erolz66 wrote:Paphitis wrote:erolz66 wrote:Paphitis wrote:erolz66 wrote:Paphitis wrote:I am happy with peaceful protest but because these protests have not been peaceful at all. the USG has declared a curfew.
You are full of shit Paphitis which is nothing new. Your position is nothing more than any legal peaceful constitutionally protected protest can be stopped by Police using violence because some previous protest have not been peaceful. That is not respecting the right to protest that is being contemptuous of it.
Yes they can, especially when they lead to violence, property loss, public graffiti and defacing of monuments and just being total dickheads by assaulting members of the public and police!
If they wanted to march peacefully and just make some noise and wave their banners and so on, no one in the US can do anything about that but that isn't what these demonstrations have done.
That is exactly what the demonstrators in Lafayette Park on June 1st were doing, peacefully waiving their banners and making some noise and Police and Nat Guard and USSS attacked them with tear gas and flash bangs to stop and disperse the protest. Not because there was anything illegal going on but because Trump needed the area cleared for his photo op.
This is now the subject of a law suit filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C. and which reads
This case concerns a day that will live in infamy. It’s the day that our federal executive branch unleashed a military and paramilitary force on a band of peaceful protesters assembled in historic Lafayette Park across from the White House. The officials, wielding batons, sprayed the crowd with tear gas, flash-bang grenades, smoke bombs, and rubber bullets, causing frightened protesters to flee, fearing for their lives and hobbled by their injuries. And what prompted this military attack on peaceful civilian targets? President Trump’s desire to walk through the park a few minutes later to stage a photo-op publicity stunt holding a bible as a political prop in front of a nearby church. It was a gross abuse of executive power that violated First Amendment free speech rights, Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable force, Fifth Amendment due process rights, and long-standing federal law prohibiting use of such military force on domestic targets. Yet since this horrific incident, the federal government fenced in this historic park. It only began reopening today. That must never happen again.
Even if the court rules that there were violations of people's constitutional rights you still will not accept this. You will still claim that you have no problem with peaceful protest whilst defending those that violate such rights in the most blatant and extreme ways. That is why you are full of shit.
And breaking the curfew where the protest would have definitely turned violent.
Still breaking the law.
You can say the protests were not violent, but these protests have turned a first world country like the US look more like a war zone in Palestine, Mogadishu, Kabul or Baghdad!
Sorry, but we are all fed up with it.
The Park was cleared BEFORE the curfew came in to effect. That is fact and you just continue to lie and claim it was after, which again shows how full of shit you are and the lengths you will go to. Those protest on THAT day in THAT place WERE peaceful and that is the entire point. The law was broken on that day and NOT by the protesters but by those who's job is to uphold and protect the law, which is what the protests are about. People ARE fed up with those who's job is to uphold the law breaking it with impunity. Seriously fed up. Fed up enough that they have come out on to the streets in their 100's of thousands in the midst of a pandemic. 100's of thousands of ordinary law abiding citizens. You can claim as ever to speak for the 'we' all you like but one look at the opinion polls related to this specific incident and you will see even large numbers of trump supporting republicans believe the authorities went too far in this case.
Your keyboard warrior 'fine words' posted here under anonymity mean
nothing Paphitis. You just show over and over the actual contempt you have for the Constitution you claim to respect.
Of course it was cleared just before curfew. What's the point of curfew if they don't clear the streets before curfew! Duh!
Police need to mop up all the mess afterwards as well, not to mention the fire brigades and other emergency services.
In the end, the protesters seem to be getting away with restrictions related to Chy-na Virus others would not get away with.
Police began to move into position at 1833. Curfew was 1900. So that is 27 minutes before Curfew began. police received instructions from the Secret Service because of Trump's scheduled appearance.
And yeh, the protesters did get violent at 1833 as police were forming lines. The police did not move against protesters at this time.
“At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids,” the statement reads. “The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.”
Police started moving protesters at 1835 after protesters were already getting violent.
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