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[repulsewarrior]

...what do you think?

@Kiks; today two cops smiled at me as they drove by at the corner, it made me recall that i don't remember, the last time a police person who forced a polite smile. I wonder what would have happened if i had stepped off the curb, instead of waiting for the light: made my blood boil, being that honest (respectful), how many times in my life, their bad behaviour included the threat of force. So what, it took George Floyd, for me to get a simple recognition, that i have grown not to expect, and what am i supposed to do with that, i still fear them, in a fraction of a second i know those two cops will turn on me if they choose to, and for whatever reason.

...values, and balance; the difference between "CHAZ" and "CHOP" you can say: so too the Right Wing if it does not regroup to define its extremes.

What is Law and Order? Ask what is to Protect and Serve. I ask, do these Officers know everyone on this street, that should be there, because they live behind its doors? Would they notice a member of that community is missing, whether it is from sickness, or another tragedy? This too is Police work, and i will add far more important, that a community may recognise individual officers that they may turn to, rather than having the Police ignore this mission, in the pursuit of Crime.

[MR-from-NG]

One more thing MR. The nurse you were referring to was working 12 hour days to save lives like my brother at the risk of her dying for the fraction of the money and benefits these police officers get, often she stayed away from her family not to put them in danger, to find she couldn‘t buy supplies for her family because many greedy cunts bought essentials more than they would need for the next 6 months. Unlike this cry baby over her McBreakfast who each day ruin people’s days, bank accounts and lives. I didn‘t see her crying for the victims when her brothers in blue killed a man in handcuffs with his knee and the other shooting a man in the back. Where is her remorse for these murdered victims or is her breakfast has more value than human lives. Yes lady, you are hated for all the shit you and your partners in crime commit each day. How does it feel not to be trusted?

Absolutely Kiks. No mention of Floyd, Brooks or the demonstrations. The country was more or else set alight and all she can think of is her fucking McBreakfast. 2-3 minutes of me,me,me. You selfish bitch.

[erolz66]

[Kikapu]

I bet this cunt has dozens of complaints against him, and yet his department allows it to continue.

One bad apple hey?

Fuck no. The whole fucking police force by the orchard are all bad apples.

[Paphitis]

Maximus, Pahpitis,
I wanted to stay away from CF but I felt compelled to post about this. why aren't you listening to Kikapu? The man lived there for decades and travels there frequently. he is in a much better place to see the realities of the place. Anyone with any common sense and common decency are able to see the realities and the injustice that blacks are suffering. The cops you are defending are charged with murder and yet you are defending them.

You are both being very stubborn and bigots. having read all your posts I've come to the conclusion that you are no better, maybe even more racist than the cunt American cops we are discussing here.

Nothing to do with bigotry at all.

What I say stands for any person of any race or colour. It has nothing at all to do with the race or colour of the individual.

I actually have a lot of respect for Black Americans as most are very nice people, trying very hard to get ahead and as a community have made great inroads and contributed a great deal to their country. One of the reasons why I like the US and places like New York is the fact the place is literally buzzing and a melting pot and I as an individual have no issue at all with meeting new people and making new friends, and as a whole Black Americans are a great bunch of people.

people of all races break laws.

The issue being discussed is police brutality. It is a fact that I do not support the police officer who had his knee on Floyd's neck, costing his life. But at the same time, I do not see that the institution of law enforcement in America is systemically racist or would behave in the same manner.

As to Brooks. His shooting was excessive. However, I also believe that if anyone pointed a tazer at a police officer in Australia, chances are, they would also be shot.

[Paphitis]

This is a classic video where PI who is an ex cop gets pulled over in his car. A must see.

Those 3 coppers were actually really nice Kikapu.

very polite and they didn't get heavy. I am trying to relate and compare them to Australian police.

Australian Police would not have been so nice. If you do the above to Aussie police, they would screw you like you never been screwed before. They would in all likelihood be arrogant.

Even if you knew your rights and didn't put a foot wrong, they would get you out of the car and say we pulled you over because we spotted a few things wrong with your car and we want to inspect it. They will find something and defect your car.

You are then only able to drive your car home, and then from home to a licensed mechanic to fix the problems on the yellow sticker they fix on your rego. Then you have to take it to an approved inspection point, where police will inspect your vehicle again. It will cost you a couple of hundred dollars, for the inspection and then they will find something else because they black marked you and they will be arseholes. So back to the mechanic to get that fixed and then back for another police inspection for another couple of hundred dollars. they will have you go back and forth for as many times as they can possibly do, just to bust your chops and fleece you.

Eventually you will pass after several hundred dollars.

personally, I would prefer cops like those in that video who really kept it together. Australian coppers will really screw you over. Can't really complain with those coppers really.

The only reason these 3 cops were “nice” it’s because they were being video and the driver knew his rights under the constitution, which these three cops tried over and over to violate it for almost 30 minutes without success. You see Paphitis, the law keeps the cops in check, as well as the citizens. If the citizens do not know their rights, the more the cops become cunts. I don’t know what laws you have in Australia, but the US constitution is the foundation of everyone’s rights, and if broken, there are recourses to punish those who break them, no matter how small or large. From monetary compensation to prison terms. I hope you take note of all this if and when you make the USA your home one day for yourself and for your family.

I don't know about that Kikapu.

These days we all have cameras and video, and we even have these dash cams now. But my encounter was on video, and that police officer was a lot more arrogant than these 3 police officers were.

I actually think these 3 officers were really good and perhaps Aussie police should be taking some notes.

the older police officer of the 3 was especially cool.

The driver was not arrogant at all. He was pissed off for being illegally detained without probable cause, and since he knew his right, he immediately put a “checked- mate” move on all those cops. The cops tried their dirty plays in trying to get him to first give his full name which he never did as he is not required to if no crime was committed and secondly they tried for him to incriminate himself so that they could have enough information to arrest him so to obtain his name.

Most states, if not all are not a “STOP & ID” state like Nazi Germany used to be, therefore ID is not required to be shown unless one commits a crime or is about to commit a crime or has been lawfully stopped for traffic violation.

Yes, your Aussie cops should take lessons in how not to violate citizens rights by illegally detaining them and in trying to have them incriminate themselves because the police has nothing on him.

Thank god we have the constitution that gives us the rights to refuse the police when they make illegal and unlawful demands just because they have a gun and a badge and that they belong to a criminal gang units.

Yes he was arrogant, and a bit of a smart arse. There are many ways to "know your rights" and you can do it with style.

The winners in my view in that video were the police who handled it correctly and with some class to boot.

However, try to pull that off in Australia, and you will get screwed in a different way. And the cops will use the law in their favour to give you a nice yellow sticker or something and in the end you would be headbutting the wall.

And it is not true that you only have to pull out ID for the above. If they suspect you of a crime or suspect that you are about to commit a crime, they can also ask for ID. If they pressed the guy, they could have easily said he is suspected for stalking the complainant, and asked for ID. They chose not to do that, because they didn't want the hassle.

When they ask for ID, you only need give it, provide name, address and age. You don't have to answer any of their questions.

[Paphitis]

Maximus, Pahpitis,
I wanted to stay away from CF but I felt compelled to post about this. why aren't you listening to Kikapu? The man lived there for decades and travels there frequently. he is in a much better place to see the realities of the place. Anyone with any common sense and common decency are able to see the realities and the injustice that blacks are suffering. The cops you are defending are charged with murder and yet you are defending them.

You are both being very stubborn and bigots. having read all your posts I've come to the conclusion that you are no better, maybe even more racist than the cunt American cops we are discussing here.

There are many Americans that think like Paphitis and I. Many of them are black people too.

I am listening to Kiks but I am entitled to my own opinion.

I wont even entertain the rest of your comment. Its the argument of someone that doesnt have one.

Of course there are. How would Trump be in the Whitehouse without these lowlifes? In both cases department of justice has pressed charges and the culprits are standing trial for murder and you, in your infinite wisdom are defending them. Just like you I am allowed to have my opinion on the subject and I'm convinced you and Pahpitis are racist.

@Kikapu. I agree with every single word you've posted on this subject. Bags and bags of respect my friend.

That would make you very mistaken to consider me a racist!

In addition, labels like racist have lost their meaning because of people like you.

[MR-from-NG]

Maximus, Pahpitis,
I wanted to stay away from CF but I felt compelled to post about this. why aren't you listening to Kikapu? The man lived there for decades and travels there frequently. he is in a much better place to see the realities of the place. Anyone with any common sense and common decency are able to see the realities and the injustice that blacks are suffering. The cops you are defending are charged with murder and yet you are defending them.

You are both being very stubborn and bigots. having read all your posts I've come to the conclusion that you are no better, maybe even more racist than the cunt American cops we are discussing here.

Nothing to do with bigotry at all.

What I say stands for any person of any race or colour. It has nothing at all to do with the race or colour of the individual.

I actually have a lot of respect for Black Americans as most are very nice people, trying very hard to get ahead and as a community have made great inroads and contributed a great deal to their country. One of the reasons why I like the US and places like New York is the fact the place is literally buzzing and a melting pot and I as an individual have an issue at all with meeting new people and making new friends, and as a whole Black Americans are a great bunch of people.

people of all races break laws.

The issue being discussed is police brutality. It is a fact that I do not support the police officer who had his knee on Floyd's neck, costing his life. But at the same time, I do not see that the institution of law enforcement in America is systemically racist or would behave in the same manner.

As to Brooks. His shooting was excessive. However, I also believe that if anyone pointed a tazer at a police officer in Australia, chances are, they would also be shot.

I wouldn't expect anything else from the fascist cunts

[Paphitis]

Yes Erol, police cunts are everywhere.

Always video the police when interacting with them or when they harass citizens.

Police are no different than any other criminal gangs on the streets.

The sad part is, citizens pay their salaries to act like cunts towards them.

Pay their salaries AND invest them with extraordinary legal powers no ordinary citizen has. Which begs the question why then do they systematically and routinely seek to exceed the legal powers they DO have to the point they get upset and frustrated when they do not get automatic compliance ? To what end ? For what purpose ? To what degree to 'protect and serve' us their paymasters or to 'lord' over us ?

Often we hear that it is only the few “bad apples” in the police force that are the problem whereas 99% are doing their jobs professionally. That is a lot of bull crap. All of the videos which emerges where the “bad apple” is being a cunt against the citizen, all the so called 99% professionals who are there also do not stop the “bad apple” when he/she is being a cunt. The conclusions drawn from everything we see is, that 99% are the “bad apples” and 1% are the professionals. This is the image the police give, so it is not the citizens fault if we believe that the police force is a criminal gang force and that they are hated by the public whenever one of then act like a cunt while the rest of them do not intervene, which then they all become cunts for not honoring their oath.

That's because all the "bad apples" get caught in a situation, such as was the case with Brooks.

When you point a tazer at a police officer anywhere, then you are risking your life because there is always a good chance they can assume it's a gun, and in the heat of the moment, they're dead. Doesn't matter what country you are in, police can shoot you if they think their life is in danger. They have every right to sue their guns for their safety.

In a country like America, there was no way in knowing for sure whether Brooks had a concealed weapon.

[Paphitis]

Maximus, Pahpitis,
I wanted to stay away from CF but I felt compelled to post about this. why aren't you listening to Kikapu? The man lived there for decades and travels there frequently. he is in a much better place to see the realities of the place. Anyone with any common sense and common decency are able to see the realities and the injustice that blacks are suffering. The cops you are defending are charged with murder and yet you are defending them.

You are both being very stubborn and bigots. having read all your posts I've come to the conclusion that you are no better, maybe even more racist than the cunt American cops we are discussing here.

Nothing to do with bigotry at all.

What I say stands for any person of any race or colour. It has nothing at all to do with the race or colour of the individual.

I actually have a lot of respect for Black Americans as most are very nice people, trying very hard to get ahead and as a community have made great inroads and contributed a great deal to their country. One of the reasons why I like the US and places like New York is the fact the place is literally buzzing and a melting pot and I as an individual have an issue at all with meeting new people and making new friends, and as a whole Black Americans are a great bunch of people.

people of all races break laws.

The issue being discussed is police brutality. It is a fact that I do not support the police officer who had his knee on Floyd's neck, costing his life. But at the same time, I do not see that the institution of law enforcement in America is systemically racist or would behave in the same manner.

As to Brooks. His shooting was excessive. However, I also believe that if anyone pointed a tazer at a police officer in Australia, chances are, they would also be shot.

I wouldn't expect anything else from the fascist cunts

Really? How would you like to be in the police's shoes with this gun looking device being pointed at you?

Then place yourself in America, and let's see if you can afford to be so flippant.

More whites get shot in America than Blacks. It doesn't take much. If they think you are carrying, then it's a very fine line over there between life and death.

The homicide rate in the US is 5 murders per million. In comparison to Australia, it is 1 homicide per million. Cyprus is 0.8 homicides per million.

Why so high in America? Well it's their gun culture. This pervades into the police force and you can tell US cops are a lot more paranoid than anywhere else.