Paphitis wrote:And yeh, the protesters did get violent at 1833 as police were forming lines. The police did not move against protesters at this time.
“At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids,” the statement reads. “The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.”
This is what you are defending Paphtitis. I would call you defence of these actions as sickening but given that you previously tried defending multiple convicted child abusers because they had committed their crimes whilst working at elite Australian fee paying Schools that you support this is relatively mild in comparison.
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Paphitis wrote:And yeh, the protesters did get violent at 1833 as police were forming lines. The police did not move against protesters at this time.
“At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids,” the statement reads. “The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.”
From the Washington Post.
the exact source which gave a written timeline in the below link and which stipulated that violence erupted at 1833, the trigger for police to start moving protesters at 1835.
Paphitis wrote:And yeh, the protesters did get violent at 1833 as police were forming lines. The police did not move against protesters at this time.
“At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids,” the statement reads. “The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.”
From the Washington Post.
the exact source which gave a written timeline in the below link and which stipulated that violence erupted at 1833, the trigger for police to start moving protesters at 1835.
You are a lying piece of shit Paphitis. The Washington Post merely reports the CLAIMS of the US Park Services. Watch the detailed video made by the Washington Post and you will see how the evidence shows this claim from the US Park service is not supported by that evidence. That is what people who break the law do. They lie. And you aid and abet them. Watch what really happened with your own eyes and come back here and tell us how much you believe in people's right to peaceful protest.
Paphitis wrote:And yeh, the protesters did get violent at 1833 as police were forming lines. The police did not move against protesters at this time.
“At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids,” the statement reads. “The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.”
From the Washington Post.
the exact source which gave a written timeline in the below link and which stipulated that violence erupted at 1833, the trigger for police to start moving protesters at 1835.
You are a lying piece of shit Paphitis. The Washington Post merely reports the CLAIMS of the US Park Services. Watch the detailed video made by the Washington Post and you will see how the evidence shows this claim from the US Park service is not supported by that evidence. That is what people who break the law do. They lie. And you aid and abet them. Watch what really happened with your own eyes and come back here and tell us how much you believe in people's right to peaceful protest.
Me? Liying? I don't think so! I am saying it the way it is.
And, people around the world are sick of this anarchy and violence. By all means, demonstrate if you want to. We are free countries. Everyone has the right to protest. But only as long as the protestors do not destroy property, deface public monuments, or pose a danger to bystanders or themselves.
The US Constitution is very clear. So rather than destroy property and turn the streets into war zones to the detriment of the greater public, challenge the USG in the Federal courts. Antifa have plenty of money straight from George Soros so expensive legal action is open to them and their deep pockets. But no, that would be sensible wouldn't it and they would probably lose.
We have seen violent demonstrations all over the world. Why? well this can only be known to George Soros and his political agenda.
Time to declare him and his Antifa terrorist organisations. In the same group as ISIL.
Go on, get some expensive lawyers and start some legal action pussies!
Paphitis wrote:Me? Liying? I don't think so! I am saying it the way it is.
To claim or imply that the Washington Post reported that "At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids" is a LIE. They merely quoted the claims of the US Park Service. Those claims are shown in the detailed video compilation and timeline put together by the Washington Post to themselves be lies. As were the other lies put out by the criminal entities involved in this disgusting mass violation of peoples rights that were subsequently retracted and corrected in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Lies like tear gas was not used and USSS did not use pepper spray.
Paphitis wrote:And, people around the world are sick of this anarchy and violence. By all means, demonstrate if you want to. We are free countries. Everyone has the right to protest. But only as long as the protestors do not destroy property, deface public monuments, or pose a danger to bystanders or themselves.
I know it is futile to tell you to stop talking for other people. The only people posing a danger to others in this event were the Police and other para military forces. Just watch the video.
Paphitis wrote:Go on, get some expensive lawyers and start some legal action pussies!
The legal action has already been filed. Not that it will make any difference to you given that you previously defended convicted child sex abusers as merely being the subject of malicious gossip from disgruntled children.
Londonrake wrote:Actually, it’s illegal to demonstrate in the UK presently. Gatherings of more than 6 being outlawed during the pandemic.
Which begs the question.............
yes it begs the question that if the actions taken in Lafayette Square by Police and other para military forces against US citizens was to stop violation of social distancing guidelines then why has not a single person or government agency made such a statement in the two weeks since these events took place let alone at the time of the protest and with fair warning first given for people to stop such actions ?
is that the question being begged here Lonbonrake ?
Londonrake wrote:Actually, it’s illegal to demonstrate in the UK presently. Gatherings of more than 6 being outlawed during the pandemic.
Which begs the question.............
yes it begs the question that if the actions taken in Lafayette Square by Police and other para military forces against US citizens was to stop violation of social distancing guidelines then why has not a single person or government agency made such a statement in the two weeks since these events took place let alone at the time of the protest and with fair warning first given for people to stop such actions ?
is that the question being begged here Lonbonrake ?
I’d be too frightened.
But, rather than board up revered national monuments in London for their protection and turn a blind eye to the possible viral consequences wouldn’t it make more sense to simply apply the law? Or, would that be an infringement of rights/racist?
Londonrake wrote:Actually, it’s illegal to demonstrate in the UK presently. Gatherings of more than 6 being outlawed during the pandemic.
Which begs the question.............
yes it begs the question that if the actions taken in Lafayette Square by Police and other para military forces against US citizens was to stop violation of social distancing guidelines then why has not a single person or government agency made such a statement in the two weeks since these events took place let alone at the time of the protest and with fair warning first given for people to stop such actions ?
is that the question being begged here Lonbonrake ?
I’d be too frightened.
But, rather than board up revered national monuments in London for their protection and turn a blind eye to the possible viral consequences wouldn’t it make more sense to simply apply the law? Or, would that be an infringement of rights/racist?
Let's not confuse things here. To be clear I have been discussing with Paphitis a specific event that occurred in Washington DC on June 1st. Am happy to discuss other wider issues but let's not get the two confused.
Firstly sticking with the Washington DC event - just to give Paphtis an idea of what a protest where the protesters ARE being violent looks like, so he can compare it with the video of the protesters in Washington DC June 1st
As to your UK / London specific point Londonrake, why do you see the two things as being mutually exclusive ? I think those breaking the law should be arrested and prosecuted under due process. I also think authorities taking actions with the aim of trying to decrease tensions and the chances of civil disorder breaking out are also entirely sensible. Are you sure your problem with boarding up the statues is not more to do with that decision having come from a Labour Mayor ?
And while you are here Londonrake and given that you recently accused ME of never taking a firm position on any issue, do you think the Actions taken by police and other para military forces in Washington dc on 1st June against protesting citizens was proportionate to their 'violent behaviour' at that actual protest as seen on the Washington post video or do you think that the police action was disproportionate ?
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The question still stands, which is, if there was a curfew at 7pm, why did Trump and his clowns from the White House went to the church after 7pm and were not arrested by the criminal police gangs?
