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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:12 am

Oceanside50 wrote:This young black lady has a pretty good insight into what’s happening..Kikapu

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Yes, I listened to her rant, someone who was most probably born with a silver spoon up her nose. Of course she cannot relate to any underprivileged black person from the other side of the tracks. She lives in a different world with different people. It is funny how she listed Floyd’s rap sheet but failed to list his murderer’s rap sheet which includes death and shootings. America as a whole is a drugs using nation, just that the underprivileged get their drugs on the streets in back alleys and the privileged get theirs delivered to their homes by a courier. It is snot nosed people like her who thinks she is better than those who does not have it as good as her, my assumption from her well educated use of the English language.

Privileged black Americans, which there are many, do not face racism or police brutality as they have the means to prevent it. Who the hell said anything about Floyd was a martyr for the black community? The anger on the streets is about murdering a human being in broad daylight by the police, and if it wasn’t for the demonstrations and the riots, it would have all been swept under the carpet, and for this snot nosed girl that would have been OK, the little cunt, because the police are just human beings and that the victim had drugs in him and on him, and let’s not forget the counterfeit $20 dollar bill he was trying to pass. Did he know it was a fake $20 dollar bill? Did they find more fake money on him? It is true, many privileged black Americans are Republicans. Who cares? Everyone is free to support who they like and associate with. There also those who are black but want to be white. This little snot nosed girl comes across as being one of them.

I had once deposited few thousand dollars in cash with a teller at a bank and about a week later when I returned home from a trip, I got a letter from the bank stating that one of the $100 dollar bills was counterfeit and that it was forwarded to the FBI for investigation and that the $100 dollars would be taken out from my account. I told the bank no way I would agree for them to remove the $100 dollars from my account, because as far as I am concerned all the bills were good. Once I left the bank, it is no longer my concern. If I had accepted that I gave them a fake money, I would most probably had to deal with the FBI. Who needs that shit.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Oceanside50 » Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:09 pm

Why should we put the girl down when she’s well off with education and wealth? The black community needs more like her.. Blacks can rise to the top if they have the education and drive to do so it’s being proven night and day.. no one is excusing the murder of this man but when the culture of black Americans is to hold onto the bottom of the community and excuse their behaviors out of guilt then the top of the community are still in chains..
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:20 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:Why should we put the girl down when she’s well off with education and wealth? The black community needs more like her.. Blacks can rise to the top if they have the education and drive to do so it’s being proven night and day.. no one is excusing the murder of this man but when the culture of black Americans is to hold onto the bottom of the community and excuse their behaviors out of guilt then the top of the community are still in chains..


I did not put her down for being well off and educated. More power to her. It is when she starts preaching about things she knows nothing about because she hasn't lived long enough to have had the experience what the not so well off minorities go through economically, socially and police brutality. It is like a white person saying they have not felt any racism. How can a white person know what racism is to what minorities go through? It is no different to most privileged well off minorities as they too have no idea what racism is, because they too do live in a "white man's world". Just like men cannot relate to sexual harassment women go through every day. How can they?
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:46 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:Why should we put the girl down when she’s well off with education and wealth? The black community needs more like her.. Blacks can rise to the top if they have the education and drive to do so it’s being proven night and day.. no one is excusing the murder of this man but when the culture of black Americans is to hold onto the bottom of the community and excuse their behaviors out of guilt then the top of the community are still in chains..


I did not put her down for being well off and educated. More power to her. It is when she starts preaching about things she knows nothing about because she hasn't lived long enough to have had the experience what the not so well off minorities go through economically, socially and police brutality. It is like a white person saying they have not felt any racism. How can a white person know what racism is to what minorities go through? It is no different to most privileged well off minorities as they too have no idea what racism is, because they too do live in a "white man's world". Just like men cannot relate to sexual harassment women go through every day. How can they?



Serious Question(s):

Why do Asian minorities in America not suffer the same oppression and racism?

Why aren't Asians disproportionately represented in crime statistics and prison populations?

Just wondering... :?
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby erolz66 » Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:33 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:Why should we put the girl down when she’s well off with education and wealth? The black community needs more like her.. Blacks can rise to the top if they have the education and drive to do so it’s being proven night and day.. no one is excusing the murder of this man but when the culture of black Americans is to hold onto the bottom of the community and excuse their behaviors out of guilt then the top of the community are still in chains..


I did not put her down for being well off and educated. More power to her. It is when she starts preaching about things she knows nothing about because she hasn't lived long enough to have had the experience what the not so well off minorities go through economically, socially and police brutality. It is like a white person saying they have not felt any racism. How can a white person know what racism is to what minorities go through? It is no different to most privileged well off minorities as they too have no idea what racism is, because they too do live in a "white man's world". Just like men cannot relate to sexual harassment women go through every day. How can they?



Serious Question(s):

Why do Asian minorities in America not suffer the same oppression and racism?

Why aren't Asians disproportionately represented in crime statistics and prison populations?

Just wondering... :?


Serious question that deserve serious thought and attempts to understand better. I personally doubt your desire or ability to do such. Certainly a place you could start looking for at least part of the answer would be the history of the US and how it was built on slavery of Africans and not Asians. Something I doubt you have much interest in actually doing. I suspect you like to ask the question leaving it unanswered because you have already decided what the difference is and that is why you ask the question. Not because you want to understand any underlying reality better.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:46 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:Why should we put the girl down when she’s well off with education and wealth? The black community needs more like her.. Blacks can rise to the top if they have the education and drive to do so it’s being proven night and day.. no one is excusing the murder of this man but when the culture of black Americans is to hold onto the bottom of the community and excuse their behaviors out of guilt then the top of the community are still in chains..


I did not put her down for being well off and educated. More power to her. It is when she starts preaching about things she knows nothing about because she hasn't lived long enough to have had the experience what the not so well off minorities go through economically, socially and police brutality. It is like a white person saying they have not felt any racism. How can a white person know what racism is to what minorities go through? It is no different to most privileged well off minorities as they too have no idea what racism is, because they too do live in a "white man's world". Just like men cannot relate to sexual harassment women go through every day. How can they?



Serious Question(s):

Why do Asian minorities in America not suffer the same oppression and racism?

Why aren't Asians disproportionately represented in crime statistics and prison populations?

Just wondering... :?


I think it has to do with family unity and hard working parents to educate their children to give them a good start in life. In a capitalist country like the USA, once someone falls through the cracks, it is very difficult for them to get out of it. It truly is a dog eat dog world there with very little safety nets. Everyone loves winners in the US and no place for the second best. People do not choose to be homeless, but there are thousands all across the US. People do not choose to be victim of racism, but they are all across the US. People do not choose poverty over prosperity, but there are many in poverty all across the US and poverty and crime are linked as one feeds on the other to create a vicious cycle for the poor and the societal undesirables.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:52 pm

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:Why should we put the girl down when she’s well off with education and wealth? The black community needs more like her.. Blacks can rise to the top if they have the education and drive to do so it’s being proven night and day.. no one is excusing the murder of this man but when the culture of black Americans is to hold onto the bottom of the community and excuse their behaviors out of guilt then the top of the community are still in chains..


I did not put her down for being well off and educated. More power to her. It is when she starts preaching about things she knows nothing about because she hasn't lived long enough to have had the experience what the not so well off minorities go through economically, socially and police brutality. It is like a white person saying they have not felt any racism. How can a white person know what racism is to what minorities go through? It is no different to most privileged well off minorities as they too have no idea what racism is, because they too do live in a "white man's world". Just like men cannot relate to sexual harassment women go through every day. How can they?



Serious Question(s):

Why do Asian minorities in America not suffer the same oppression and racism?

Why aren't Asians disproportionately represented in crime statistics and prison populations?

Just wondering... :?


I think it has to do with family unity and hard working parents to educate their children to give them a good start in life. In a capitalist country like the USA, once someone falls through the cracks, it is very difficult for them to get out of it. It truly is a dog eat dog world there with very little safety nets. Everyone loves winners in the US and no place for the second best. People do not choose to be homeless, but there are thousands all across the US. People do not choose to be victim of racism, but they are all across the US. People do not choose poverty over prosperity, but there are many in poverty all across the US and poverty and crime are linked as one feeds on the other to create a vicious cycle for the poor and the societal undesirables.


There you go! :wink:

You have spoken the unspeakable but you are right. Not racism at all then....
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Oceanside50 » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:37 pm

What I’ve noticed is that black Americans and their leaders cling onto “its racism”..It may have been true 20-30-50-500 years ago .. but today racism is minimal, but their leaders try and solve their problems based on racism and that’s why things are not getting solved..
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:19 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:What I’ve noticed is that black Americans and their leaders cling onto “its racism”..It may have been true 20-30-50-500 years ago .. but today racism is minimal, but their leaders try and solve their problems based on racism and that’s why things are not getting solved..



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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:26 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:What I’ve noticed is that black Americans and their leaders cling onto “its racism”..It may have been true 20-30-50-500 years ago .. but today racism is minimal, but their leaders try and solve their problems based on racism and that’s why things are not getting solved..

I agree with you with the above statement for the African American leaders who benefit from blaming all the problems of their community to be racism alone. It is not.

A lot of effort went to bus underprivileged black kids to schools where white kids went in better neighbourhood, to perhaps for them to get better education, but at the end of the day, they went back home to the life of the underprivileged. The gains are/were very little. Then we had affirmative action for the minorities and women in the workplace which was reverse discrimination to the majority whites where the most qualified did not get the job.

It is difficult to make right 500 of years of discrimination against the blacks and other minorities. Women have fared much better in all this, although they have still a ways to go to equal men in pay and position in the work place. It is not an easy problem to solve. It does not need to take another 500 years to solve since we have come a long way in the last 50-60 years since the civil rights movement, which is an oxymoron title to begin with in a country which is meant to be a democracy and equality, but instead, we had for so long the bullshit title “separate but equal” which the whites had no problem with such injustices for such a long time.

Yes, it is hard for some whites to let go the past injustices against the blacks and a lot has improved, and better late than never, however, these injustices still exist with the police force. The whole injustices against the blacks in the police force as well as in the courts needs it’s swamps drained to give the citizens confidence that everyone will be treated equally in the eyes of the law.
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