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[Paphitis]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/17/michael-park-voice-of-america-327713

...still on topic, this is Trump's "America", too.

The America which is getting shit done. No one can deny that other than the media which has denied everything from day 1 and was out to get him. Why?

because he rustles the feathers of important people who are losing control.

[Paphitis]

You have the right to remain silent and that is a sign, in the moment, of non co-operation but it doesn't automatically prove guilt for anything.

If they suspect you of doing something, or committing a crime they can still question you in the presence of a lawyer.

So that is not some kind of get out clause for everything.

Absolutely! they are allowed to arrest and question you on suspicion of an offence.

They can remain silent. What this guy did was resist arrest, and also assaulted a police officer. he got tazed.

I see nothing wrong with any of that.

The only thing I see wrong in that video is that the assaulted police officer mocked him and used foul language. Clearly he was angry but that was still unnecessary and uncalled for as well as unprofessional.

You guys still don’t get it.

Brooks did not commit any crime at the time the police came to his car.

Sleeping in his car on private property is not a crime.

Had Brooks kept his mouth shut and didn’t talk to the cops, there was nothing the cops could have done other than lie through their teeth that they could arrest him. Brooks didn’t even have to give his ID as it was not a traffic related contact. There was no crime committed.

Now, the police could have unlawfully arrested him for some bullshit reason, and Brooks would have not only sued the city for unlawful arrest but also the unlawful arresting officer personally as his qualified immunity no longer applied when the officer makes an illegal act.

We get it Kiks,

The police get it too and I hear that many more of them walked out of the job today.

I hope you realize though that this is just a "clever" play to try to absolve someone that was at fault every step of the way.

Max, it is time to clean the swamp of all these bad cops. If those who resigned think it is ok to murder suspects by shooting them in the back, then good riddance to bad rubbish. More place opens up for good cops.

No Kikapu.

99% of cops are good people. I don't see a systemic problem.

I see a problem with the elites and the seedy underworld responsible for our isolation and the murder of Epstein.

All of you have been side swiped so you are all distracted from the main game.

Meanwhile, George Soros is in his 20 million dollar mansion.

You are all deluded and brainwashed to think Trump is the bad guy too. But he is Mother Teresa compared to who are really the puppeteers and bad people in this world.

With Epstein, we had a golden opportunity to clean the swamp, but then he conveniently committed suicide.

[repulsewarrior]

...talking of the swamp, that started with Flynn,

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... y%20Turkey

...Bolton talks of more than China; Turkey too plays a role, in it.

[Kikapu]

...talking of the swamp, that started with Flynn,

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... y%20Turkey

...Bolton talks of more than China; Turkey too plays a role, in it.

Trumps actions are all criminal to please human rights violator friends like Erdogan, Putin, Xi Jinping and wherever else Trump has business interests. Trump needs to go in November. I am glad Bolton is exposing this fake American patriot. American people are one of the most gullible people there are, but those supporting Trump has reached new heights of stupidity.

[Kikapu]

It turns out Brooks was on parole which explains his cooperation with the police and his ill advised resisting arrest and trying to run away. No doubt the cops checking his background were aware, that Brooks having any interaction with the police regardless weather he is guilty or not would violate his parole condition and would end up in jail again for a long time. His life depended on the goodwill of these two cops to give him a break, but instead, they would rather ruin the man’s life for being over the limit by 0.2, from legal alcohol level at 0.8 to his level at 1.0.

So what are we talking here to get to 1.0 from 0.8, a half a glass of wine or another half pint of beer? Not exactly a heavy drinker. How many of us been behind the wheel close to that limit , give a take couple of decimal points. Brooks thought mistakenly that these two cops would show some compassion and cut him a little break on getting his life together rather than arrest him to send him back to jail. How many times cops give breaks to their fellow officers getting stop for various violations including drunk driving as a professional curtesy, but not for this black guy who has a prison record, then people wonder why there are so many broken homes in the poor black communities and prisons full of people.

Brooks for that instant moment of seeing himself going back to jail as he is about to be handcuffed panicked and made a run for it after wrestling with the two cops. In the end it would have resulted the same ending for him, be killed now or long jail sentence, so having nothing to lose, he chose to make a run for it. Had he got away, he would have been caught soon after, maybe even turn himself in to the police, but his penalty would have been so severe, he would have been prisoned for a very long time. But the cop who murdered him most probably did Brooks a favour from saving him from going to prison and put the spot light on bad cops who murder suspects because they think they still can, even soon after all the turmoil caused by the murder of Floyd.

This is the arrogance which has made bad cops become worse cunts than ordinary cunts. So instead of Brooks serving long prison sentence, let’s hope it will be his murderer who will end up serving long prison sentence instead and help shape up the police departments across the country. At least that is the hope. We have a saying in Turkish which I will paraphrase, that “you can put a pigs tail in a vise grip to make it straight for 40 years then release it, it would still be curled”. Bad habits are hard to let go!

[MR-from-NG]

Maximus, Pahpitis,
I wanted to stay away from CF but I felt compelled to post about this. why aren't you listening to Kikapu? The man lived there for decades and travels there frequently. he is in a much better place to see the realities of the place. Anyone with any common sense and common decency are able to see the realities and the injustice that blacks are suffering. The cops you are defending are charged with murder and yet you are defending them.

You are both being very stubborn and bigots. having read all your posts I've come to the conclusion that you are no better, maybe even more racist than the cunt American cops we are discussing here.

[Kikapu]

This is a classic video where PI who is an ex cop gets pulled over in his car. A must see.

Those 3 coppers were actually really nice Kikapu.

very polite and they didn't get heavy. I am trying to relate and compare them to Australian police.

Australian Police would not have been so nice. If you do the above to Aussie police, they would screw you like you never been screwed before. They would in all likelihood be arrogant.

Even if you knew your rights and didn't put a foot wrong, they would get you out of the car and say we pulled you over because we spotted a few things wrong with your car and we want to inspect it. They will find something and defect your car.

You are then only able to drive your car home, and then from home to a licensed mechanic to fix the problems on the yellow sticker they fix on your rego. Then you have to take it to an approved inspection point, where police will inspect your vehicle again. It will cost you a couple of hundred dollars, for the inspection and then they will find something else because they black marked you and they will be arseholes. So back to the mechanic to get that fixed and then back for another police inspection for another couple of hundred dollars. they will have you go back and forth for as many times as they can possibly do, just to bust your chops and fleece you.

Eventually you will pass after several hundred dollars.

personally, I would prefer cops like those in that video who really kept it together. Australian coppers will really screw you over. Can't really complain with those coppers really.

The only reason these 3 cops were “nice” it’s because they were being video and the driver knew his rights under the constitution, which these three cops tried over and over to violate it for almost 30 minutes without success. You see Paphitis, the law keeps the cops in check, as well as the citizens. If the citizens do not know their rights, the more the cops become cunts. I don’t know what laws you have in Australia, but the US constitution is the foundation of everyone’s rights, and if broken, there are recourses to punish those who break them, no matter how small or large. From monetary compensation to prison terms. I hope you take note of all this if and when you make the USA your home one day for yourself and for your family.

I don't know about that Kikapu.

These days we all have cameras and video, and we even have these dash cams now. But my encounter was on video, and that police officer was a lot more arrogant than these 3 police officers were.

I actually think these 3 officers were really good and perhaps Aussie police should be taking some notes.

the older police officer of the 3 was especially cool.

The driver was not arrogant at all. He was pissed off for being illegally detained without probable cause, and since he knew his right, he immediately put a “checked- mate” move on all those cops. The cops tried their dirty plays in trying to get him to first give his full name which he never did as he is not required to if no crime was committed and secondly they tried for him to incriminate himself so that they could have enough information to arrest him so to obtain his name.

Most states, if not all are not a “STOP & ID” state like Nazi Germany used to be, therefore ID is not required to be shown unless one commits a crime or is about to commit a crime or has been lawfully stopped for traffic violation.

Yes, your Aussie cops should take lessons in how not to violate citizens rights by illegally detaining them and in trying to have them incriminate themselves because the police has nothing on him.

Thank god we have the constitution that gives us the rights to refuse the police when they make illegal and unlawful demands just because they have a gun and a badge and that they belong to a criminal gang units.

[Maximus]

Maximus, Pahpitis,
I wanted to stay away from CF but I felt compelled to post about this. why aren't you listening to Kikapu? The man lived there for decades and travels there frequently. he is in a much better place to see the realities of the place. Anyone with any common sense and common decency are able to see the realities and the injustice that blacks are suffering. The cops you are defending are charged with murder and yet you are defending them.

You are both being very stubborn and bigots. having read all your posts I've come to the conclusion that you are no better, maybe even more racist than the cunt American cops we are discussing here.

There are many Americans that think like Paphitis and I. Many of them are black people too.

I am listening to Kiks but I am entitled to my own opinion.

I wont even entertain the rest of your comment. Its the argument of someone that doesnt have one.

[Maximus]

Vacancies: Police officers Wanted.

Requirements,

You must be good
You must be willing to wash the feet of black lives matter.

Apply within.

Every job has it’s benefits and drawbacks. No one is forcing anyone to remain in their jobs. Law enforcement means enforcing the law. How does murdering suspects is enforcing the law? Cops have been given a large latitude in applying the law, even on questionably shootings where the benefit of doubt was always given to the cops and not made them to be accountable for their actions, but that was not enough and rather than being grateful, they have become more arrogant, more aggressive, more brutal, more cuntish.

Over the years the negative actions by the cops created disdain with the people which created a major disconnect, not only because of bad cops doing bad things, but good cops not turning them in, but instead turning a blind eye. It is no longer just few apples , but few bad orchards. Only the police can clean their own house along with their unions if they want the respect from the people who employ them and pay their salaries and benefits. They work for us and not for themselves and quite frankly, your above two posts shows contempt to us, the people whom the police officers work for. I hope I am misreading your post as to what it says between the lines.

I always believed that young new cops have good intentions in serving the people and do their job with honour and pride, but soon after they join, they become corrupted by their commanders and fellow officers, so the rot keeps expanding as it serves them well, so why change it. If it ain’t broken, don’t break it, so goes on the same old same old. Sorry my friend Max, but, if the cops do don’t start making changes from within and drain the swap of bad cops, hate for ALL cops will only get worse by the people.

This is what the police officers were doing. Until things took a turn for the worse.

The district attorney is now pressing charges against the police officers for murder.

But only a week ago, he was saying that a taser is classified as a deadly weapon according to state law.

So when you have someone assaulting a police officer, stealing a deadly weapon and using it against them, are police officers not allowed to use deadly force as well to defend themselves?

What does the law say?

[MR-from-NG]

Maximus, Pahpitis,
I wanted to stay away from CF but I felt compelled to post about this. why aren't you listening to Kikapu? The man lived there for decades and travels there frequently. he is in a much better place to see the realities of the place. Anyone with any common sense and common decency are able to see the realities and the injustice that blacks are suffering. The cops you are defending are charged with murder and yet you are defending them.

You are both being very stubborn and bigots. having read all your posts I've come to the conclusion that you are no better, maybe even more racist than the cunt American cops we are discussing here.

There are many Americans that think like Paphitis and I. Many of them are black people too.

I am listening to Kiks but I am entitled to my own opinion.

I wont even entertain the rest of your comment. Its the argument of someone that doesnt have one.

Of course there are. How would Trump be in the Whitehouse without these lowlifes? In both cases department of justice has pressed charges and the culprits are standing trial for murder and you, in your infinite wisdom are defending them. Just like you I am allowed to have my opinion on the subject and I'm convinced you and Pahpitis are racist.

@Kikapu. I agree with every single word you've posted on this subject. Bags and bags of respect my friend.