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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:29 pm

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Those racist Mericans (that elected a black president) eh...?


Fuck off, Carson Tucker. The riots are about police brutality killing 1000+ citizens a year and committing violence and rights violations against millions more in many forms, and you want to talk about only those who died during the demonstrations. Fuck of Carlson Tucker. What a dick head.

After George Bush the son fiasco as a president , Americans would have voted anyone who could put a short sentences together. Obama did that and more. Just because A black man was elected president, it does not mean there is no racism in the USA. Besides, these demonstrations are about racism and brutality within the corrupt criminal police gangs and not about racism in general.



Now now kikapu.. “ killing 1000+ citizens per year”. Very bold statement and not accurate.. where’s your source?

Now now Ocean, did you know you are 10 times more likely to be killed by the criminal police gang in the USA than by a terrorist?

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https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:08 am

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Those racist Mericans (that elected a black president) eh...?


Fuck off, Carson Tucker. The riots are about police brutality killing 1000+ citizens a year and committing violence and rights violations against millions more in many forms, and you want to talk about only those who died during the demonstrations. Fuck of Carlson Tucker. What a dick head.

After George Bush the son fiasco as a president , Americans would have voted anyone who could put a short sentences together. Obama did that and more. Just because A black man was elected president, it does not mean there is no racism in the USA. Besides, these demonstrations are about racism and brutality within the corrupt criminal police gangs and not about racism in general.



Now now kikapu.. “ killing 1000+ citizens per year”. Very bold statement and not accurate.. where’s your source?



Shapiro says it very well

https://youtu.be/qOjbn4GwobE


A white boy who hasn’t experienced racism because he is a white boy cannot understand what racism is which is experienced by many black people. :roll:

It will be like asking Mother Teresa to explain what it’s like to be a prostitute. :roll:
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:57 am

Kikapu wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:

Those racist Mericans (that elected a black president) eh...?


Fuck off, Carson Tucker. The riots are about police brutality killing 1000+ citizens a year and committing violence and rights violations against millions more in many forms, and you want to talk about only those who died during the demonstrations. Fuck of Carlson Tucker. What a dick head.

After George Bush the son fiasco as a president , Americans would have voted anyone who could put a short sentences together. Obama did that and more. Just because A black man was elected president, it does not mean there is no racism in the USA. Besides, these demonstrations are about racism and brutality within the corrupt criminal police gangs and not about racism in general.



Now now kikapu.. “ killing 1000+ citizens per year”. Very bold statement and not accurate.. where’s your source?

Now now Ocean, did you know you are 10 times more likely to be killed by the criminal police gang in the USA than by a terrorist?

Screen shot 2020-06-11 at 23.23.07.png

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/


Sorry I think that's a massive stretch as well and inaccurate.

I also bet you are about 100 times more likely to get shot as a police officer in the States than you would be in Australia. Gun violence in America is a big problem. So many guns. So many illegal guns as well.

Which makes being a copper in America an extremely dangerous proposition. Hence, why they sometimes appear to be heavy handed. Why they are quick to get their guns out until they have verified the suspect is unarmed.

It's got nothing o do with power trips or racism. A bit like Russian Roulette, they would be thinking which one is the guy that is going to pull out a handgun and unleash.

I saw a video recently where the police were apprehending another black guy. They surrounded him with three police cars and more on the way. the guy was an armed robber suspect so they assume he is carrying a gun. They get out of the cars, guns drawn and get the many on his knees with arms on his head. They had 4 guns on his back. They waiting for police back up and when they arrived they carefully approached the many grabbed his hands and cuffed him. Then the guns went down. They body searched him but from what I could tell there was no gun.

A senior officer came as there was a hysterical member of the public yelling to leave him alone and she was asking if the guns were necessary because she felt the police were too heavy. She was also fearful they were going to shoot the suspect. The officer told the lady to please calm down. The man is safe and nothing will happen to him. He told her they have to pull their guns because he is an armed robber suspect and because of that our officers must maintain their safety. He explained to her that the man will be taken to the station to find out what is going on with regard to the alleged crime.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:08 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:


Now now kikapu.. “ killing 1000+ citizens per year”. Very bold statement and not accurate.. where’s your source?

Now now Ocean, did you know you are 10 times more likely to be killed by the criminal police gang in the USA than by a terrorist?

Screen shot 2020-06-11 at 23.23.07.png

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/


Sorry I think that's a massive stretch as well and inaccurate.

I also bet you are about 100 times more likely to get shot as a police officer in the States than you would be in Australia. Gun violence in America is a big problem. So many guns. So many illegal guns as well.

Which makes being a copper in America an extremely dangerous proposition. Hence, why they sometimes appear to be heavy handed. Why they are quick to get their guns out until they have verified the suspect is unarmed.

It's got nothing o do with power trips or racism. A bit like Russian Roulette, they would be thinking which one is the guy that is going to pull out a handgun and unleash.

I saw a video recently where the police were apprehending another black guy. They surrounded him with three police cars and more on the way. the guy was an armed robber suspect so they assume he is carrying a gun. They get out of the cars, guns drawn and get the many on his knees with arms on his head. They had 4 guns on his back. They waiting for police back up and when they arrived they carefully approached the many grabbed his hands and cuffed him. Then the guns went down. They body searched him but from what I could tell there was no gun.

A senior officer came as there was a hysterical member of the public yelling to leave him alone and she was asking if the guns were necessary because she felt the police were too heavy. She was also fearful they were going to shoot the suspect. The officer told the lady to please calm down. The man is safe and nothing will happen to him. He told her they have to pull their guns because he is an armed robber suspect and because of that our officers must maintain their safety. He explained to her that the man will be taken to the station to find out what is going on with regard to the alleged crime.

It is not only about racism with the police in the US. They are mostly uneducated ignorant idiots who feel they are free to violates others rights because they can. They are on a power trip in wanting to exert their authority on the citizens with lies and intimidation, mainly on the vulnerable, because they act like gang members with gang mentality. They have a superiority and a inferiority complexes which makes them act like assholes. No surprise why they are called "PIGS", because they mostly stink in what they do. Many shouldn't even be police officers as they were once trained military soldiers, whom some may have psychological issues from actions they may have experienced or just their military training. Soldiers/ex soldiers do not make good peace officers. Their instincts is to kill and destroy.

I may sound anti police, but far from it. I am against the police who act like cunts. I love the police in Switzerland. They are very professional and do not look for an opportunity to violate the citizens rights, beat them up or shoot them.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:50 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:


Now now kikapu.. “ killing 1000+ citizens per year”. Very bold statement and not accurate.. where’s your source?

Now now Ocean, did you know you are 10 times more likely to be killed by the criminal police gang in the USA than by a terrorist?

Screen shot 2020-06-11 at 23.23.07.png

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/


Sorry I think that's a massive stretch as well and inaccurate.

I also bet you are about 100 times more likely to get shot as a police officer in the States than you would be in Australia. Gun violence in America is a big problem. So many guns. So many illegal guns as well.

Which makes being a copper in America an extremely dangerous proposition. Hence, why they sometimes appear to be heavy handed. Why they are quick to get their guns out until they have verified the suspect is unarmed.

It's got nothing o do with power trips or racism. A bit like Russian Roulette, they would be thinking which one is the guy that is going to pull out a handgun and unleash.

I saw a video recently where the police were apprehending another black guy. They surrounded him with three police cars and more on the way. the guy was an armed robber suspect so they assume he is carrying a gun. They get out of the cars, guns drawn and get the many on his knees with arms on his head. They had 4 guns on his back. They waiting for police back up and when they arrived they carefully approached the many grabbed his hands and cuffed him. Then the guns went down. They body searched him but from what I could tell there was no gun.

A senior officer came as there was a hysterical member of the public yelling to leave him alone and she was asking if the guns were necessary because she felt the police were too heavy. She was also fearful they were going to shoot the suspect. The officer told the lady to please calm down. The man is safe and nothing will happen to him. He told her they have to pull their guns because he is an armed robber suspect and because of that our officers must maintain their safety. He explained to her that the man will be taken to the station to find out what is going on with regard to the alleged crime.

It is not only about racism with the police in the US. They are mostly uneducated ignorant idiots who feel they are free to violates others rights because they can. They are on a power trip in wanting to exert their authority on the citizens with lies and intimidation, mainly on the vulnerable, because they act like gang members with gang mentality. They have a superiority and a inferiority complexes which makes them act like assholes. No surprise why they are called "PIGS", because they mostly stink in what they do. Many shouldn't even be police officers as they were once trained military soldiers, whom some may have psychological issues from actions they may have experienced or just their military training. Soldiers/ex soldiers do not make good peace officers. Their instincts is to kill and destroy.

I may sound anti police, but far from it. I am against the police who act like cunts. I love the police in Switzerland. They are very professional and do not look for an opportunity to violate the citizens rights, beat them up or shoot them.



The elephant in the room here are the strong Police Unions.

They make it almost impossible to sack (or even discipline) a bad cop.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:10 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:


Now now kikapu.. “ killing 1000+ citizens per year”. Very bold statement and not accurate.. where’s your source?

Now now Ocean, did you know you are 10 times more likely to be killed by the criminal police gang in the USA than by a terrorist?

Screen shot 2020-06-11 at 23.23.07.png

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/


Sorry I think that's a massive stretch as well and inaccurate.

I also bet you are about 100 times more likely to get shot as a police officer in the States than you would be in Australia. Gun violence in America is a big problem. So many guns. So many illegal guns as well.

Which makes being a copper in America an extremely dangerous proposition. Hence, why they sometimes appear to be heavy handed. Why they are quick to get their guns out until they have verified the suspect is unarmed.

It's got nothing o do with power trips or racism. A bit like Russian Roulette, they would be thinking which one is the guy that is going to pull out a handgun and unleash.

I saw a video recently where the police were apprehending another black guy. They surrounded him with three police cars and more on the way. the guy was an armed robber suspect so they assume he is carrying a gun. They get out of the cars, guns drawn and get the many on his knees with arms on his head. They had 4 guns on his back. They waiting for police back up and when they arrived they carefully approached the many grabbed his hands and cuffed him. Then the guns went down. They body searched him but from what I could tell there was no gun.

A senior officer came as there was a hysterical member of the public yelling to leave him alone and she was asking if the guns were necessary because she felt the police were too heavy. She was also fearful they were going to shoot the suspect. The officer told the lady to please calm down. The man is safe and nothing will happen to him. He told her they have to pull their guns because he is an armed robber suspect and because of that our officers must maintain their safety. He explained to her that the man will be taken to the station to find out what is going on with regard to the alleged crime.

It is not only about racism with the police in the US. They are mostly uneducated ignorant idiots who feel they are free to violates others rights because they can. They are on a power trip in wanting to exert their authority on the citizens with lies and intimidation, mainly on the vulnerable, because they act like gang members with gang mentality. They have a superiority and a inferiority complexes which makes them act like assholes. No surprise why they are called "PIGS", because they mostly stink in what they do. Many shouldn't even be police officers as they were once trained military soldiers, whom some may have psychological issues from actions they may have experienced or just their military training. Soldiers/ex soldiers do not make good peace officers. Their instincts is to kill and destroy.

I may sound anti police, but far from it. I am against the police who act like cunts. I love the police in Switzerland. They are very professional and do not look for an opportunity to violate the citizens rights, beat them up or shoot them.


Well if they are uneducated idiots (your words) they have to be trained like idiots at their academy. pilots are trained like we are dumb idiots. There isn't a lot of room for error. If event A happens, you must do B. If event C happens you must do D, and so on. There has to be a degree of regimental behaviour in police forces and in flying otherwise mistakes can happen and we kill ourselves. The guesswork hass to be taken out of the equation as much as possible.

It seems obvious to me that police in the States are trained to ensure that their safety is as near as 100% as possible. It's obvious to me that they are trained to assume every suspect is carrying a gun. Hence why, they pull out theirs until the suspect is cuffed or restrained.

I got no problem with them doing things like this. I am sure it is extremely scary to the suspect and the general public. May even appear heavy handed. But I can't blame them for this.

Blocking the airway of a suspect thus killing him, is however, criminal. No question about that.

But as we agree, this isn't a matter of race. More whites are killed by police than blacks. What this is is a case of police brutality costing the life of a man (colour is irrelevant). An action by an officer that needs to be addressed in court along with potentially another 3 officers.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:49 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:


Now now kikapu.. “ killing 1000+ citizens per year”. Very bold statement and not accurate.. where’s your source?

Now now Ocean, did you know you are 10 times more likely to be killed by the criminal police gang in the USA than by a terrorist?

Screen shot 2020-06-11 at 23.23.07.png

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/


Sorry I think that's a massive stretch as well and inaccurate.

I also bet you are about 100 times more likely to get shot as a police officer in the States than you would be in Australia. Gun violence in America is a big problem. So many guns. So many illegal guns as well.

Which makes being a copper in America an extremely dangerous proposition. Hence, why they sometimes appear to be heavy handed. Why they are quick to get their guns out until they have verified the suspect is unarmed.

It's got nothing o do with power trips or racism. A bit like Russian Roulette, they would be thinking which one is the guy that is going to pull out a handgun and unleash.

I saw a video recently where the police were apprehending another black guy. They surrounded him with three police cars and more on the way. the guy was an armed robber suspect so they assume he is carrying a gun. They get out of the cars, guns drawn and get the many on his knees with arms on his head. They had 4 guns on his back. They waiting for police back up and when they arrived they carefully approached the many grabbed his hands and cuffed him. Then the guns went down. They body searched him but from what I could tell there was no gun.

A senior officer came as there was a hysterical member of the public yelling to leave him alone and she was asking if the guns were necessary because she felt the police were too heavy. She was also fearful they were going to shoot the suspect. The officer told the lady to please calm down. The man is safe and nothing will happen to him. He told her they have to pull their guns because he is an armed robber suspect and because of that our officers must maintain their safety. He explained to her that the man will be taken to the station to find out what is going on with regard to the alleged crime.

It is not only about racism with the police in the US. They are mostly uneducated ignorant idiots who feel they are free to violates others rights because they can. They are on a power trip in wanting to exert their authority on the citizens with lies and intimidation, mainly on the vulnerable, because they act like gang members with gang mentality. They have a superiority and a inferiority complexes which makes them act like assholes. No surprise why they are called "PIGS", because they mostly stink in what they do. Many shouldn't even be police officers as they were once trained military soldiers, whom some may have psychological issues from actions they may have experienced or just their military training. Soldiers/ex soldiers do not make good peace officers. Their instincts is to kill and destroy.

I may sound anti police, but far from it. I am against the police who act like cunts. I love the police in Switzerland. They are very professional and do not look for an opportunity to violate the citizens rights, beat them up or shoot them.



The elephant in the room here are the strong Police Unions.

They make it almost impossible to sack (or even discipline) a bad cop.

Absolutely CG, which is why the police act the way they do, because they have been given a free hand to do what they like. Same with the prison guards unions. These two unions are in bed together to arrest as many citizens as possible so more police officers are needed, which would require more prisons built and more prison officers, which means more membership equals to more membership dues and more money for the unions. I am hoping that congress with new laws can clip these unions wings and make them and their members accountable for their actions.

US being 4% of the world’s population has 25% of prison incarcerations. What is wrong with this picture?
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:11 pm

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:


Now now kikapu.. “ killing 1000+ citizens per year”. Very bold statement and not accurate.. where’s your source?

Now now Ocean, did you know you are 10 times more likely to be killed by the criminal police gang in the USA than by a terrorist?

Screen shot 2020-06-11 at 23.23.07.png

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/


Sorry I think that's a massive stretch as well and inaccurate.

I also bet you are about 100 times more likely to get shot as a police officer in the States than you would be in Australia. Gun violence in America is a big problem. So many guns. So many illegal guns as well.

Which makes being a copper in America an extremely dangerous proposition. Hence, why they sometimes appear to be heavy handed. Why they are quick to get their guns out until they have verified the suspect is unarmed.

It's got nothing o do with power trips or racism. A bit like Russian Roulette, they would be thinking which one is the guy that is going to pull out a handgun and unleash.

I saw a video recently where the police were apprehending another black guy. They surrounded him with three police cars and more on the way. the guy was an armed robber suspect so they assume he is carrying a gun. They get out of the cars, guns drawn and get the many on his knees with arms on his head. They had 4 guns on his back. They waiting for police back up and when they arrived they carefully approached the many grabbed his hands and cuffed him. Then the guns went down. They body searched him but from what I could tell there was no gun.

A senior officer came as there was a hysterical member of the public yelling to leave him alone and she was asking if the guns were necessary because she felt the police were too heavy. She was also fearful they were going to shoot the suspect. The officer told the lady to please calm down. The man is safe and nothing will happen to him. He told her they have to pull their guns because he is an armed robber suspect and because of that our officers must maintain their safety. He explained to her that the man will be taken to the station to find out what is going on with regard to the alleged crime.

It is not only about racism with the police in the US. They are mostly uneducated ignorant idiots who feel they are free to violates others rights because they can. They are on a power trip in wanting to exert their authority on the citizens with lies and intimidation, mainly on the vulnerable, because they act like gang members with gang mentality. They have a superiority and a inferiority complexes which makes them act like assholes. No surprise why they are called "PIGS", because they mostly stink in what they do. Many shouldn't even be police officers as they were once trained military soldiers, whom some may have psychological issues from actions they may have experienced or just their military training. Soldiers/ex soldiers do not make good peace officers. Their instincts is to kill and destroy.

I may sound anti police, but far from it. I am against the police who act like cunts. I love the police in Switzerland. They are very professional and do not look for an opportunity to violate the citizens rights, beat them up or shoot them.



The elephant in the room here are the strong Police Unions.

They make it almost impossible to sack (or even discipline) a bad cop.

Absolutely CG, which is why the police act the way they do, because they have been given a free hand to do what they like. Same with the prison guards unions. These two unions are in bed together to arrest as many citizens as possible so more police officers are needed, which would require more prisons built and more prison officers, which means more membership equals to more membership dues and more money for the unions. I am hoping that congress with new laws can clip these unions wings and make them and their members accountable for their actions.

US being 4% of the world’s population has 25% of prison incarcerations. What is wrong with this picture?


The union isn't exactly protecting the jobs of those 4 officers or did I miss something?

Usually, unions protect worker rights, and even offer assistance when they get in trouble but they certainly do not defend officers when it is obvious they have done something illegal or killed someone wrongfully from excessive force.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:48 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:


Now now kikapu.. “ killing 1000+ citizens per year”. Very bold statement and not accurate.. where’s your source?

Now now Ocean, did you know you are 10 times more likely to be killed by the criminal police gang in the USA than by a terrorist?

Screen shot 2020-06-11 at 23.23.07.png

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/


Sorry I think that's a massive stretch as well and inaccurate.

I also bet you are about 100 times more likely to get shot as a police officer in the States than you would be in Australia. Gun violence in America is a big problem. So many guns. So many illegal guns as well.

Which makes being a copper in America an extremely dangerous proposition. Hence, why they sometimes appear to be heavy handed. Why they are quick to get their guns out until they have verified the suspect is unarmed.

It's got nothing o do with power trips or racism. A bit like Russian Roulette, they would be thinking which one is the guy that is going to pull out a handgun and unleash.

I saw a video recently where the police were apprehending another black guy. They surrounded him with three police cars and more on the way. the guy was an armed robber suspect so they assume he is carrying a gun. They get out of the cars, guns drawn and get the many on his knees with arms on his head. They had 4 guns on his back. They waiting for police back up and when they arrived they carefully approached the many grabbed his hands and cuffed him. Then the guns went down. They body searched him but from what I could tell there was no gun.

A senior officer came as there was a hysterical member of the public yelling to leave him alone and she was asking if the guns were necessary because she felt the police were too heavy. She was also fearful they were going to shoot the suspect. The officer told the lady to please calm down. The man is safe and nothing will happen to him. He told her they have to pull their guns because he is an armed robber suspect and because of that our officers must maintain their safety. He explained to her that the man will be taken to the station to find out what is going on with regard to the alleged crime.

It is not only about racism with the police in the US. They are mostly uneducated ignorant idiots who feel they are free to violates others rights because they can. They are on a power trip in wanting to exert their authority on the citizens with lies and intimidation, mainly on the vulnerable, because they act like gang members with gang mentality. They have a superiority and a inferiority complexes which makes them act like assholes. No surprise why they are called "PIGS", because they mostly stink in what they do. Many shouldn't even be police officers as they were once trained military soldiers, whom some may have psychological issues from actions they may have experienced or just their military training. Soldiers/ex soldiers do not make good peace officers. Their instincts is to kill and destroy.

I may sound anti police, but far from it. I am against the police who act like cunts. I love the police in Switzerland. They are very professional and do not look for an opportunity to violate the citizens rights, beat them up or shoot them.



The elephant in the room here are the strong Police Unions.

They make it almost impossible to sack (or even discipline) a bad cop.

Absolutely CG, which is why the police act the way they do, because they have been given a free hand to do what they like. Same with the prison guards unions. These two unions are in bed together to arrest as many citizens as possible so more police officers are needed, which would require more prisons built and more prison officers, which means more membership equals to more membership dues and more money for the unions. I am hoping that congress with new laws can clip these unions wings and make them and their members accountable for their actions.

US being 4% of the world’s population has 25% of prison incarcerations. What is wrong with this picture?


The union isn't exactly protecting the jobs of those 4 officers or did I miss something?

Usually, unions protect worker rights, and even offer assistance when they get in trouble but they certainly do not defend officers when it is obvious they have done something illegal or killed someone wrongfully from excessive force.

I can guarantee you, if there wasn’t a video of the murder, they would have been on paid leave for couple of weeks and then back on duty.
Yes, even the unions can’t protect them for blatant murder, but more than likely pay for their defense. Cops commit crime against the citizens all the time, but it is hard to prove it as the cops often falsify their reports and their fellow officers who has witnessed such crimes do not rat on them. The whole police force is corrupt to the core as they protect each other, including the district attorney so that the city would not be sued for large amounts of money.

Always film the cops to protect yourself as most are just cunts.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:57 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:


Now now kikapu.. “ killing 1000+ citizens per year”. Very bold statement and not accurate.. where’s your source?

Now now Ocean, did you know you are 10 times more likely to be killed by the criminal police gang in the USA than by a terrorist?

Screen shot 2020-06-11 at 23.23.07.png

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/


Sorry I think that's a massive stretch as well and inaccurate.

I also bet you are about 100 times more likely to get shot as a police officer in the States than you would be in Australia. Gun violence in America is a big problem. So many guns. So many illegal guns as well.

Which makes being a copper in America an extremely dangerous proposition. Hence, why they sometimes appear to be heavy handed. Why they are quick to get their guns out until they have verified the suspect is unarmed.

It's got nothing o do with power trips or racism. A bit like Russian Roulette, they would be thinking which one is the guy that is going to pull out a handgun and unleash.

I saw a video recently where the police were apprehending another black guy. They surrounded him with three police cars and more on the way. the guy was an armed robber suspect so they assume he is carrying a gun. They get out of the cars, guns drawn and get the many on his knees with arms on his head. They had 4 guns on his back. They waiting for police back up and when they arrived they carefully approached the many grabbed his hands and cuffed him. Then the guns went down. They body searched him but from what I could tell there was no gun.

A senior officer came as there was a hysterical member of the public yelling to leave him alone and she was asking if the guns were necessary because she felt the police were too heavy. She was also fearful they were going to shoot the suspect. The officer told the lady to please calm down. The man is safe and nothing will happen to him. He told her they have to pull their guns because he is an armed robber suspect and because of that our officers must maintain their safety. He explained to her that the man will be taken to the station to find out what is going on with regard to the alleged crime.

It is not only about racism with the police in the US. They are mostly uneducated ignorant idiots who feel they are free to violates others rights because they can. They are on a power trip in wanting to exert their authority on the citizens with lies and intimidation, mainly on the vulnerable, because they act like gang members with gang mentality. They have a superiority and a inferiority complexes which makes them act like assholes. No surprise why they are called "PIGS", because they mostly stink in what they do. Many shouldn't even be police officers as they were once trained military soldiers, whom some may have psychological issues from actions they may have experienced or just their military training. Soldiers/ex soldiers do not make good peace officers. Their instincts is to kill and destroy.

I may sound anti police, but far from it. I am against the police who act like cunts. I love the police in Switzerland. They are very professional and do not look for an opportunity to violate the citizens rights, beat them up or shoot them.



The elephant in the room here are the strong Police Unions.

They make it almost impossible to sack (or even discipline) a bad cop.

Absolutely CG, which is why the police act the way they do, because they have been given a free hand to do what they like. Same with the prison guards unions. These two unions are in bed together to arrest as many citizens as possible so more police officers are needed, which would require more prisons built and more prison officers, which means more membership equals to more membership dues and more money for the unions. I am hoping that congress with new laws can clip these unions wings and make them and their members accountable for their actions.

US being 4% of the world’s population has 25% of prison incarcerations. What is wrong with this picture?


The union isn't exactly protecting the jobs of those 4 officers or did I miss something?

Usually, unions protect worker rights, and even offer assistance when they get in trouble but they certainly do not defend officers when it is obvious they have done something illegal or killed someone wrongfully from excessive force.

I can guarantee you, if there wasn’t a video of the murder, they would have been on paid leave for couple of weeks and then back on duty.
Yes, even the unions can’t protect them for blatant murder, but more than likely pay for their defense. Cops commit crime against the citizens all the time, but it is hard to prove it as the cops often falsify their reports and their fellow officers who has witnessed such crimes do not rat on them. The whole police force is corrupt to the core as they protect each other, including the district attorney so that the city would not be sued for large amounts of money.

Always film the cops to protect yourself as most are just cunts.


I would say Kikapu that 99.9% of deaths from police are because the suspects they were chasing at the time pulled out guns and got into a shoot out with the police.

That isn't murder.
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