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[Get Real!]

I just reread what I wrote… what a beautiful poem!

I think I’ll call it… “Cauldron of trash”

[Kikapu]

@Kikapu. I agree with every single word you've posted on this subject. Bags and bags of respect my friend.

Thanks for nothing

Erol, how rude of me. Having looked at all the posts carefully you get tons and tons of respect too.

GR, how lovely to have you back. The forum is not the same without you. In fact this Pahpitis dude is ruining it and if anybody can put him in his place it is you. Take care my friend.

MR, welcome back. It is always good to have another point of view.
Hope you stick around for awhile.

[erolz66]

BBC interviewed Spike Lee at the very beginning of the George Floyd protests. He described the USA beautifully. I'm sure it can be seen on BBC iplayer. I'm useless with computers otherwise I would've found it and put a link for you all to see. definitely worth watching. Welcome back GR

I think this is probably it ?

[erolz66]

This one is from the UK



https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/p ... 73276.html

The police did 'apologise' after this incident made it into the national press but after more than two months it is only just been announced that the officer involved is 'under investigation'. In all probability they officer will get a 'reprimand' in another 6 months time when the 'investigation' finally concludes. And that is for a case that made the national headlines, for everyone that does there are 10 more that also have been videoed but only make it to YouTube channels like 'crimebodge' and 100s more that are not recorded at all. This stuff and worse happens when Police get use to the public just automatically conceding to any request they make 98% of the time and regardless of if there is any legal requirement to comply. Which is why if you want this kind of shit to happen less, if you want better police and better policing and if you want to able to support good police and good policing you have imo a civic duty to NOT just automatically comply with any request made of you by a police officer without any regard to if you are obliged under the law to do so or not. This is what happens when a police officer used to getting his own way regardless of legality 99% finds himself in a situation where he feels he is not getting the due deference owed to him. It stinks imo. The investigation should have been immediate and should have taken no more than two week and as a minimum the officer should have lost his job and should be potentially facing criminal charges. This will not happen which is why these kinds of problems will continue day after day, week after week and year after year.

Oh and on this whole thing of Police systematically trying to entrap people by exploiting the general public's ignorance of their rights or unwillingness to exert them is just plain stupid if your concern is real crime. The people such tactics never work on, by definition, is REAL criminals who do know their rights by professional necessity and how to exert them in every situation. It only works on people that are essentially ordinary members of the public that may have made some minor infraction or can be easily fitted up for one. Which is why it wastes so much time that could and should be being used trying to stop and catch real criminals and not criminalising any member of the public they can get away with.

[Kikapu]

Yes Erol, police cunts are everywhere.

Always video the police when interacting with them or when they harass citizens.

Police are no different than any other criminal gangs on the streets.

The sad part is, citizens pay their salaries to act like cunts towards them.

[erolz66]

Yes Erol, police cunts are everywhere.

Always video the police when interacting with them or when they harass citizens.

Police are no different than any other criminal gangs on the streets.

The sad part is, citizens pay their salaries to act like cunts towards them.

Pay their salaries AND invest them with extraordinary legal powers no ordinary citizen has. Which begs the question why then do they systematically and routinely seek to exceed the legal powers they DO have to the point they get upset and frustrated when they do not get automatic compliance ? To what end ? For what purpose ? To what degree to 'protect and serve' us their paymasters or to 'lord' over us ?

[Kikapu]

Yes Erol, police cunts are everywhere.

Always video the police when interacting with them or when they harass citizens.

Police are no different than any other criminal gangs on the streets.

The sad part is, citizens pay their salaries to act like cunts towards them.

Pay their salaries AND invest them with extraordinary legal powers no ordinary citizen has. Which begs the question why then do they systematically and routinely seek to exceed the legal powers they DO have to the point they get upset and frustrated when they do not get automatic compliance ? To what end ? For what purpose ? To what degree to 'protect and serve' us their paymasters or to 'lord' over us ?

Often we hear that it is only the few “bad apples” in the police force that are the problem whereas 99% are doing their jobs professionally. That is a lot of bull crap. All of the videos which emerges where the “bad apple” is being a cunt against the citizen, all the so called 99% professionals who are there also do not stop the “bad apple” when he/she is being a cunt. The conclusions drawn from everything we see is, that 99% are the “bad apples” and 1% are the professionals. This is the image the police give, so it is not the citizens fault if we believe that the police force is a criminal gang force and that they are hated by the public whenever one of then act like a cunt while the rest of them do not intervene, which then they all become cunts for not honoring their oath.

[Maximus]

The black on black homicide rate in the US is twice as much as the white on black homicide rate.

A black man is much, much more likely to be killed by another black man than he is by the police.

The stats are consistent in the UK.

Those parties that accuse trump of destroying America are the ones literally destroying America.

Ill just leave this here for you to think about.

[Kikapu]

Yes Erol, police cunts are everywhere.

Always video the police when interacting with them or when they harass citizens.

Police are no different than any other criminal gangs on the streets.

The sad part is, citizens pay their salaries to act like cunts towards them.

Pay their salaries AND invest them with extraordinary legal powers no ordinary citizen has. Which begs the question why then do they systematically and routinely seek to exceed the legal powers they DO have to the point they get upset and frustrated when they do not get automatic compliance ? To what end ? For what purpose ? To what degree to 'protect and serve' us their paymasters or to 'lord' over us ?

Often we hear that it is only the few “bad apples” in the police force that are the problem whereas 99% are doing their jobs professionally. That is a lot of bull crap. All of the videos which emerges where the “bad apple” is being a cunt against the citizen, all the so called 99% professionals who are there also do not stop the “bad apple” when he/she is being a cunt. The conclusions drawn from everything we see is, that 99% are the “bad apples” and 1% are the professionals. This is the image the police give, so it is not the citizens fault if we believe that the police force is a criminal gang force and that they are hated by the public whenever one of then act like a cunt while the rest of them do not intervene, which then they all become cunts for not honoring their oath.

[erolz66]

The black on black homicide rate in the US is twice as much as the white on black homicide rate.

A black man is much, much more likely to be killed by another black man than he is by the police.

The stats are consistent in the UK.

The stats you give are real but miss the point entirely imo

I think you will find that homicide rates of any ethnic group are majority committed by that ethnic group more than other ethnic groups. White people are more likely to be killed by white people, asian by asian etc etc. I think it is also true that a white person (or asian or or) is more likely to be killed by another white person (who is not police) than by police.

The key thing you seem to be missing in my opinion max is that there is a major and material difference in someone being killed by a criminal and someone being killed by a paid public servant who's job is to protect and server the public. That less people are killed by paid public servants who's job is to protect and serve than by criminals and that criminality tends to be predominantly within ethnic group, white Italian criminals tend to kill other white Italian criminals etc, in no way means we should therefore not worry about Police killing people. Then when you add it that when Police do kill people where really there is no justification of need for them to have done so it is disproportionately white Police killing black people, well then you end up with an explosive situation that leads to cities burning. This need to be dealt with or the cycle will just keep on repeating itself over and over again as had been seen. I am bemused why you can not see this ?