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[miltiades]

" NEGATIVE EXPECTATIONS"
You omitted to say Following Brexit .

[Robin Hood]

Pyrpolizer:

Robin,

So far you have posted countless of links describing the speculators as senseless people that abide to nobody and have no moral restrictions towards their ultimate goal of making money out of money. The Bankers motto "give us control of the money creation and we don't care who's behind the law, or something similar to that effect, is still fresh in my mind.

Well, not exactly a motto by near enough to describe their mind-set and Rothschild was not the only one who made the observation!

"The government, which was designed for the people, has got into the hands of the bosses and their employers, the special interests. An invisible empire has been set up above the forms of democracy." - Woodrow Wilson an American politician and academic who served as the 28th President of the United States from 1913 to 1921.

Who were/are the ‘Special Interests’ ? The following quote also attributed to WW some time after he was forced to endorse the creation of the US FED, could explain that:

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

He made this comment apparently later in life and was referring to the meeting on Jekyll Island in 1910. attended by ALL the top bankers of the day, including Rothschild, that created the Federal Reserve. I would suggest he realized that putting the foxes in charge of the henhouse wasn't such a good idea after all.

Now you want us to believe that speculators/Bankers are politically driven by the EU commission to destroy the UK by driving the exchange rate of it's currency downwards. Don't you understand this is impossible, because a)speculators are an international group that doesn't depend neither controlled by politicians and b) even if the EU had managed to convince the big European Banks to speculate against the STG the Asian and American ones wouldn't have any reason to follow, resulting to a loss for the European speculators/Banks?

Most Western Governments are subservient to their Masters and their Masters are the US based International Banking system! This includes The Bank of International Settlement, The World Bank, The International Monetary Fund and you will note that The Troika also includes the ECB/EU Commission. So there is proof of a link? I will go with Wilsons observations on this subject and just look around at the power these Special Interests have and no need to look any further than present day USA !

For me it's very clear that the fall of STG is simply because of negative expectation.

Exactly ....... but whose expectations and what are they? IMO: Maybe a Federal Europe ? Causing a collapse of the UK economy would go a way to ensuring no other States take up this dangerous and inspirational step. That is why Cameron disappeared from the scene so quickly after the referendum ..... it was him opening his big mouth and allowing the people a voice of democratic self determination through a referendum, that triggered the Brexit? The result came as a very big shock to the 'Special Interests'

[Pyrpolizer]

Most Western Governments are subservient to their Masters and their Masters are the US based International Banking system! This includes The Bank of International Settlement, The World Bank, The International Monetary Fund and you will note that The Troika also includes the ECB/EU Commission. So there is proof of a link? I will go with Wilsons observations on this subject and just look around at the power these Special Interests have and no need to look any further than present day USA !

Well fine, I agree to that.However that's exactly the opposite of what you said before. You said the political entity of the EU is trying to harm/punish the UK for attempting to leave, using the International Banking system as a tool. However as you correctly said the Governments are actually servants (or tools) of the Banks not the other way round.

I have never heard of a tool ordering a mechanic to tighten a bolt. It's always the mechanic who gives the orders and the muscle power to the tool to do the job.
And in this case the mechanic (international Banking system) doesn't really care.

[Robin Hood]

Pyrpolizer:

However that's exactly the opposite of what you said before. .You (RH) said the political entity of the EU is trying to harm/punish the UK for attempting to leave, using the International Banking system as a tool.

You are correct, although in my defence ...... I see the two as synonymous with ‘government’ being the visible mouthpiece but the decisions, political or financial, being made by these ‘Special Interests’ who dominate both the banking and corporate sectors ..... as well as the military industrial complex. The Brexit is a threat to the banking system, as their threats to leave the City and take their dubious benefits to the economy with them, surely demonstrates.

What puzzles me and leads me to believe the fall of the GBP is a political action, is that whereas the UK banks are just making noises, several are apparently pulling out of Catalonia. So the threat to the banks and the Euro, by the actions in Catalonia are regarded by these banks as far more serious than the rather slow discussions on Brexit ...... and yet the GBP falls simply on a poor Conference speech by Teresa May. That takes some believing! IMO: That means the fall is engineered and not as the result of the UK’s speculated economic woes.

I have never heard of a tool ordering a mechanic to tighten a bolt. It's always the mechanic who gives the orders and the muscle power to the tool to do the job.

Neither have I heard of a nut and bolt unscrewing itself ......... because someone opened the tool box ! It requires a link ..... in the case of Brexit the link is the currency speculators. Without their input (speculative buying/selling) nothing would change in the short term. Hence, I blame speculators for the GBP’s fall in value ...... because Brexit was only the ‘.....opening the tool box’ it was the speculators that applied the spanner. It is a manufactured situation.