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by **Zenon33** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:26 pm

Seems that Anastasiades will be re-elected. The president enjoys a solid lead by at least 10 points against Malas and Papadopoulos.
The last three polls :

Anastasiades 34, Malas 21, Papadopoulos 22 (Symmetron)
Anastasiades 32 Malas 18 Papadopoulos 14 (Noverna)
Anastasiades 30 Malas 18 Papadopoulos 18 (Pulse)

by **Sotos** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:50 pm

If Malas passes to the second round then Anastasiades will be re-elected. If Papadopoulos passes to the second round then the final result is uncertain.

by **Get Real!** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:02 pm

I’m not concerned about who wins because none of these three individuals have the political acumen to play any level of power politics that could lead to the liberation of Cyprus.

If I were you, I wouldn’t worry too much about which of these three gets into power because the result for Cyprus will be exactly the same.

I’m more interested in a collapse of the US and a subsequent Russian/Chinese takeover, which will surely bring the much needed change the world needs... that may also lead to the liberation of Cyprus.

America at the helm has been catastrophic for Cyprus (Christians in general) and most beneficial for Turkey/Israel/Pakistan/Saudis and other backwards Islamic peasants, so a 180 degree change is what us Cypriots need, and indeed the Christian world.

America is public enemy #1.

by **Zenon33** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:04 pm

Sotos wrote:If Malas passes to the second round then Anastasiades will be re-elected. If Papadopoulos passes to the second round then the final result is uncertain.

I think he will be re-elected, also against Papadopoulos in a second round. The Diko boy is too divisive.

by **Sotos** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:11 pm

Get Real! wrote:I’m not concerned about who wins because none of these three individuals have the political acumen to play any level of power politics that could lead to the liberation of Cyprus.

Nobody can play "power politics" as a president of a small island. But while none of them can liberate Cyprus, only 2 of them are likely to sign a surrender so called "solution" that would partition Cyprus officially by upgrading the pseudo state to a legal entity, downgrade our side and make it equal to a minority and then have some dysfunctional 50%-50% partnership with the Turks (TCs/Settlers) which would allow Turkey to control the whole Cyprus. So it does matter who gets elected.

by **Get Real!** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:15 pm

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I’m not concerned about who wins because none of these three individuals have the political acumen to play any level of power politics that could lead to the liberation of Cyprus.

Nobody can play "power politics" as a president of a small island. But while none of them can liberate Cyprus, only 2 of them are likely to sign a surrender so called "solution" that would partition Cyprus officially by upgrading the pseudo state to a legal entity, downgrade our side and make it equal to a minority and then have some dysfunctional 50%-50% partnership with the Turks (TCs/Settlers) which would allow Turkey to control the whole Cyprus. So it does matter who gets elected.

Nicos had 4 years in power to commit the ultimate treason but to many people’s surprise he didn’t! Paps… there’s no way he would do that, and Malas… I have no idea.

by **Sotos** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:39 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I’m not concerned about who wins because none of these three individuals have the political acumen to play any level of power politics that could lead to the liberation of Cyprus.

Nobody can play "power politics" as a president of a small island. But while none of them can liberate Cyprus, only 2 of them are likely to sign a surrender so called "solution" that would partition Cyprus officially by upgrading the pseudo state to a legal entity, downgrade our side and make it equal to a minority and then have some dysfunctional 50%-50% partnership with the Turks (TCs/Settlers) which would allow Turkey to control the whole Cyprus. So it does matter who gets elected.

Nicos had 4 years in power to commit the ultimate treason but to many people’s surprise he didn’t! Paps… there’s no way he would do that, and Malas… I have no idea.

The only reason Anastasides didn't do it is because the Turks gave nothing to him. He already gave them the 99% of what they want but Erdogan wouldn't even give 1% up. If Anastasiades or Malas get elected then they will continue with even more compromises for a "solution" which is 99.9% what the Turks want.

by **miltiades** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:22 am

As a new comer to Cyprus I have not as yet formed a reasonable opinion as to which of the main contenders would be more suitable although Im almost certain that Anastasiades will be re elected.

The most fundamental task will be the removal of the occupying Turkish forces from our island.

I have always supported a united Cyprus and have always considered the Turkish Cypriots as Cypriots first and foremost.
We must never accept Turkey as a guarantor with intervention rights, a third world nation and an islamic nation has no place on our island. Recent events have shown that this nation has no respect for the values that we hold so high such as freedom of the press and freedom of speech, in fact no islamic nation shares our values, the values that we must protect at all costs. Erdogan will soon go, and his time will soon come.

Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots, we are an independent nation and we should focus on our only motherland, our true motherland not the perceived ones.

by **Zenon33** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:26 pm

miltiades wrote:As a new comer to Cyprus I have not as yet formed a reasonable opinion as to which of the main contenders would be more suitable although Im almost certain that Anastasiades will be re elected.

The most fundamental task will be the removal of the occupying Turkish forces from our island.

I have always supported a united Cyprus and have always considered the Turkish Cypriots as Cypriots first and foremost.
We must never accept Turkey as a guarantor with intervention rights, a third world nation and an islamic nation has no place on our island. Recent events have shown that this nation has no respect for the values that we hold so high such as freedom of the press and freedom of speech, in fact no islamic nation shares our values, the values that we must protect at all costs. Erdogan will soon go, and his time will soon come.

Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots, we are an independent nation and we should focus on our only motherland, our true motherland not the perceived ones.

You're right but mainstream parties and candidates (Anastasiades and Malas) want the pro-turk solution. Only Papadopoulos is sceptical.

by **supporttheunderdog** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:04 pm

I think we all in the unoccupied area of the ROC and hopefully many in the occupied zone want the Tur*ish occupation forces gone, along with (except for certain very limited exceptions) the return of properties to lawful owners. The problem is that sadly Turkey is still seen as more important to eg the US as a place for near-east bases close to Southern Russia or the EU as a source of cheapo goods, and we do only enjoy lip-service support (even from our socalled friends , in Russia), with the consequence that if we want an early solution, probably some sort of concesions must be made with a settlement as envisaged in UN Resolutions. Not ideal, but can beggers be chosers?

I am by no means certain that Erdogan will be gone as soon as we would like, and the danger is who might replace him, where we have Turkey being increasingly bellicose in EG its dealings with Greece on the Aegean Islands, Syria and Iraq, and some Opposition politicians may be worse.

The risk is that a hard liner as president will only cement the position and I could indeed, under some circumstances, see Russia recognising the occupation regime if it would help get Turkey out of Nato. Then we are in the deep do-do.