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[Londonrake]

Here’s hoping Waters comments don’t get him off at any appeal.

Not a chance.

TV channels and papers made all kinds of comments during the trial, so what’s one more?

In any case, any appeal would be based on the legal merits in the courtroom and not comments made outside the courtroom.

Not necessarily. I think it comes down to a determination on whether the jury could have been influenced. Waters comments attracted condemnation from the judge and his observation they could be pertinent in an appeal, even possibly leading to the verdict being overturned.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/19/poli ... index.html

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[Kikapu]

Here’s hoping Waters comments don’t get him off at any appeal.

Not a chance.

TV channels and papers made all kinds of comments during the trial, so what’s one more?

In any case, any appeal would be based on the legal merits in the courtroom and not comments made outside the courtroom.

Not necessarily. I think it comes down to a determination on whether the jury could have been influenced. Waters comments attracted condemnation from the judge and his observation they could be pertinent in an appeal, even possibly leading to the verdict being overturned.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/19/poli ... index.html

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Yes he did, and he also said that the jury were advised not to watch TV, have phone calls or use the Internet and that he trusted the jury to to comply with their responsibilities and that Maxine’s comment, although regrettable, it did not reach to the level to sway the jurors decision even if they were to have heard it. There’s no proof that the jurors even heard Maxine’s comments. It was a unanimous guilty verdict which means that the jurors quick guilty verdict can only be based on the legal arguments in the courtroom. 2 out of 3 appeal judges need to agree with the defense to even rule to overturning the conviction to a mistrial. As for a complete reversal of the case to innocence, will burn the city of Minneapolis down to cinder.

[Londonrake]

I hope (and suspect) you're right.

I'm sure the idea of an innocence verdict is fantasy though and the worst would be a retrial. Although, that would surely lead to any defence questioning whether, given the saturation coverage, there could possibly be 12 good-and-true that weren't intimately aware and insulated from of all the comments/opinions, from Biden down.

It's - as it seems to an outsider like me, watching the US legal system in action - all a potential matter of technicalities.

[Kikapu]

I hope (and suspect) you're right.

I'm sure the idea of an innocence verdict is fantasy though and the worst would be a retrial. Although, that would surely lead to any defence questioning whether, given the saturation coverage, there could possibly be 12 good-and-true that weren't intimately aware and insulated from of all the comments/opinions, from Biden down.

It's - as it seems to an outsider like me, watching the US legal system in action - all a potential matter of technicalities.

What convicted Chauvin was the 9 minutes and 29 seconds of the video which is the undeniable evidence and “witness” to his actions. Without that video Chauvin would have walked and the police body cameras would have helped him walk. This is why police hate being recorded by the public and ALL the reasons the public should video the police everywhere every time.

[Lordo]

America is waking up. First defunding the police and then the gun laws. it is coming. How the hell did they send 4 armed policemen to arrest a man with a fake 20-dollar bill. This is lunacy. The police chief all the way down should also be prosecuted. The bastard who added putting the knee on a victim’s neck while he is being held down by 3 coppers should also be given a fair trial and shot soon after. This oppression has been going on since the first slaved was dragged over from Africa. When will it end?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/us-cities-defund-police-transferring-money-community


this song is for all the American victims.

[Maximus]

Yep, Merica is waking up,

Joe Bidens first phone call to the Turggish president since he became president of the united states was to tell him that he plans to call the 1915 massacres of 1.5 million Armenians by the Ottomans, a genocide.

How the hell did it take so long.

This oppression of the truth has been going on for more than a century.

Since the day the first Armenian was dragged across Anatolia on death march's. When will it end?

[Maximus]

US president Joe Biden officially recognizes Armenian genocide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKU_Lpe32xU

An overwhelming majority of non-Turkish historians agree that April 24, 1915 was the beginning of a systematic mass murder and expulsion of civilian Armenians by the Ottoman Empire government, which meets the definition of genocide, a claim Ankara rejects.

Leaders and politicians from around the world have issued statements today, to commemorate the 106th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide. Others call on Turkish authorities to face their history and fully recognize the reality of the genocide and the atrocities committed against Armenians.

[Paphitis]

Yep, Merica is waking up,

Joe Bidens first phone call to the Turggish president since he became president of the united states was to tell him that he plans to call the 1915 massacres of 1.5 million Armenians by the Ottomans, a genocide.

How the hell did it take so long.

This oppression of the truth has been going on for more than a century.

Since the day the first Armenian was dragged across Anatolia on death march's. When will it end?

Well that’s a good symbolic move from America.

Now it’s Australia’s turn.

I’ll tell you want takes so long. Money! It comes down to money.

Turkey is a large and developing market for Australia. Our exports there are sharply increasing year on year. Raw materials, Energy, Tech, Agriculture, you name it.

That’s the reason why they avoid the issue. Trade and money.

And when you have a trade war with Chy-na, which is a country guilty of genocide TODAY, you can’t afford to pick fights with too many more like Turkey. Because where do you stop. Chy-na, then Turkey, then Saudi Arabia, then Iran, then Syria, then Russia. Where do you stop?

That’s why it’s just easier ignoring the issue. Australia is still ignoring the issue. It’s a case when someone mentions Armenian Genocide, Australia looks the other way because they prefer the Billions in trade for the time being. One day however, the will recognize it.

[Kikapu]

The remaining 8 countries in the F-35 program has also signed a “treaty” amongst themselves last week, which means Turkey has no chance getting back into the program again as there will be a veto from some countries. This is what happens when Turkey wants to play Russia against USA so that she can benefit from both sides, but the danger is that she can also lose from both sides when playing the role of a whore.

[Paphitis]

The remaining 8 countries in the F-35 program has also signed a “treaty” amongst themselves last week, which means Turkey has no chance getting back into the program again as there will be a veto from some countries. This is what happens when Turkey wants to play Russia against USA so that she can benefit from both sides, but the danger is that she can also lose from both sides when playing the role of a whore.

Yes I heard that.

Australia also said Turkey was a security concern because of the S400 program. It turns out they are worried about Russian telemetry on installed Turkish S400 systems when F-35s are flying round at close proximity.

But at the end of the day, I think what it comes down to is what America wants. The other 7 countries will have no say compared to America. But the Americans will be weary of any security concerns so they won't go against the other 7 countries if the concerns are legit.