can you call it bullshit when I was the first one in this forum who predicted that Turkey would STEAL hydrocarbons from Cyprus' EEZ??
Btw you should try to control your habit of initiating inflammatory/derogatory remarks.
Sure I was wrong predicting that an American company would do the job, but the main point was not that. The main point was that she would STEAL and nobody would do anything. Has anyone else ever thought of that? If yes show me!
The fact is Turkey has already bought it's own drilling platform and she's is going to drill in plot 3 that Eni itself has rented! Is that news to you Paphitis???

I wouldn't brag about "predicting" something that never happened!

There's a BIG difference between "she is going" and "she has".

[Paphitis]

It’s very easy to identify a propaganda site from another which is not. Basically a propaganda site either provides false evidence or no evidence at all. I have read almost all the links RH provided and I am sorry to say that the only propaganda I noticed was that coming from MM that form the leading views.
You also have to distinguish between conspiracy theories and alternative views. When I implied to you that it’s the UK who poisoned Skripal I did that on purpose because in the absence of any evidence that’s a conspiracy theory-albeit of the same magnitude as the other conspiracy theory (that the Russians did it) promoted by the UK Government.

C'mon Pyro, what evidence did these websites provide ever? All they provide is a bunch of conspiracy theories. Someone must be responsible for the poisoning of the Skiprals on British soil using Chemical weapons.

The state resonsible must have possession of these Chemical nerve Agents and have the motive and reason to do it and there is only one country with a motive.

Tim Drayton left because of this arsehole.

Any link? I think I was away when this happened.
I ‘ve known Tim a long time ago. I know he would object to this content and call us both "dedikodu". Google it, it’s Turkish..

cyprus45676-60.html?hilit=Tim%20Drayton#p860000

I genuinely consider Tim Drayton as a friend no matter what disagreements I have with him because he is a nice guy.

Tim had a lot of run ins with the idiot, and encountered a great deal of vitriol until he had enough and decided to leave because he thought it was pointless.

Tim would now say you are a Koca dedikodu.
By saying he was "kicked out" you actually mean RH was banned, right? You will be surprised to learn that most of the times it’s an honor to get banned from a certain forum.
Do you for example know that some of the most honorable members of this forum (both GCs and TCs) were banned from this forum as well? I bet you don’t even know the reasons…
Going against the mainstream view is a very good reason to get banned in a forum.
Ask GR how many times he was banned from the Atca forum LOL.
So nothing surprising here and nothing supporting the view that RH is the kind of bad person you think he is.

RH got banned from a Brit expat forum. The members there are probably the sweetest kind of people you will find on a forum. pretty intelligent and extremely polite. It's very difficult to get banned from there. Not even I came close and they were very welcoming to me. Mostly older retirees they were that just don't want any trouble. Yet, hoodwinked doesn't have any friends there. he is not welcome there. I can provide you with many links depicting the idiots utter stupidity and the ghastly encounters he had with some pretty calm people.

Tim would not call me anything. In fact, I am pretty sure he considers me a friend also.

Well, I have figured and many times he has made some comments which go against Cypriot Interests and which are supportive of Turkey. He will deny it. But many times he has ridiculed Cyprus on its hydrocarbons, and its ability to get a solution.

I have seen those comments and I am sorry to say that I don’t agree with you. The latest one I think was about the ability of the National Guard. They are simply the views of someone who’s an outsider and as such can be excused of missing important details making his view partially wrong. Many Cypriots have similar views as well. Doesn’t mean they are supportive of Turkey.
This is what this forum is all about. Discussing and correcting each other when we are wrong.
In fact I did reply to RH and I am sure he understood my points.
Here’s my complete reply:
cyprus46082.html#p863573

Oh no Pyro that is where you are wrong. The guy was supportive of BREXIT because it was in Russia's interests.

For the moment I will only reply selectively as I don't have much time.
I participated in that discussion and I know the reasons he supported Brexit.
a)because iho the EU will eventually collapse
b)because he think the UK will be better off in the long run.
You claim he supported it because it was in Russia's interests- he never made such claim and it's just your own suspicion.
Don't let your sentiments drive you to wrong conclusions.

Cyprus isn't even a consideration to him compared to Russia's interest. he said many times that Cyprus should accept all of Turkey's demands. He has also blamed Cypriot recalcirance for the fact that a solution has never been found thus far.

You also mentioned UK in the above thread supporting turkish interests when that is NOT the case. Britain supports the RoC's UNCLOS rights as does the US.

A long time ago I also posted this.
cyprus45631-250.html#p862150
Who can accuse me of undermining RoC’s ability to protect her interests, when the only thing I predicted wrong was that Turkey would use an American company to steal the Hydrocarbons, instead of doing it herself?

And bullshit! No American company is ever going to have an agreement to drill in the Cypriot EEZ against EXXON and US interests., If they did that, they would be shut down by the US Government. That is who will stop them.

In addition to that, Cyprus has signed agreements with some of the largest companies from the USA, Israel, Italy, France and Britain.

You did however mention that Turkey will get cracked into place. well that is a distinct possibility. Do you think they will do to the Americans what they did to Italy?

How can you call it bullshit when I was the first one in this forum who predicted that Turkey would STEAL hydrocarbons from Cyprus' EEZ??
Btw you should try to control your habit of initiating inflammatory/derogatory remarks.
Sure I was wrong predicting that an American company would do the job, but the main point was not that. The main point was that she would STEAL and nobody would do anything. Has anyone else ever thought of that? If yes show me!
The fact is Turkey has already bought it's own drilling platform and she's is going to drill in plot 3 that Eni itself has rented! Is that news to you Paphitis???

It's not in his opinion that he thinks the EU will collapse. he wants it to collapse and there is a very big difference. To him, the EU = NATO and an extension of capitalism and American Imperialism.

You have stated that in your opinion Turkey will steal hydrocarbons. It hasn't done so thus far. And if it does, it will be stealing not just from Cyprus but from American, French, Italian and Israeli interests. That will be no small thing and there will be consequences for Turkey.