Keep dreaming and dreaming and dreaming .. like you did for the last 30 years. Partition is illegal, and the results of ethnically cleansing the majority from 1/3rd of Cyprus in order to create an artificial Turkish state will never be legalized.
You leave me no alternative, the choice to jump into the dark GC abis of human rights and democracy applied to minorities in a GC dominated state or dream of recognition, then believe there is really no comparison for myself and many TCs, the later is way ahead and without doubt is what we would chose time and time again. If we are unable to see the elements necessary to protect our community from being dominated by the numerically larger partner in any solution then as you quite rightly have said in the past why bother.
The unrecognized TRNC even in its current state is more than ample for TCs to live peacefully, without discrimination and fear for ones life which we have been doing over the past 32 years.
GC leadership can try to block us at every turn thats been their policy for the last 46 years its nothing new and we are very much accustomed to it. We have coped with it in the past and will do in the future. No one can force us to accept a solution that would ensure that Cyprus becomes as GC dominated state with us as just any other minority.
As for the cleansing of GCs imho over the coming years as there is no solution TCs will take measures that will allow GCs to return and live with us under the TRNC. This will bring a new dimension to the TRNC and the world will evaluate this accordingly. The cogs towards recognition have been turning for many years its only a matter of time when this will come, the choice is now yours a solution that will address all our concerns or stalemate that will produce alternative results. Im willing to wait are you?
When you can't argue against what I say what do you do? You argue against your imagination.
Why do we have this dialog then, if what I say is not what matters? How could any negotiations have any result in this way?
We have to anticipate what your true intentions are as we are all aware where your arguement leads, the majority rules syndrome you support is apparent for all to see. The only thing you do not respond to or chose to ignore is our concerns because you feel it just not worth bothering about which of course suits your agenda of the ultimate GC unitary state.
Its obvious that we are unable to agree on anthing this imo is nothing to do with content of the issues but more to do with both our perceptions of each other which does not allow trust or believe that one community really has the best interests of the other community on a par with their own. Your chanting of GC brand/application of human rights and democracy does not impress anyone and your actions speak louder than anything you can say, just follow what happens to TCs applications in your courts, the selling of TC land, no electricity for TC, no voting rights for TCs, no TC school, objection to meetings with TCs just to name a few, Im sure your 100% behind these actions as you feel it serves your agenda but imo it will work against you and show the world your real intentions.
Suprise us and the world and act democratically and allow TCs their human rights then we can talk about how we can adopt measures to apply those prime examples you so hard fastly apply to all Cypriots. In other words lead by example not by just talking, talk is cheap Piratis.
I am sorry that you can not see that a country were democracy and human rights exists for all, without any kind of discrimination based on race, language, sex etc is for the best of all Cypriots.
Administered by whom???
Please be realistic, we would be at the mercy of the numerically larger GCs. Thanks but no thanks, we have been there and dont want to go back. Your exclusive brand of human rights and democracy causes discrimination and hardship, culminating even in death please allow me the human right to not enter into such an dark abis.
Turkish Cypriots, as the 18%, can have a guaranteed proportional representation in every level, veto powers in all important matters and direct control of anything related to their different culture, religion and language without the involvement of any GC. These are more things than any other minority in the world has, still we do not have any objections since they would not violate our basic human rights.
This part of your post is very positive and encouraging, I apllaud you for it, it shows that deep down you do understand our concerns and that you are willing to discuss them, if you could only get around seeing as wanting to take anything away from you Im sure we could solve matters. The current situation was not created by you or myself but we are left with the very difficult task of clearing up.
Then of course what I say doesn't matter for you, since what it matters is only what you imagine I say, so you can continue your illegalities and crimes. Based on this assumption of yours any dialog and negotiation is rendered useless. It is obvious that what we say will not matter. All you want is a disguised partition, and if you don't get it you will continue with your illegal occupation.
What you say and do are of the utmost importance and it shapes and prompts our own minset and how we respond. So really you contribute to the negativity that comes from the north. If only your leadership realized this and took measures to win over the TCs the whole issue would become more easy to solve but unfortunately that is not the case with you or your leadership. (although the above paragraph does give me a glimmer of hope).
If we cant negotiate a solution then nothing changes and the current status quo continues you have to accept 50% of the responsiblity for this fact.
I just hope that one day TCs will realize there can be no excuse for the violations of the human and democratic rights of people, and that indeed a united federal Cyprus, with no refugees, no human rights violations, equality of all citizens and all the other things that exist in every modern democratic country is the best for Cyprus as well.
When your well being and future are at risk then you have every right. Prove to me this is not the case, and that in a new united Cyprus I will be safe and protected from unjust GC discrimination and feeling just like the other minority in a GC state then I will accept all that you say.
Viewpoint you ask for a tailored made "solution" on your "needs" of having 50% power and 29%+ of land while you are the 18%, and with disregard to our human rights of returning to our own homes and living in a democratic country without any discriminations. I hope you can understand that this can never happen.
The tailor made solution should include all our concerns as in yours and mine and not just mine so dont right off this approach totally as it is the only way forward to address our, yours and our concerns. If there is the trust then the percentages you quote will become irrelevent as all Cypriots will be able to live where ever they wish the borders being superficial and the property issue will be solved by return and compensation but we do not have the trust so that makes ever issue 100 times more difficult to solve. If GCs took concrete steps to build trust and win over the TCs I personally would support them 100% but I cannot see this happening with your current administration.
If you want a solution, stop trying to force on us the outrageous things that exist nowhere else in the world and you have no right for, and simply ask for your rights like we do. Then a solution will be very easy.
If you took the time to listen and absorb what we are saying and spent more time on genuinely trying formulate ways of solving issues rather than oppose all that we say as being outrageous demands then we might move closer to finding a solution.
