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[MrH]

Although it seems as laughable and impractical, it has been 43 years since the Greeks instigated the intervommunal bloodshed on the 15th July 1974, prompting Turkey to intervene and saving all Cypriots from complete Yugoslavian Style termination, we are now 43 years of pointless Federal Talks down the line and there's still very little hope of the Greek Cypriots agreeing to the basics of such an agreement.

Now that Anastasiades has also messed things up once again, the call for re-engaging in the talks under the same Framework has also been lost.

Any new talks now will only commence on the fundamental Redlines of BOTH sides, where if this is not agreed to, the. The TRNC, like how Britain has left the EU and how Turkey has dismissed any signs of ever wanting to enter the currier and bias EU, the TRNC is now gearing itself under the same British process in formulating a referendum to its people to finally remove itself from the current UN talks process and go it alone. In fact, they have already done this, particularly with the 1983 Declaration of Independence (which was a correct, pragmatic and visionary prediction which Anastasiades has once again proven Denktas right!). Turkey in Northern Cyprus has clearly since geared every institution and governmental laws in Line with its own.

If the Greek Cypriots think that a simple kick start of the talks can commence without any timelines or Turkeys Guarantees and our Equality, then I would suggest everyone on this forum to stop wasting their lives posting and learn how to more productively learn an instrument.

Also, with the new country of Kurdistan emerging in Northern Iraq, it appears that Turkey will no longer have a Kurdish battle on their hands anymore, and the establishment of that new country will give Turkey the perfect reason to go down the line of full recognition for the TRNC.

[B25]

Utter Bollocks yet again MrH.

Why do you keep on, you sound desperate, clingy and have an inferiority complex. You are the ones that want in, not us yet you keep writing this nonsense as if we are going to cave. We are no, get that into your thick head.

As for the Kurds, yeah, ok, that's after your Erdocunt has threatened to bomb them, threatened military action and even shut down their tv stations broadcasting. As if you give a F about the Kurds. Let us see first what sort of country they will get before you start jizzing over Cyprus.

So, I am also guessing that if you do go it alone, you will hand back all the RoC passports and ID's, forego any benefits you MF parasites are taking from the RoC and will have no claim on anything coming out of the EEZ???

But knowing you MFs you want what's yours and you also want what's ours. Hade assirktir stop busting our balls. Go join Turkey, be illegal all your lives you will never get recognition. And the fact that the UK would be out of the EU bears no relevance to what we decide to do.

[B25]

So much for Turkey solving the Kurdish problem:

urkish president Erdoğan threatens the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) with a military invasion for holding a referendum.
He says: "One night, we might come to you unexpectedly." (That's what the sentence on the sceeen means.)
As is known, Turkey is a nation controlled by bloodthirsty warmongering madmen and mainstream media that systematically spread racist state propaganda. Will the West stay silent if Turkey continues harassing Iraqi Kurdistan?

[Sotos]

You are the one who is wasting your time... just look how many pointless posts you have made that contain nothing more than lies about the past and threats about the future. Your lies can not change the past and your threats have zero effect on shaping the future. Time for you to change you tactics if you want something to change. You can only choose one direction: Turkey or Europe. You can't have it both ways and you can't get everything your way. There are 3 possible futures for you: (1) You become fully integrated into the Islamic undemocratic state of Turkey and you eventually lose your Cyprus/EU passports and access to the free areas. Congrats for helping Turkey to win and for you becoming the biggest losers. (2) You accept a BBF that is acceptable to us. That means, for example, no Turkish troops and guarantees and your share in the running of the central government is proportional to your size. This is how you can actually win the most possible. Keep insisting for the impossible and what you will end up with is way less. (3) You are eventually kicked out of Cyprus altogether when Turkey becomes the next Iraq/Syria. The choice is yours.

[MrH]

Sotos, you are seriously dreaming. Do you know how I know that you are wrong? Because:

1. The TRNC still exists
2. Your leaders have failed on every attempt to clinch a Unitary Greek Cypriot majority controlled Cyprus solution
3. Turkey's presence is even more stronger than it was pre-1974
4. Anastasiades is begging for the return of BBF talks
5. Finally, apart from the growing acknowledgement see by other countries working with the TRNC under Turkey's control, your side's entry into the EU has gained absolutely NO advantage to your position- thus, it shows how stupid your political establishment is!

[Get Real!]

1. The TRNC still exists
2. Your leaders have failed on every attempt to clinch a Unitary Greek Cypriot majority controlled Cyprus solution
3. Turkey's presence is even more stronger than it was pre-1974
4. Anastasiades is begging for the return of BBF talks
5. Finally, apart from the growing acknowledgement see by other countries working with the TRNC under Turkey's control, your side's entry into the EU has gained absolutely NO advantage to your position- thus, it shows how stupid your political establishment is!

The occupied territory must remain frozen in time until such time when it is advantageous for the RoC to thaw it. It’s like they’ve placed it in a freezer, locked it up and threw the key away for good reasons and there’s not enough Turkish yapping that can reverse this.

It is the Republic's territory and they can do as they please with it... it is not yours.

[MrH]

Get Real, that is your ignorant illusion that the TRNC is perceived as being frozen in time. Just look at the advancements it has made and is still making in every sector at an international level. Also, that territory belonged to the ORIGINAL Cyprus Republic, one that the Turkish Cypriot Bi-Partber people are no longer a part of, one that your leaders are still trying to broker a deal with, and one that the EU has further fuelled and cemented its complete disassociation with your GC-Hijacked ROC.

[MrH]

Also, FACT - no other nation is this world refers to the TRNC, Northern Cyprus as the "occupied zone" besides the Greek world. No one! That should make you realise how strong our lobby groups are. In fact, the mere practise of your people crossing over the legally accepted CEASEFIRE Line and enjoying the TRNC is evidence of how wrong you are! Unless your leaders accept our conditions for a BBF, the GC-ROC remains exactly that! You people destroyed the original Cyprus Republic and not us. Keep living in your made up dream world while your own President continues to beg and cry for Akinci and Turkey to return to the table. Stop kidding yourselves....you don't own Cyprus.

[Get Real!]

Also, FACT - no other nation is this world refers to the TRNC, Northern Cyprus as the "occupied zone" besides the Greek world. No one! That should make you realise how strong our lobby groups are. In fact, the mere practise of your people crossing over the legally accepted CEASEFIRE Line and enjoying the TRNC is evidence of how wrong you are! Unless your leaders accept our conditions for a BBF, the GC-ROC remains exactly that! You people destroyed the original Cyprus Republic and not us. Keep living in your made up dream world while your own President continues to beg and cry for Akinci and Turkey to return to the table. Stop kidding yourselves....you don't own Cyprus.

It’s frozen so forget it!

It cannot function as anything other than an occupied territory and that’s why most abandon it for a normal country, your self included!

It doesn’t have an economy surviving on handouts, it has no functioning ports, it has no relation with other countries, it has no identity other than “occupied territory”, it can’t participate in any events (sports/musical/other), it even has an official banning by the UN in writing declaring it illegal, null and void!

That’s frozen in time, locked… key thrown away until further notice and the RoC is that master who determines this fate.

Such is the Ottoman remnant's curse on Cyprus.

[repulsewarrior]

..."you don't own Cyprus."

Again I have to ask, who do you mean by, "you".