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[Maximus]

The black on black homicide rate in the US is twice as much as the white on black homicide rate.

A black man is much, much more likely to be killed by another black man than he is by the police.

The stats are consistent in the UK.

Those parties that accuse trump of destroying America are the ones literally destroying America.

Ill just leave this here for you to think about.

Max, it would help if you told us how we got here.

What are the root causes for the results of your above statement?

Let me help you out a little to get you started.

How about combination of 500 years of slavery, racism, prejudices, discrimination, lack of work opportunity, housing projects, poor schooling, denied justices.......!

I think a better question would be, where is all this going? Because police brutality is not the problem in the grand scheme of things.

So you are trying to tell me, slavery (and the rest of it) which was abolished hundreds of years ago and police brutality are responsible for the black on black homicide rate being double what the white on black homicide rate is today?

A black person is much, much more likely to be killed by another black person than he is by the police.

America's problems are just starting, and they wont end with police reform or defunding them.

Max, you may have your own questions and we can get to them later, but for know, please explain to us how we have gotten to where we are today for all the problems you have raised in your above statement.

In order to move forward, we need to understand the past, which sounds as if you are not interested.

All this shit did not just happen overnight.

So, I will await for your response as to the causes of the problems you have stated, mainly about the black people and their place in today's society.

Please read my statements again,

These statements have nothing to do with slavery. So it wouldn't make sense to go back 300 years to find out why most black people are being killed by black people today.

The biggest indicator as to whether someone is going to resort to crime or be under educated or poor in America today is whether they were raised in a single parent house hold or whether both parents stayed together. This is my take on the main cause of the homicide problem in the black community today.

So going back to the days of slavery, police reform or defunding them is not going to solve any of their problems.

Why are most homicides in America black on black? Your answer please.

[Kikapu]

The black on black homicide rate in the US is twice as much as the white on black homicide rate.

A black man is much, much more likely to be killed by another black man than he is by the police.

The stats are consistent in the UK.

Those parties that accuse trump of destroying America are the ones literally destroying America.

Ill just leave this here for you to think about.

Max, it would help if you told us how we got here.

What are the root causes for the results of your above statement?

Let me help you out a little to get you started.

How about combination of 500 years of slavery, racism, prejudices, discrimination, lack of work opportunity, housing projects, poor schooling, denied justices.......!

I think a better question would be, where is all this going? Because police brutality is not the problem in the grand scheme of things.

So you are trying to tell me, slavery (and the rest of it) which was abolished hundreds of years ago and police brutality are responsible for the black on black homicide rate being double what the white on black homicide rate is today?

A black person is much, much more likely to be killed by another black person than he is by the police.

America's problems are just starting, and they wont end with police reform or defunding them.

Max, you may have your own questions and we can get to them later, but for know, please explain to us how we have gotten to where we are today for all the problems you have raised in your above statement.

In order to move forward, we need to understand the past, which sounds as if you are not interested.

All this shit did not just happen overnight.

So, I will await for your response as to the causes of the problems you have stated, mainly about the black people and their place in today's society.

Please read my statements again,

These statements have nothing to do with slavery. So it wouldn't make sense to go back 300 years to find out why most black people are being killed by black people today.

The biggest indicator as to whether someone is going to resort to crime or be under educated or poor in America today is whether they were raised in a single parent house hold or whether both parents stayed together. This is my take on the main cause of the homicide problem in the black community today.

Why are most homicides in America black on black? Your answer please.

I'm sorry Max, by you dismissing slavery and everything since the end of slavery under the conditions in which the blacks had to live to present time, I don't think you really care or want to understand it at all. Past events played a major role.

Erol has already very eloquently addressed your black on black question as he also pointed out that white on white is also an issue. So what is your point is keep bringing it up?

[Kikapu]

Private citizen refuses to be illegally ID by a bully cop at Trump's rally.

[Maximus]

You are being dismissive Kiks,

I have answered your question and the reasons why but you are not even giving me the courtesy of providing me with an answer or understanding mine.

Even though you said you would get to them.

[Kikapu]

You are being dismissive Kiks,

I have answered your question and the reasons why but you are not even giving me the courtesy of providing me with an answer or understanding mine.

Even though you said you would get to them.

So your answer is that slavery and conditions blacks had to live under since the ending of slavery has no bearings on today how most blacks live in in the US.

I say you are very wrong.

Have you seen the conditions under which the Native Americans live on the reservations today when you were in the states last time?

I guess you think that has nothing to do with the treatments they received from the white man since the 16th century!

Ok Max, so your main talking point is why more blacks kill blacks than any other race killing blacks. Is that your question?

Crime is crime. Does it matter who the victims and the killers are?

You do know that poverty and crime does have direct correlation to each other, right?

How often does a middle class citizen kills another citizen for $50 dollars, or sell drugs in a dark alley where a shootout starts and people die, or shop lift for cheap goods from Kmart or Walmart or have a police record for many petty crimes?

Why does it matter who kills who instead of why these crimes are taking place in the first place within the black community since this is the only community you are interested in talking about when it comes to crime, and my answer is, you need to go back in time to get the answers, which you refuse to do.

[repulsewarrior]

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/19/poli ... 1:13:36%29

...history made today; the Trunp rally, biggest since the COVID outbreak. 20,000 people from across America will be in Tulsa, and then go home.

I am afraid that the US President will die from his own denial.

[erolz66]

You are being dismissive Kiks,

I have answered your question and the reasons why but you are not even giving me the courtesy of providing me with an answer or understanding mine.

Even though you said you would get to them.

Max for well over 350 years it was necessary for Britain and the US to construct a narrative that Black people were lesser then white people. Less intelligent, less moral, less godly, more lazy and the like. It was necessary to construct this narrative, maintain it and embed it in to the structures and institutions of the US and British state and society to justify slavery and colonialism. This 350 year plus project can be said to have lasted up till the mid 1960's. 350 plus years building a consistent racist narrative and embedding it in to the very fabric and institutions of the nation. 55 years of 'laws' to prohibit discrimination.

So today we see evidence of people still being disadvantaged , still being treated differently and negatively because of their skin colour. Yes there has been progress. Yes there are now laws but laws are not an indication a problem has now been solved and is over. They are an indication that the problem still exists. There are laws against knife crime in the UK but knife crime still exists. There are laws that prohibit women being paid less for doing the same work as men yet women still get paid less than men for the same work. What would indicate the problem is solved is not the existence of laws but their absence because they are no longer needed. The idea that all the problems that come from the creation and maintenance of a 350 year plus constructed and embedded racist narrative all just disappeared instantly in 1965 makes no logical sense. Then you see the reality today. How you can say and believe that the issues that are still ongoing today are not connected to that 350 year constructed narrative is beyond my comprehension. Seriously look at the video in my thread here cyprus47427.html if you can. We KNOW that if you place children in an environment of discrimination based on arbitrary physical characteristic, then within the space of just 24 hours it has a significant detriment on their education performance. 24 hours. Image what a lifetime does ? The idea that there is not a connection with the problems we see today in the US and the UK and the 350 year histories of how these nations were built on and around the need to construct a racist narrative of 'black people are lesser than white' over a period of more than 350 years is as I see it patent nonsense and pure denial. We need change. We need change in out comes. We need more change that has been achieved between 1960 and today. Saying the problem of racism and the construction and maintenance of a needed state racist narrative over 350 years ended by 1965 will not cut the mustard. It is just denial. If we do not achieve real change in outcomes the US will continue to burn periodically, as it has done consistently since the 1960s. Even increasing state oppression of disaffected masses of civilians and potential race war will remain constant threats. Unless we find a way of secure real change in outcomes. Denying the role slavery and colonialism played in getting us to where we are today and how the vast majority of wealth and power accrued in both the UK and US were directly related to slavery and colonialism will not help achieve the change we must achieve.

[repulsewarrior]

...for Paphitis.

[erolz66]

And yet another new twist re Floyd George case and corrupt policing targetting black americans https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 77131.html

[Kikapu]

...for Paphitis.

Trump is not only a cunt, but a racist cunt.