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Re: ...this is America.

Postby erolz66 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:10 pm

Paphitis wrote:But then saying Trump and Epstein were friends is a major stretch, especially when Trump has made cryptic statements referring to Epstein's antics with under aged minors.


Here is the original 2002 New York magazine article in question. It is the source. https://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

And yet if you talk to Donald Trump, a different Epstein emerges. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”


Not once since that article was published in 2002 has Trump ever denied saying these things.

Paphitis wrote:The Trump presidency has been a great thing in holding this person to account. It's a pity however, that Epstein "committed suicide" in a Federal Prison under very suspicious circumstances.


Trump's record is

1. He appointed Acosta as labour secretary. This is the man who gave Epstein a secret plea deal in 2009 that ended the federal investigation in to Epstein and allowed him to serve a few months with 12 hour a day 'day release' and then go on to sexual abuse minors for another 10 years.
2. He or his AG has now sacked Berman, the New York Southern District AG who finally prosecuted and ended Epstein's reign of sexual abuse of minors and who's ongoing investigation is the one seeking testimony and co operation from Prince Andrew,

These are the facts.

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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:22 pm

Maximus wrote:Dont waste your time qualifying yourself to him Paphitis,

His facist and racist views on the Cyprus issue are well know,

His mentality comes from a political sphere that is the text book definition of colonialism, facism and racism.

The hypocrisy of him calling others racist is laughable.


Indeed max.

In Australia, there was a BLM protest with 40,000 protesters in Melbourne.

Now Melbourne has a second wave of Chy-na Virus and is about to be isolated from the rest of the country.

The stupid Democrat Premier they have over there, tried to blame families for not practicing social distancing. So he restricted family gatherings to just 5. What a total arsehole he is.

And of course it had nothing to do with the BLM protests at all. Brush brush under the carpet! same old same old stupidity.

Our company is also about to cancel its routes to Melbourne for a bit because other states will close their borders to Victoria.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby erolz66 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:30 pm

Paphitis wrote:In Australia, there was a BLM protest with 40,000 protesters in Melbourne.


Yet more lies. 40,000 people registering support for the march with 18,000 saying they intend to attend is not 40,000 attending. Just as 1 million people registering to go to Trumps campaign rally in Tulsa was not 1 million attending. It was in fact under 6,200 that attended that rally.

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-w ... -c-1080336
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:37 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:In Australia, there was a BLM protest with 40,000 protesters in Melbourne.


Yet more lies. 40,000 people registering support for the march with 18,000 saying they intend to attend is not 40,000 attending. Just as 1 million people registering to go to Trumps campaign rally in Tulsa was not 1 million attending. It was in fact under 6,200 that attended that rally.

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-w ... -c-1080336


Oh I see!

Well then the Australian media lied not me. I got my numbers from the media but they are in a hurry to portray themselves as woke.

Now, if 40,000 registered in a city of 5.1 million people, then this BLM movement against our police doesn't enjoy widespread support.

Still, 18,000 people in the views of many goes a hell of a long way to explain the second wave of Chy-na Virus with Melbourne now our Chy-na Virus epicenter. Way to go Melbourne.

Anyway, I think Chy-na virus among Antifa fascists might slow them down a little and might be a good thing as long as they don't infect the police dogs.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby erolz66 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:46 pm

Paphitis wrote:Well then the Australian media lied not me. I got my numbers from the media but they are in a hurry to portray themselves as woke.


No your inability to understanding what is written is the only problem here. A persistent one with no apparent solution to be sure but one that is entirely YOURS and yours alone. Show me ONE media reports that claims that 40,000 BLM protesters attended that rally. You will not because no such reports exist. You just imagine them in your head. The number 40,000 is in the media and you inability to understand what that numbered referred to in your rush to believe what you want to believe is YOUR problem and nothing new. You have a history here of quoting an article and then claiming that it says the opposite of what it actually says in the very post you quote it in. You can no legislate for that degree of stupidity Paphitis.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Maximus » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:04 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:Dont waste your time qualifying yourself to him Paphitis,

His facist and racist views on the Cyprus issue are well know,

His mentality comes from a political sphere that is the text book definition of colonialism, facism and racism.

The hypocrisy of him calling others racist is laughable.


Indeed max.

In Australia, there was a BLM protest with 40,000 protesters in Melbourne.

Now Melbourne has a second wave of Chy-na Virus and is about to be isolated from the rest of the country.

The stupid Democrat Premier they have over there, tried to blame families for not practicing social distancing. So he restricted family gatherings to just 5. What a total arsehole he is.

And of course it had nothing to do with the BLM protests at all. Brush brush under the carpet! same old same old stupidity.

Our company is also about to cancel its routes to Melbourne for a bit because other states will close their borders to Victoria.


The number of corona virus cases has noticed an uptick in the US as well. Of course, this is because of the protests.

But just to put things in to perspective.

There were 8,000 black on black homicides in the US last year, but only 10 because of a police shooting. And from those 10, all of them were because the the police officer had to defend themselves.

BLM are the biggest hypocrites going. They dont show their outrage when a brother is killing another brother. But if a cop kills a brother they lose the plot.

You hit the nail on head in another thread, the left have turned protesting and grievance looking and harassing the other as a recreational past time for many years now. but these sheeple are just tools for the democrats to get elected.

However, their strategy will do the exact opposite. They will lose again big time and spend the next 4 years whinging and complaining because they cant accept it.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby erolz66 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:17 pm

Maximus wrote:The number of corona virus cases has noticed an uptick in the US as well. Of course, this is because of the protests.


Of course the protests have played some part but the US was showing upticks from before the video of yet another white policeman murdering a black suspect in broad daylight whilst his fellow officers aided or watched non led to mass protests against this kind of police brutality. They were going up because states were removing previous restrictions, with Trump's encouragement and support. Still no need to worry , Trump has asked his people to test less so its all good and the numbers will come down. Of course that will not stop people dying but hey you can not have everything.

Maximus wrote:There were 8,000 black on black homicides in the US last year, but only 10 because of a police shooting. And from those 10, all of them were because the the police officer had to defend themselves.


Are you saying only 10 black suspects where shot dead by black police in 2019 or by police of any colour ? If you are saying the latter then again I do not know where you are getting your stats from ?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/

235 black people shot dead by police in 2019. 158 hispanic people vs 370 white people. According to these figures which of course do not included people choked to death by Police in broad daylight or other means of killing people.

So can not saee where you '10' figure has come from max ? Here are some more stats for you

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/01/george- ... harts.html

Maximus wrote:They will lose again big time and spend the next 4 years whinging and complaining because they cant accept it.


We will see but I would not be putting my money where your and Paphitis' mouth is on this one. Even at 2.5 odds of Trump winning (Biden at 1.74). Presumably given your expressed certainty here, you will be placing some considerable sums ?
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Re: ...this is America.

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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Maximus » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:39 pm

thanks for those stats Erolz,

I heard the figure of ten from William Barr in an interview since these protests kicked off..

But I can accept the numbers in your links.

it is also important to note that death by police is on a consistent downtrend. Under Trump as well , which Kind of ruins the argument about police brutality doesnt it....?

Why do you think the Dems will win?
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:59 am

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Well then the Australian media lied not me. I got my numbers from the media but they are in a hurry to portray themselves as woke.


No your inability to understanding what is written is the only problem here. A persistent one with no apparent solution to be sure but one that is entirely YOURS and yours alone. Show me ONE media reports that claims that 40,000 BLM protesters attended that rally. You will not because no such reports exist. You just imagine them in your head. The number 40,000 is in the media and you inability to understand what that numbered referred to in your rush to believe what you want to believe is YOUR problem and nothing new. You have a history here of quoting an article and then claiming that it says the opposite of what it actually says in the very post you quote it in. You can no legislate for that degree of stupidity Paphitis.


I live in Australia, and was in Melbourne just last week.

The media here are just as much full of shit as they are in the US and in Europe. They have so much bias, people don't know what is credible anymore.

For instance, Trump releases the Police Reform Executive Orders. I have read them but I had to search for them as none of the mainstream media were willing publishers of anything that makes Trump look proactive.

I'm not getting into an argument over semantics. the point was being made that the idiot Democrat bozo over in Melbourne, caused a Chy-na Virus spike and is forcing the segregation of families, and yet big business can stay open (I support that) and the idiot said nothing about the BLM protests. May they all get Chy-na Virus.
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