Kikapu wrote:Paphitis wrote:Kikapu wrote:Oceanside50 wrote:
Now now kikapu.. “ killing 1000+ citizens per year”. Very bold statement and not accurate.. where’s your source?
Now now Ocean, did you know you are 10 times more likely to be killed by the criminal police gang in the USA than by a terrorist?
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Sorry I think that's a massive stretch as well and inaccurate.
I also bet you are about 100 times more likely to get shot as a police officer in the States than you would be in Australia. Gun violence in America is a big problem. So many guns. So many illegal guns as well.
Which makes being a copper in America an extremely dangerous proposition. Hence, why they sometimes appear to be heavy handed. Why they are quick to get their guns out until they have verified the suspect is unarmed.
It's got nothing o do with power trips or racism. A bit like Russian Roulette, they would be thinking which one is the guy that is going to pull out a handgun and unleash.
I saw a video recently where the police were apprehending another black guy. They surrounded him with three police cars and more on the way. the guy was an armed robber suspect so they assume he is carrying a gun. They get out of the cars, guns drawn and get the many on his knees with arms on his head. They had 4 guns on his back. They waiting for police back up and when they arrived they carefully approached the many grabbed his hands and cuffed him. Then the guns went down. They body searched him but from what I could tell there was no gun.
A senior officer came as there was a hysterical member of the public yelling to leave him alone and she was asking if the guns were necessary because she felt the police were too heavy. She was also fearful they were going to shoot the suspect. The officer told the lady to please calm down. The man is safe and nothing will happen to him. He told her they have to pull their guns because he is an armed robber suspect and because of that our officers must maintain their safety. He explained to her that the man will be taken to the station to find out what is going on with regard to the alleged crime.
It is not only about racism with the police in the US. They are mostly uneducated ignorant idiots who feel they are free to violates others rights because they can. They are on a power trip in wanting to exert their authority on the citizens with lies and intimidation, mainly on the vulnerable, because they act like gang members with gang mentality. They have a superiority and a inferiority complexes which makes them act like assholes. No surprise why they are called "PIGS", because they mostly stink in what they do. Many shouldn't even be police officers as they were once trained military soldiers, whom some may have psychological issues from actions they may have experienced or just their military training. Soldiers/ex soldiers do not make good peace officers. Their instincts is to kill and destroy.
I may sound anti police, but far from it. I am against the police who act like cunts. I love the police in Switzerland. They are very professional and do not look for an opportunity to violate the citizens rights, beat them up or shoot them.
Well if they are uneducated idiots (your words) they have to be trained like idiots at their academy. pilots are trained like we are dumb idiots. There isn't a lot of room for error. If event A happens, you must do B. If event C happens you must do D, and so on. There has to be a degree of regimental behaviour in police forces and in flying otherwise mistakes can happen and we kill ourselves. The guesswork hass to be taken out of the equation as much as possible.
It seems obvious to me that police in the States are trained to ensure that their safety is as near as 100% as possible. It's obvious to me that they are trained to assume every suspect is carrying a gun. Hence why, they pull out theirs until the suspect is cuffed or restrained.
I got no problem with them doing things like this. I am sure it is extremely scary to the suspect and the general public. May even appear heavy handed. But I can't blame them for this.
Blocking the airway of a suspect thus killing him, is however, criminal. No question about that.
But as we agree, this isn't a matter of race. More whites are killed by police than blacks. What this is is a case of police brutality costing the life of a man (colour is irrelevant). An action by an officer that needs to be addressed in court along with potentially another 3 officers.