Maximus wrote:Either way, it looks like one person would have been killed.
I dont envy their job at all.
No it does not, Max. You are reaching a conclusion prematurely.
Had the cop used a least lethal weapon which he had access to to prevent any deaths, it should have been the choice of the day and used the taser. Killing one person by the cop on the assumption that he was saving another, he too was reaching a conclusion with such decisions, which may bring charges against him for using unwarranted excessive force and manslaughter charges, if not 2nd & 3rd degree murder charges. He was not duty bound to save one life by killing another. He made that decision on his own, therefore he also needs to face the consequences.
It is no wonder people do not get involved in such disputes in the US as Good Samaritans, because they would get sued by the person they were trying to help if something went wrong. They had to create “The Good Samaritan Act Law” in the hopes to protect those giving help to those needing it. To many, it is still a gamble and a risk.
Let’s face is, America has a violent society and the system is fucked up no matter how most Americans are, which is very friendly and it is a beautiful country, but it is still fucked up from it’s politics to societal problems to crimes to a trickle down economics in the land of brute capitalism where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer with the shrinking middle class in a dog eat dog system of have’s and have nots.
It does look like the girl in pink would have lost her life if she got stabbed.
And yes, you are also just second guessing the outcome as well.
Maximus wrote:Either way, it looks like one person would have been killed.
I dont envy their job at all.
No it does not, Max. You are reaching a conclusion prematurely.
Had the cop used a least lethal weapon which he had access to to prevent any deaths, it should have been the choice of the day and used the taser. Killing one person by the cop on the assumption that he was saving another, he too was reaching a conclusion with such decisions, which may bring charges against him for using unwarranted excessive force and manslaughter charges, if not 2nd & 3rd degree murder charges. He was not duty bound to save one life by killing another. He made that decision on his own, therefore he also needs to face the consequences.
It is no wonder people do not get involved in such disputes in the US as Good Samaritans, because they would get sued by the person they were trying to help if something went wrong. They had to create “The Good Samaritan Act Law” in the hopes to protect those giving help to those needing it. To many, it is still a gamble and a risk.
Let’s face is, America has a violent society and the system is fucked up no matter how most Americans are, which is very friendly and it is a beautiful country, but it is still fucked up from it’s politics to societal problems to crimes to a trickle down economics in the land of brute capitalism where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer with the shrinking middle class in a dog eat dog system of have’s and have nots.
It does look like the girl in pink would have lost her life if she got stabbed.
And yes, you are also just second guessing the outcome as well.
No, I am not second guessing the outcome. I can only go by what has occurred and not by what might have occurred. Big difference.
Maximus wrote:Either way, it looks like one person would have been killed.
I dont envy their job at all.
No it does not, Max. You are reaching a conclusion prematurely.
Had the cop used a least lethal weapon which he had access to to prevent any deaths, it should have been the choice of the day and used the taser. Killing one person by the cop on the assumption that he was saving another, he too was reaching a conclusion with such decisions, which may bring charges against him for using unwarranted excessive force and manslaughter charges, if not 2nd & 3rd degree murder charges. He was not duty bound to save one life by killing another. He made that decision on his own, therefore he also needs to face the consequences.
It is no wonder people do not get involved in such disputes in the US as Good Samaritans, because they would get sued by the person they were trying to help if something went wrong. They had to create “The Good Samaritan Act Law” in the hopes to protect those giving help to those needing it. To many, it is still a gamble and a risk.
Let’s face is, America has a violent society and the system is fucked up no matter how most Americans are, which is very friendly and it is a beautiful country, but it is still fucked up from it’s politics to societal problems to crimes to a trickle down economics in the land of brute capitalism where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer with the shrinking middle class in a dog eat dog system of have’s and have nots.
It does look like the girl in pink would have lost her life if she got stabbed.
And yes, you are also just second guessing the outcome as well.
But you are not second guessing are you? Stupid boy?
Maximus wrote:Either way, it looks like one person would have been killed.
I dont envy their job at all.
No it does not, Max. You are reaching a conclusion prematurely.
Had the cop used a least lethal weapon which he had access to to prevent any deaths, it should have been the choice of the day and used the taser. Killing one person by the cop on the assumption that he was saving another, he too was reaching a conclusion with such decisions, which may bring charges against him for using unwarranted excessive force and manslaughter charges, if not 2nd & 3rd degree murder charges. He was not duty bound to save one life by killing another. He made that decision on his own, therefore he also needs to face the consequences.
It is no wonder people do not get involved in such disputes in the US as Good Samaritans, because they would get sued by the person they were trying to help if something went wrong. They had to create “The Good Samaritan Act Law” in the hopes to protect those giving help to those needing it. To many, it is still a gamble and a risk.
Let’s face is, America has a violent society and the system is fucked up no matter how most Americans are, which is very friendly and it is a beautiful country, but it is still fucked up from it’s politics to societal problems to crimes to a trickle down economics in the land of brute capitalism where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer with the shrinking middle class in a dog eat dog system of have’s and have nots.
It does look like the girl in pink would have lost her life if she got stabbed.
And yes, you are also just second guessing the outcome as well.
No, I am not second guessing the outcome. I can only go by what has occurred and not by what might have occurred. Big difference.
Me too.
One girl wasn't able to protect herself against a potentially lethal stabbing, so the police officer that was called to the scene had to react in the heat of the moment to act on her behalf,
Maximus wrote:Either way, it looks like one person would have been killed.
I dont envy their job at all.
No it does not, Max. You are reaching a conclusion prematurely.
Had the cop used a least lethal weapon which he had access to to prevent any deaths, it should have been the choice of the day and used the taser. Killing one person by the cop on the assumption that he was saving another, he too was reaching a conclusion with such decisions, which may bring charges against him for using unwarranted excessive force and manslaughter charges, if not 2nd & 3rd degree murder charges. He was not duty bound to save one life by killing another. He made that decision on his own, therefore he also needs to face the consequences.
It is no wonder people do not get involved in such disputes in the US as Good Samaritans, because they would get sued by the person they were trying to help if something went wrong. They had to create “The Good Samaritan Act Law” in the hopes to protect those giving help to those needing it. To many, it is still a gamble and a risk.
Let’s face is, America has a violent society and the system is fucked up no matter how most Americans are, which is very friendly and it is a beautiful country, but it is still fucked up from it’s politics to societal problems to crimes to a trickle down economics in the land of brute capitalism where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer with the shrinking middle class in a dog eat dog system of have’s and have nots.
It does look like the girl in pink would have lost her life if she got stabbed.
And yes, you are also just second guessing the outcome as well.
No, I am not second guessing the outcome. I can only go by what has occurred and not by what might have occurred. Big difference.
Me too.
One girl wasn't able to protect herself against a potentially lethal stabbing, so the police officer that was called to the scene had to react in the heat of the moment to act on her behalf,
thats about it, in a nutshell.
No, you are saying had the police did not shoot the girl with the knife, the lady in the pink would have been killed by the knife. There’s no way you can conclude that and neither should the cop since he had other options. He choose the deadly one and now he must answer to it.
Maximus wrote:Either way, it looks like one person would have been killed.
I dont envy their job at all.
No it does not, Max. You are reaching a conclusion prematurely.
Had the cop used a least lethal weapon which he had access to to prevent any deaths, it should have been the choice of the day and used the taser. Killing one person by the cop on the assumption that he was saving another, he too was reaching a conclusion with such decisions, which may bring charges against him for using unwarranted excessive force and manslaughter charges, if not 2nd & 3rd degree murder charges. He was not duty bound to save one life by killing another. He made that decision on his own, therefore he also needs to face the consequences.
It is no wonder people do not get involved in such disputes in the US as Good Samaritans, because they would get sued by the person they were trying to help if something went wrong. They had to create “The Good Samaritan Act Law” in the hopes to protect those giving help to those needing it. To many, it is still a gamble and a risk.
Let’s face is, America has a violent society and the system is fucked up no matter how most Americans are, which is very friendly and it is a beautiful country, but it is still fucked up from it’s politics to societal problems to crimes to a trickle down economics in the land of brute capitalism where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer with the shrinking middle class in a dog eat dog system of have’s and have nots.
It does look like the girl in pink would have lost her life if she got stabbed.
And yes, you are also just second guessing the outcome as well.
No, I am not second guessing the outcome. I can only go by what has occurred and not by what might have occurred. Big difference.
Me too.
One girl wasn't able to protect herself against a potentially lethal stabbing, so the police officer that was called to the scene had to react in the heat of the moment to act on her behalf,
thats about it, in a nutshell.
How do you know she was not able to defend herself, she could be trained in self defense. Judging by the way she had her leg up against her attacker she may well be trained in the art.
Simple people do not understand what defunding the police is about. They assume they police will be powerless to act. Which is totally wrong. They will be sent to an incident where they are required especially the armed ones.
In London there are two units of armed police response units which are looking after the whole of London. Not all the police need to armed. Look around to see how other countries deal with crime. Logic says policing works better when it is conventual rather than confrontational. With consensual you have the public behind you with confrontational the public will not help you. Those who have taken on board defunding the police have got it, the rest will follow soon.
Maximus wrote:Either way, it looks like one person would have been killed.
I dont envy their job at all.
Don't be fucking stupid, a single stab would does not kill unless it get a certain parts of the body. The copper had a choice to go for his taser or his gun, he had a choice of shooting once in the body which would have certainly stopped the attacked and saved both lives. Instead he went for his gun and not just once but 4 times. I have no doubt he carried on shooting after she was falling down or even on the floor.
In any case who knows how much mentally disturbed this woman was and how little she had from the authorities. This is what defunding the police is about. it is about diverting funds back into the community projects to help the vulnerable people so it does not get to this.
You are so young, you need to learn to drill into facts and see the real picture rather than just spaff out what ever comes into your mind first.
<<<<Crime dropped by nearly a third in New Jersey town where the police department was disbanded and replaced with cops who go door-to-door on their first day to introduce themselves and host neighborhood BBQs and movie nights Camden had one of the highest crime rates in the US before 2012, when the police department was disbanded and replaced Since then, violent crimes per 1,000 people have dropped from 79 to 44 It is now being heralded as a success story for disbanding police departments amid growing national outrage and distrust of law enforcement Scott Thomson, who led the new police force from 2012 to 2019, says the country can learn from them There are calls for varying degrees of action; some want to completely get rid of cops and replace them with community leaders but others want to reduce funding to departments In Minneapolis, the city council says it will vote to disband the department whose officers killed George Floyd They have not yet proposed a suggested replacement for the force and the mayor is against the move The mayor of Los Angeles cut funding to the LAPD by $150million and other cities say they will do the same The national debate has lit up political discourse, with President Trump firmly taking the side of the police He calls it 'crazy' and a notion of the 'radical left' to strip police of resources to give to communities.>>>
This is what I call action and it is all due to BLM taking a stand. There are people who take action even though they know it will hurt their own lives to help humanity. Colin Rand Kaepernick is one such man. Without his first taking the knee all this would not have happened.
Same thing happened in 1968. During their medal ceremony in the Olympic Stadium in Mexico City on October 16, 1968, two African-American athletes, Tommie Smith and John Carlos, each raised a black-gloved fist during the playing of the US national anthem, "The Star-Spangled Banner". While on the podium, Smith and Carlos, who had won gold and bronze medals respectively in the 200-meter running event of the 1968 Summer Olympics, turned to face the US flag and then kept their hands raised until the anthem had finished. In addition, Smith, Carlos, and Australian silver medalist Peter Norman all wore human-rights badges on their jackets.
And again it happened back in 1965 when MLK marched with from Selma to Montgomery. And I have no doubt there were people before them too. They stood for good, they were and are the real heroes of Humanity. These actions will not only help black people it will help all also help all other people who are suffering.
Here is another one.
Really, and you would take that risk would you? That it will be only one stab and not multiple stabs, and not a single fatal blow to the heart or abdomen.
And since when do cops rock up. Let's say its our Daughters being stabbed. Oh it's only one stab. And she might live! We should be thankful the police officer didn't shoot.
Maximus wrote:You have not come out with a single fact.
Take this blurb of text for example, its full of opinionated BS.
You are just second guessing what the police officer should have or could have done and blaming authorities for this girls behavior.
We just have to wait for the report you stupid boy. Like the other police officer who thought she was going for her tazer and went for her gun and shot her victim.
What I gave you is the possibilities of what could have happened and one of them will be shown to be true. One thing is clear the situation did not require lethal force or the police chief would have confirmed it. Instead he called it a tragedy.
You just have to wait for the report and the court case that will follow. If there is no court case that means it is a cover up. No bugger off and find your biberon.
Sure they would call it a tragedy. That doesn't mean the police officer didn't do what was necessary or required of him.
He did everything that was required of him doing his job. The loss of the 16 year old is naturally a tragedy, but that doesn't change a single thing.
Maximus wrote:Either way, it looks like one person would have been killed.
I dont envy their job at all.
No it does not, Max. You are reaching a conclusion prematurely.
Had the cop used a least lethal weapon which he had access to to prevent any deaths, it should have been the choice of the day and used the taser. Killing one person by the cop on the assumption that he was saving another, he too was reaching a conclusion with such decisions, which may bring charges against him for using unwarranted excessive force and manslaughter charges, if not 2nd & 3rd degree murder charges. He was not duty bound to save one life by killing another. He made that decision on his own, therefore he also needs to face the consequences.
It is no wonder people do not get involved in such disputes in the US as Good Samaritans, because they would get sued by the person they were trying to help if something went wrong. They had to create “The Good Samaritan Act Law” in the hopes to protect those giving help to those needing it. To many, it is still a gamble and a risk.
Let’s face is, America has a violent society and the system is fucked up no matter how most Americans are, which is very friendly and it is a beautiful country, but it is still fucked up from it’s politics to societal problems to crimes to a trickle down economics in the land of brute capitalism where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer with the shrinking middle class in a dog eat dog system of have’s and have nots.
Yes it does Kikapu. It looks like that girl in the pink would have dies. A stab wound in the abdomen is VERY difficult to survive from. Odds do not favour her at all, if she got stabbed by that beast.
You try to run at any police officer with a knife like that, or stab another person, and chances are you will be shot.
The politics are being fucked up by the Democrat Marxists. Fancy these so called activists posing as media trying to frame the good copper who did his job as somehow being "the bad guy"
But they won't away with it. It's all on video and the perpetrator was about to plunge a big arse knife into another girl.
And there is friggin no way any copper would just use a taser because that is no guarantee of incapacitating that Adrenalin fueled raging perpetrator and if he missed, then that girl is stuffed. With a gun he could fire multiple bullets and make sure of it and for good measure.
Kikapu wrote: No, you are saying had the police did not shoot the girl with the knife, the lady in the pink would have been killed by the knife. There’s no way you can conclude that and neither should the cop since he had other options. He choose the deadly one and now he must answer to it.
I can conclude from my perspective that had that girl been stabbed, it would have been lethal.
Just like you can conclude that the police officer should have taken a wait and see approach, or done this that or other.
I think I have the right perspective, yours involves the police officer doing nothing or this or that or the other and playing the aggressor as the victim and the police officer as the criminal.
