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[Maximus]

He is doing a great job at uniting Europe and making an enemy from any friend Turkey may have had.

[repulsewarrior]

It has been said a good few times.
Cyprus maintains excellent relations with every single one of its neighbors and the Middle East as a whole, Muslim or otherwise. We get along with everyone.

Save for one.
it's not a coincidence.

...a "like" button i would have pushed.

[repulsewarrior]

...Erdogan forgets that all those things come from hard work and from integrating into a system of social-exchange. Whether the parents have the intention to create "Turks" there is a high possibility that they will evolve, becoming Turks.

Universal Principals have an allure bigger than Dogma to those who have the Freedom to think for themselves.

[GreekIslandGirl]

... Universal Principals have an allure bigger than Dogma to those who have the Freedom to think for themselves.

But that's what Erdogan is trying to prevent. He's basically saying, you can take the Turk out of Turkey, but you can't take Turkey out of the Turk. Is it that with every Turk goes the barbarity that Turkey stands for, now and forever?

[repulsewarrior]

...the world is not made from Erdogan's thought, he can attempt to resist the change that comes naturally like his followers, but where people have the opportunity to think for themselves, they do.

Turkish or not,scheming such as his fails, when for example a Turk is not a Turk because they are not "Turkish" enough. Who is "pure" in Turkey, not the Alevi, not the Kurds, not the rest of the Christian population what's left of it, not Shia, not the Syrians who are becoming Turks through immigration either, only "Turks", the same "Turks" in Cyprus, the same, now, in Europe expressing discontent; natural for it to spread from Cyprus, to Turkey, and beyond that as well, what little resistance there is, (having allowed "them" to define "us" in this debate) and for what intention.

But Turks and "Turks" are not the same, such extremes, as "Turks", thrive on an exclusivity that they have defined for themselves. As a Dogma it is quite sufficient for those within its sphere without much reason to question its authority in any wider sphere. Erdogan does not find his support in the urban classes, his base is the rural mass which account for a good portion of Turkey's population; they are not the ones who normally travel either.

The fact that there is no opposition to speak of only heightens the threat from having his own political rallies in Europe. Erdogan is in opposition to Europe, it is Erdogan's Turkey he represents, it would be different if there was an opposition to Erdogan that he considers his equal, who themselves held rallies (or at least were capable of holding rallies) if they chose to.

[DrCyprus]

The whole situation is funny, mostly because Kurds have actively been outbreeding the Turks in Turkey for decades now.