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[lonewolfcypriot]

Our ilk? What do you mean by our ilk? Every Cypriot is a part of my ilk friend. Don't give me this bullshit that my ethnic group doesn't exist. Never say that again because it is real and I believe in it. You can self identify as whatever you want but don't try and deconstruct my identity because it gives me the will to live. Understand?

[Get Real!]

Cypriot nationalism is good but in our country it’s rather complex.

Some people have trouble shaking off the instilled Greekness or Turkishness because that’s what they were taught at schools when their young minds were developing. The “ethnic systems” catch children early on when they’re at their most vulnerable and shape them into “dual-citizenship” drones to preserve an “ethnic” divide.

This divide is of course manufactured to serve Greece and Turkey’s selfish games and many of our citizens fall for it and become willing participants.

It seems that only those who somehow escaped Cypriot primary schooling are able to think for themselves having avoided the indoctrination.

The imaginary solution? If we had two little red buttons that blew Greece and Turkey to smithereens I can guarantee you that Greekness and Turkishness would be out of the school curriculum the following year and every Cypriot child would start graduating with a healthy mind thinking only of their own country… Cyprus.

The realistic solution? Good luck out of this stupid mess Cyprus… you’re gonna need it!

[repulsewarrior]

...indeed, it takes something small to change intentions; something so simple that even a five year old understands its depth.

...i do not agree Pyr, that there are fewer of us call us Cypriot, unwilling to accept being divided as "Greeks" and "Turks", as though we don't exist.

...but i don't think that at this moment as a People they(we) are willing to die for it, Cyprus. Although i never doubt we would, like those who chose to stay being close to their land, there will be Cypriots who resist as willing, if that moment arrives again.

While Turkey would like us to remain a backwater, a barrack with services, Cypriots are self-sustaining. After decades of illegal occupation, and assimilation, the "Turks" have failed in erasing this identity, a Cypriot who is Turkish, like the "Greeks" who have had no better luck with Cypriots who are Greek. This is fact.

...now Paphitis (who started this thread) wants to give up, he wants to be "Greek", just when the going is going to get tough, he forgets, the way.

Dude, if i can call you that, Australia is not a BBF? I know Canada and the USA are, you, you told me that Australia is one too...

"Be" Cypriot, i say. "Greek"? "Turkish"? It's the same to me, my Problem, because it is not my problem.

[Get Real!]

...indeed, it takes something small to change intentions; something so simple that even a five year old understands its depth.

...i do not agree Pyr, that there are fewer of us call us Cypriot, unwilling to accept being divided as "Greeks" and "Turks", as though we don't exist.

...but i don't think that at this moment that as a People they(we) are willing to die for it. Although i never doubt they would, being close to their land.

While Turkey would like us to remain a backwater, a barrack with services, Cypriots are self-sustaining. After decades of illegal occupation, and assimilation, the "Turks" have failed in erasing this identity, a Cypriot who is Turkish, like the "Greeks" who have had no better luck with Cypriots who are Greek. This is fact.

...now Paphitis (who started this thread) wants to give up, he wants to be "Greek", just when the going is going to get tough, he forgets, the way.

Dude, if i can call you that, Australia is not a BBF? I know Canada and the USA are, you told me that Australia is one too...

"Be" Cypriot, i say. "Greek"? "Turkish"? It's the same to me, my Problem, because it is not my problem.

There’s nothing more annoying for me than to have to wade through nonsense and you are the king of nonsense!

One can only barely begin to imagine what kind of utter chaos reigns supreme in that pea under your scalp…

If you were my next door neighbor I'd probably kill you and end up in prison.

[repulsewarrior]

...what exactly GR are you talking about?

[Get Real!]

...what exactly GR are you talking about?

Well there’s your problem right there!

You don’t even know that you’re talking nonsense… but then again, had you known that you write nonsense you would’ve corrected it but that is NOT possible because your brain is chaotic and your “logic” twisted.

There’s no cure I’m afraid but euthanasia…

[Paphitis]

My family and fellow Turkish Cypriots scorn me constantly for my political views and call me a Greek boy. We on Cyprus Forum form a bubble for people who share similar views. Without this web site, I would feel extremely lonely. Pathitis, If you feel depressed with the current predicament. Just remember that we all feel your pain and you are not alone.

I embrace the Cypriotness among us and have great respect for many TC friends as they have towards me and other GCs
The CP will not be solved this way though. You know why? Because our ilk is a tiny minority. And it's not growing.
Has been tried and remained stagnant. Sad but true.

On the other hand you thinking the the TCs are nothing but GCs who speak Turkish hence calling you a Greek boy, and Paphitis who thinks the TCs are Turks are totally disoriented, and part of the problem.

I never said any such thing.

[Paphitis]

...indeed, it takes something small to change intentions; something so simple that even a five year old understands its depth.

...i do not agree Pyr, that there are fewer of us call us Cypriot, unwilling to accept being divided as "Greeks" and "Turks", as though we don't exist.

...but i don't think that at this moment as a People they(we) are willing to die for it, Cyprus. Although i never doubt we would, like those who chose to stay being close to their land, there will be Cypriots who resist as willing, if that moment arrives again.

While Turkey would like us to remain a backwater, a barrack with services, Cypriots are self-sustaining. After decades of illegal occupation, and assimilation, the "Turks" have failed in erasing this identity, a Cypriot who is Turkish, like the "Greeks" who have had no better luck with Cypriots who are Greek. This is fact.

...now Paphitis (who started this thread) wants to give up, he wants to be "Greek", just when the going is going to get tough, he forgets, the way.

Dude, if i can call you that, Australia is not a BBF? I know Canada and the USA are, you, you told me that Australia is one too...

"Be" Cypriot, i say. "Greek"? "Turkish"? It's the same to me, my Problem, because it is not my problem.

I am Greek RW. I am willing to call myself Cypriot only like you if others do the same and it solves the problems in Cyprus. I am also a very willing participant to Cypriot Nationalism all the way. Australians call themselves Australian, not British, or Irish or German. It isn’t a problem at all.

Unfortunately, I am not hopeful. I do not believe it will happen or make any difference. Would absolutely love to be wrong and I hope I am wrong. There is always some hope.

Sadly, Turkey I do not believe will let go.

But as for me being Greek. I got no problem with Greece. I feel at home there. I like being around Greek People, I love eating Greek Food, I love Greek Music, Dance and Culture. And of course, Greece is beautiful. Make no mistake about that. When I am in Cyprus I only go for a few days these days. That’s because when I leave Cyprus I go to Greece and I just feel better every time I go there. Like being born again. I even tell my wife to go to Cyprus by herself and I just go to the pad in Greece and wait for her and the children in Greece. I do not desire to be in Cyprus anymore. Even all the foreigners give me the shits as they do in Athens as well.

I feel at home when I am in Greece, as much, if not more than Cyprus. There are many things I like more about Greece.

I believe Cyprus is going to be Turkified. At the moment this is restricted to 37% of the island.

I can’t deal with that. I would far prefer being in Greece than a Cyprus I can’t identify with. I got no problem with Turkish Peiple. I love their food, and even their music too. It’s beautiful. I even like parts of their culture. But I can’t identify with them as much as I identify with Cyprus or Greece.

Again, I hope I am wrong but things are not going very well. Think 50 years down the track. I envisage a very different Cyprus which I am not going to like at all. I hope I am wrong.

[repulsewarrior]

...respect Paphitis, being born in Greece, being Greek, i understand you better now.

[Paphitis]

...indeed, it takes something small to change intentions; something so simple that even a five year old understands its depth.

...i do not agree Pyr, that there are fewer of us call us Cypriot, unwilling to accept being divided as "Greeks" and "Turks", as though we don't exist.

...but i don't think that at this moment as a People they(we) are willing to die for it, Cyprus. Although i never doubt we would, like those who chose to stay being close to their land, there will be Cypriots who resist as willing, if that moment arrives again.

While Turkey would like us to remain a backwater, a barrack with services, Cypriots are self-sustaining. After decades of illegal occupation, and assimilation, the "Turks" have failed in erasing this identity, a Cypriot who is Turkish, like the "Greeks" who have had no better luck with Cypriots who are Greek. This is fact.

...now Paphitis (who started this thread) wants to give up, he wants to be "Greek", just when the going is going to get tough, he forgets, the way.

Dude, if i can call you that, Australia is not a BBF? I know Canada and the USA are, you, you told me that Australia is one too...

"Be" Cypriot, i say. "Greek"? "Turkish"? It's the same to me, my Problem, because it is not my problem.

What are you talking about? USA, Canada and Australia are not BBF.

There are no restrictions imposed on any citizen because of their religion or race. People have freedom of movement, freedom of association, the right to buy and own property anywhere, and equal rights.

USA, Australia and Canada are Federations with a strong Central Government. No rotating Presidencies or Treaty of Guarantee either. I do not believe Federation is on the table from the Turks. They are pushing for their terms, which is their way or the highway so to speak. Hence, these are Surrender Talks not Peace talks.

Also, there is no external influence aside from some Russian espionage and unwanted meddling in our elections. We are at war in the cyberspace. Hacking into electricity grids and what not.